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greyhaze
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 | | 26 Mar 2009 01:54 PM | | Posted By Peter Lee on 03/26/2009 1:31 PM I'll be doing final touch ups to the summer '10 huge set art order soon, so that might be a good idea. (In another thread.)
So what are your 2010 hopeful huges?
Phew, this is tougher:
1. Tendriculous
2. Huge Giant Skeleton
3. Huge Giant Zombie
4. Huge 3.5 Style Green Dragon
5. Huge Blue Dragon
6. Hydra
7. Nalfeshnee
8. Huge Snake or Centipede
Runner ups for me:
1. Male Storm Giant (normal weapon)
2. Treant (with leaves)
3. Greater Stone Golem
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freedeath
Warrior

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Great White North
 | | 26 Mar 2009 02:11 PM | | 1) Black Pudding 2) Water Titan/Elemental (EDIT: added after N333's post. Good idea, that.) 3) Giant Space Hamster 4) Aspect of Asmodeus 5) Aspect of Orcus 6) Black Dragon WITHOUT Rider 7) Frost Giant/Titan WITHOUT Cheesy Ice Weapon (EDIT: apparently confirmed in Aug. set?) 8) Hydra | | Life's a bowl of cultists.... _______________________________ Champion of the Scale-Creep Resistance and the Invisible Cylinder. Joke Champion of the Fiendish Dire Vampiric Were-Butthatch of Ill Repute.
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Temperance
Sergeant

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 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:17 PM | | This is an extremely tough problem. I have a great set of 8 huges for Legendary Evils; I'm really looking forward to that set. Next years hasn't quite gelled for me as well as the first one.
I'm especially looking for monster examples for late heroic/early paragon tier.
One I'm currently on the fence is the Winterclaw Owlbear (mostly because I *really* want to do an owlbear that looks like a friggin' owlbear...) but I don't want it to turn out like the huge carrion crawler, so it's currently on my chopping block.
One problem is all the rares will ultimately get compared with Dragons. I have an assumption that every consumer for this product will want to buy 1 dragon. (There will be some that buy 2, and those that buy 0 -- I'm not really sure they're playing Dungeons and DRAGONS anymore... ;) ) Therefore, a miniature needs to be either a solo creature as popular as a dragon -- the huge Beholder may count as that -- or one that half the audience wants two copies, like the titans. (I hope!) I think demons are strong, I like the Balor, Goristro, and Nalfeshnee; maybe the Bebilith, but the Huge Fiendish Spider caused me to delay on that one.
I don't think the Tendriculous or the Black Pudding are particularly strong choices for visible huge figures. While some of you might like one, it's not something the majority of consumers want.  Do you want to buy a dragon or something that looks like a melted pile of black plastic? | | D&D Miniatures Lead Designer R&D, Wizards of the Coast | |
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freedeath
Warrior

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Great White North
 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:37 PM | | Posted By Peter Lee on 03/26/2009 3:17 PM Do you want to buy a dragon or something that looks like a melted pile of black plastic? The second choice. There are already tons of Dragon sculpts, but no melted piles of black plastic; if it's a visible (ie. uncommon), it can be avoided, and it doesn't take up a rare slot. I suspect there are might be more fans of 'dungeon desserts' that you think... Besides, every mini doesn't have to be what the majority wants, does it? Some monsters would never get made, and it seems some of the ones that have been made already aren't what the majority wanted. Everyone has their 'pet' monsters. Now, where's the Blink Dogs at? Another 2 cents brought to you courtesy of freedeath; let the rebuttals begin...  | | Life's a bowl of cultists.... _______________________________ Champion of the Scale-Creep Resistance and the Invisible Cylinder. Joke Champion of the Fiendish Dire Vampiric Were-Butthatch of Ill Repute.
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Avin
Sneak

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 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:45 PM | | - Gray Lynnorm - Dread Linnorm (colossal) - Corpse Tearer (gargantuan)
Oh hell, if I got these three I need nothing else :)
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Nyarlathotep333
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Alaska
 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:49 PM | | I'd buy a Black Pudding, but most likely only 1. - - Water Titan (we've got huge "elemental" types for fire, earth, and air already)
- - Whatever Huge Chromatic Dragons that still need done (black, green, blue)
- - Bebilith
- - Kraken (since we likely won't see an icon of this)
- - Treant (with leaves please!)
- - Athach
- - Glabrezu
- - nalfeshnee
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Avin
Sneak

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 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:52 PM | | Peter, there's 3.0 MMII Bronze Serpent. That would fin an uncommon and could be used for things like a normal serpent, a golem serpent, etc.
Maybe a Huge crystal golem. | | | |
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Temperance
Sergeant

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 | | 26 Mar 2009 03:58 PM | | Don't think uncommon huge. The visible huges can kick ass -- they should be figures you previously saw as rare. | | D&D Miniatures Lead Designer R&D, Wizards of the Coast | |
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freedeath
Warrior

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Great White North
 | | 26 Mar 2009 04:07 PM | | Posted By Peter Lee on 03/26/2009 3:58 PM Don't think uncommon huge. The visible huges can kick ass -- they should be figures you previously saw as rare. I didn't realize 'ass kicking' was related to rarity (LOL). I'll still call them UC's until I see the rarity symbol once the set is released; after all, the visibles coming in May are listed as UC. | | Life's a bowl of cultists.... _______________________________ Champion of the Scale-Creep Resistance and the Invisible Cylinder. Joke Champion of the Fiendish Dire Vampiric Were-Butthatch of Ill Repute.
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Temperance
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 | | 26 Mar 2009 04:13 PM | | They'll be listed with uncommon symbols (as there will be more of them made than the rares in the set) but expect things with the complexity of dragons and beholders, not nightwalkers and armored guulvorgs. | | D&D Miniatures Lead Designer R&D, Wizards of the Coast | |
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freedeath
Warrior

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Great White North
 | | 26 Mar 2009 04:19 PM | | Black Puddings can be complex... | | Life's a bowl of cultists.... _______________________________ Champion of the Scale-Creep Resistance and the Invisible Cylinder. Joke Champion of the Fiendish Dire Vampiric Were-Butthatch of Ill Repute.
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Avin
Sneak

157 Posts




 | | 26 Mar 2009 04:20 PM | | Posted By Peter Lee on 03/26/2009 4:13 PM They'll be listed with uncommon symbols (as there will be more of them made than the rares in the set) but expect things with the complexity of dragons and beholders, not nightwalkers and armored guulvorgs.
Now we are talking!
Do you have any limitation, such as "must be on a 4E product before miniature is produced" or you can produce and later 4E stats are done?
Unfortunately Wotc can't use another products but consider taking a lot at 3.0 Creature Collection I and II for some inspiration...
I posted on Enworld for more suggestions/ideas...
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/253241-suggestions-10-huge-miniature-set.html#post4728989 | | | |
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Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord

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Lortab Land
 | | 26 Mar 2009 04:30 PM | | Actually, I'd like to get several sizes of Black Pudding, and I'd like to see more Ooze/Slime/Jelly minis in general. | | Posted By Wraithborne on 04/27/2008 7:54 PM Yup, I'm a regular blasphemator of the English Lanuage. | |
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bshugg
Underboss

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 | | 26 Mar 2009 07:19 PM | | Would these be the only huges in the set or would there be hidden ones as well?
Assuming these are basically the rares, then I would avoid stuff like black pudding and tendriculosis or whatever. I want them as minis but not as my only picks and they would hurt sales by sitting on the shelf while dragons get snatched up. Boosters that sit means cases don't get ordered.
My 8. 1. Huge Blue maybe runecarved or something to make him special 2. Huge Green 3. Beholder Hive mother 4. Frost Titan 5. Balor 6. huge sized Giant Skeleton - Looking closer to a Death knight then a stripped down skelly, damaged full plate, bad ass sword, etc 7. Drow Spell Sword riding Huge Spider - Give him a sword though and light armor so he can work as a mage or fighter type. 8. Dragonborn riding a rage drake like lizard mount | | Looking for someone to cosponser a midwest DDM event. let me know if your interested! Check out my brand new blog: http://bshugg.blogspot.com | |
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord

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West Valley City, Utah
 | | 26 Mar 2009 07:49 PM | | I want a black pudding. I would get a couple.
I would want the Huge Green Dragon to be 3.5 style
I like the idea of a huge water elemental. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord

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West Valley City, Utah
 | | 26 Mar 2009 07:56 PM | | I also think a huge skeleton is a good idea. I have no interest whatsoever in huge demon/devil types. If there were one, no biggie, but several would be a turn off for the set.
No mounted minis, please.
A huge kraken would be cool, even if a gargantuan is the right size, unless there are plans for a garg kraken.
A huge blue dragon would be great. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord

10590 Posts




 | | 26 Mar 2009 07:58 PM | | Huge Water Titan/Elemental I would be down with. I agree with the Kraken, if it can't be made Gargantuan, a Huge like the Purple Worm would be cool. Can't the Puddings be made up of medium sized creatures like swarms and Ochre Jellies?
Just a note, everything on my list I would buy more than 1 of... I would only buy 1 Huge Beholder though.
So, there will only be 8 Huges, and they will ALL be visible? | | Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. "I sense a disturbance in the zing, as though one or two voices were joking around, but then were suddenly silenced." | |
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Maou Mint
Skirmisher

22 Posts




 | | 26 Mar 2009 08:41 PM | | Lessee...top 8 Huges...That aren't dragons...And what the hey, I'll list quantity I'd want afterwards:
Late Paragon - Epic: 1. Chuul Juggernaut - 2-3 2. Godforged Colossus 1-2 3. Goristro 2-3 4. Soulspike Devourer 2-3 5. Gibbering Orb 1 6. Discord Incarnate 1 7. Pit of the Abandoned Regiment 1-2 8. Bone Collector 2
Late Heroic - Mid Paragon: 1. Frost Worm 2-3 2. Thrym Hound (with 2 extra heads...yeah, I'm not subtle...) 2 3. Yrthack 2 4. Spider Eater 2-4 5. Greater Spawn of Juiblex 2-3 6. Nightwing 1-2 7. Mordent Hydra 2 8. Madcrafter of Thoon 2-3
...And just cus...
Huge Dragons: (1-2 of any of these) 1. Deep 2. Brown 3. Green (3.x or earlier appearance, I know it probably won't happen but I feel I should put my voice in, failing that a Huge silver I can repaint Green.) 4. Blue 5. Black 6. Shadow 7. Elder Deathmask Dragon 8. Elder Dragon Eel
There's my votes for now till I can remember more huges...
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Dordledum
Commander

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Netherlands
 | | 27 Mar 2009 01:25 AM | | I'm confused why we're discussing the 2010 huge set, as there is a 2009 huge set coming up first (Dungeon Lords), but what the heck:
2009 - Dungeon Lords:
1. Remorhaaz (confirmed) - yay, I want at least 2! 2. Beholder Hive Mother (confirmed) - good call, really want one! 3. Frost Titan (confirmed) - I think I do want 2, depends on the sculpt, I can imagine a couple of BBEG to go with my Frost Giant army. 4. Elder Black Dragon - no rider, I want 2! 5. Elder Silver Dragon - I want one, Aspect of Bahamut just won't do as a proxy. 6. Huge Skeleton - something else than a Dragon and I'll take it. 7. Chuul Juggernaut (great idea Maou) - would be a nice proxy for a Kraken as well. 8. Water Elemental/Titan - Simply make a huge version of the Bloodwar water elemental and we're fine
2010:
1. Balor - I'd like a huge balor! 2. Elder Blue Dragon - a live one would be nice 3. Elder Green Dragon - but no corny nose spike!!! 4. Treant with leaves - I'd want 4! 5. Black Pudding - I'll gladly take 3 lumps of molten black plastic. 6. Huge Hydra - because it's cool, 1 please 7. Huge Zombie giant - A Formorian Zombie perhaps? I'd take a couple. 8. Some Huge Giant comparable to the GoL Storm Giant in type and quality - too bad actual Storm Giants have shrunken (sp?).
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Avin
Sneak

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 | | 27 Mar 2009 04:31 AM | | "1. Balor - I'd like a huge balor!"
Same here.
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alepulp
Underboss

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Manchester, England
 | | 27 Mar 2009 05:16 AM | | I'd like some more dragons: 1) Huge Green Dragon 2) Huge Black Dragon 3) Huge Silver Dragon 4) Imix - Elemental Prince of Fire 5) Elemental Prince of Water 6) Elemental Prince of Wind 7) Elemental Prince of Earth 8) Huge Aboleth | | One of these days WoTC will update their tournament page when I'm in the top 5... they never seem to do when I'm in that bracket :( My Collection My DDM Website And My Trade Refs Be a part of the UK DDM Forum
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord

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West Valley City, Utah
 | | 27 Mar 2009 07:31 AM | | Posted By Dordledum on 03/27/2009 1:25 AM I'm confused why we're discussing the 2010 huge set, as there is a 2009 huge set coming up first (Dungeon Lords), but what the heck:
That would be because the 2009 set is already being made (the decisions of what is in it have already been made). He's looking for feedback/suggestions that can alter the next huge set he will be putting a list together for. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss

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Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 27 Mar 2009 03:32 PM | | Mine
1. Nalfeshnee (Rare) 2. Remorhaz 3. Bebilith (Rare) 4. Athach 5. Water Elemental 6. Retriever (Rare) 7. Deepspawn (Rare) 8. Black Pudding (Rare) | | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Vindicated Lords of Madness Called Shot: Elder Blue Dragon
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frankthedm
Skirmisher

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 | | 27 Mar 2009 10:49 PM | | Posted by Temperence Do you want to buy a dragon or something that looks like a melted pile of black plastic? _________________________________________________________________
Melted black wax works MUCH better than plastic. -_0
Melt black wax over a wire frame and maybe use Cleargloss-spraypaint to seal.
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yack
Commander

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Gatineau Canada
 | | 28 Mar 2009 06:03 AM | | 1. Tendriculous (I need more then anything) 2. Huge Giant Skeleton 3. Huge Fog Giant 4. Huge 3.5 Style Green Dragon 5. Huge Blue Dragon 6. Phaerimm 7. Nalfeshnee 8. Huge Eagle (young roc) | | | "Wtf is Heroscape? I play D&D." ScruffyRanger
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berus316
Sergeant

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Markham, Ontario Canada
 | | 28 Mar 2009 07:47 AM | | 1) Aspect of Gruumsh - need of mine since day 1 (a whole campaign waiting on it) 2) Balor - could be really awesome, the best Holy #^%# monster out there 3) Aspect of Asmodeus - lots to work with here 4) Huge Giant Skeleton - Absolute Must need 3-5 5) Huge Giant Zombie - Absolute Must need 3-5 6) Athach - been missing 7) Tendriculous - could be done really well and I would definitely want 1 8) Bebilith - missing for quite a while, easy to proxy but well I'd like 2 anyways
Others I agree we could use Treant with Leaves (I'd buy 3) Nalfeshnee Greater Stone Golem Death Knight on Undead Dragon - might be really cool Elder Blue Dragon | | Champion of the Aspect of Gruumsh Nemesis of Warforged, Tielfings, Dragonborn and of course Gnomes References http://maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12304 H/W List http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=berus316 | |
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord

10590 Posts




 | | 28 Mar 2009 09:05 AM | | | | Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. "I sense a disturbance in the zing, as though one or two voices were joking around, but then were suddenly silenced." | |
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frankthedm
Skirmisher

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 | | 28 Mar 2009 09:37 AM | | Posted By greyhaze on 03/28/2009 9:05 AM Lemme help ya out there.
I don't mind those pics being at full size, but they were meant just to be URL links to not be cruel to those with dial up. Also they make reading posts difficult since the big one makkes the whole web page wider. Keep them up if you like, but I would have gone with hotlinked thumbnails, but they were not showing up properly in post preview for me. | | | |
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord

10590 Posts




 | | 28 Mar 2009 10:54 AM | | Posted By frankthedm on 03/28/2009 9:37 AM I don't mind those pics being at full size, but they were meant just to be URL Ah, fixed. | | Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. "I sense a disturbance in the zing, as though one or two voices were joking around, but then were suddenly silenced." | |
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Almacov
Sneak

78 Posts




Canada
 | | 28 Mar 2009 05:25 PM | | -Cindergrove Spirit [Open Grave] (Could double as a really awesome looking fire elemental {complete with black, charred skeletons within}, would make good use of transparent plastic while allowing for a relatively simple paint job.) -Kyuss [Open Grave] (Yep, it's listed as a huge creature, and I can definitely imagine that anthropomorphic mound of worms being an autobuy for many people. Assuming, of course, a suitably awesome sculpt could be produced.) -Ancient Gray Dragon [Draconomicon I] (This would be an opportunity to pump a lot of sculpt detail into a very impressive looking dragon, while fleshing out the array of minis suitable for the varieties introduced in Draconomicon I. For all you 3.5ers, it would be a huge fang dragon.) -Huge Trebuchet (Siege weapons sound very, very appealing, and if you already have plans for this one... well, may as well test the waters.) -Balor (Could indeed make for one impressive demon, and I imagine one of the Epic-Tier adventures might feature one. {Given recent focus on creatures like... Orcus.}) -Chuul Juggernaut -Winterclaw Owlbear (I do dig Owlbears... plus, it feels like I may be running more wilderness adventures now that the Primal classes have been released. Just make sure the sculpt is up to par or yes, it will be another huge carrion crawler...) -Brass Dragon (To let people play with their new toys from Draconomicon II, continue to provide dragon sculpts for the 3.5 players, and produce my favourite metallic. =) )
As for late heroic huges, the Zombie Throng in Open Grave would be interesting indeed... =) | | | |
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