No intent to CRUSH you here -Lance- but here it is anyways.

1) We agreed to a trade...small compared to some of these others. You did not send and I wisely waited for your end because of your few references. I also haven't seen anything in the mail and in our email every response you sent involved asking me if I sent....suspicious.

2) I have shipped 177 packages with the USPS now (95% without DC) and have only ever had ONE that got smashed wherein I had to replace a card. I have NEVER had one lost and even if it did happen it wouldn't be multiple packages in a one week period. Guaranteed.

3) I will personally send you the CASH or an equivalent amount of SWM or DDM to reimburse you if you just send back their packages...you know which ones you haven't sent.

If -Lance- agrees to the last bit I will personally email you all and upon your return of your original trade I will then reimburse Lance for his shipping costs....USPS first class mail..I know the rates and weights or will get the weights from each trader seperately.

Good Day to all and I hope this situation comes to a satisfactory end for everyone.
John McClendon (Gaddszooks)

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Originally posted by Gaddszooks

No intent to CRUSH you here -Lance- but here it is anyways.

1) We agreed to a trade...small compared to some of these others. You did not send and I wisely waited for your end because of your few references. I also haven't seen anything in the mail and in our email every response you sent involved asking me if I sent....suspicious.

2) I have shipped 177 packages with the USPS now (95% without DC) and have only ever had ONE that got smashed wherein I had to replace a card. I have NEVER had one lost and even if it did happen it wouldn't be multiple packages in a one week period. Guaranteed.

3) I will personally send you the CASH or an equivalent amount of SWM or DDM to reimburse you if you just send back their packages...you know which ones you haven't sent.

If -Lance- agrees to the last bit I will personally email you all and upon your return of your original trade I will then reimburse Lance for his shipping costs....USPS first class mail..I know the rates and weights or will get the weights from each trader seperately.

Good Day to all and I hope this situation comes to a satisfactory end for everyone.
John McClendon (Gaddszooks)

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Good job making me look like a dick, then admitting to never sending out your half of the trade. (hypocritical of a guy accusing me of being a scammer?) I hope it arrives and you feel like an asshole for what you just posted. It's obvious I can do nothing further here. I've tried to remain calm, I've tried to keep posting here and I've tried to resolve the issue, all I get in return is people accusing me at every turn. As I said before, I sent everyones minis, at this point the only obligation I have is to send Kithmakers minis upon recieval of his package which I have every intention of doing just like I did everyone elses. Goodbye, I won't be coming back.

-Lance

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Originally posted by -Lance-
Goodbye, I won't be coming back.

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I hope that's not true, as there's many trades that are unfinished at the moment. If you really have done everything right, you should have more comprehension for people's attitude as you have initially caused it by not communicating, not sending at the same time they do and not telling that you are not sending right away.

I'd still like to hear some dates of sending so I knew a little about when to wait for the packet. I've done some 65 online trades and ordered stuff from stores 5 times, and no packet to either direction has ever lost, so I trust post offices generally are quite reliable. If something bigger happens to a shipment of mail, I believe post office is required to inform from such if asked.

Gaddszooks, while waiting to receive the other's end might seem sometimes wise, I generally discourage that kind of method. If you really have done that many trades here (the link to your references is not up-to-date after site cleanup), you have every right to ask other with only a few references to send first. If two people wait for other's packet to arrive before sending, they might both end up accusing other from scamming.

Removed by poster per my agreement with -Lance-. Received returned minis today (4/23).

Well, I'll keep waiting for my minis before I think of anything else. But I'm moving in near future and I mentioned that in my mail where we agreed about the trade, so I expect the minis to have been sent quickly. Am I correct with this, -Lance-?

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Originally posted by -Lance-

[quote]Originally posted by Gaddszooks



Goodbye, I won't be coming back.

-Lance

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Lance- You don't know who in the gaming industry is on these lists- who you are not dealing fairly with. Some of us are Publishers, Store owners, Writers and Artists. Don't break faith with the very folks who bring you the hobby you obviously enjoy. Trade within your means- fewer trades, so that you can afford proper shipping (with DC). You got receipts for everything the post office accepted from you- what are your receipt numbers- to which addresses?

Below is my piece of this problem. You can see I specified when we would ship and what method we would use to ship- you agreed! I held up my end and you apparently didn't and then you ignored my emails.

Karma has a way of coming around.

Here is the email clip showing my DC info and the actual trade agreement.

from my email to you within the last 24 hours:
Lance:
I tracked your package today. Here are the results from USPS.com.
Current Status
You entered 0304 1560 0006 2078 8699
Your item was delivered at 10:07 am on April 14, 2005 in NEVADA, MO 64772.
Glad to see that package arrived. Please send me the Confirmation number of the package your are sending me. Thanks!

William aka dm5 (address below in attached emails)

Lance Wilson wrote:
Lance Wilson
Route 4 Box 344
Nevada, Missouri
64772

On Apr 9, 2005 9:15 PM, lohmoderator wrote:
> Please send mine on Monday 4/11 to:
>

>
> I'll mail yours the same day. Your address, please?
>
> William
>
>
>
> Lance Wilson wrote:
> That sounds fine.
>
> -Lance
>
> On Apr 9, 2005 2:02 PM, lohmoderator wrote:
> > You're like me with Mountain Orcs (I've got 30). Yeah Skeletons... Wanna
> > part with, say 5 to close the deal?
> >
> > At that we would swap:
> > 1x Frenzied Berserker (R)
> > 1x Half-Elf Bow Initiate (R)
> > 1x Qui Gon (VR)
> > for:
> > 1x Timber Wolf (C)
> > 1x Cursed Spirit (C)
> > 1x Ghast (C)
> > 1x Zombie (C)
> > 5x Skeletons (c)
> > 1x Large Blue Dragon (R)
> > 1x Erinyes (R)
> >
> > I use Priority Mail with Confirmation (shipped in a box with padding). I
> > would ask you to do the same. I'm in the USA (SC); you?
> >
> > William

Lance, if you don`t have the minis I needed, or the $$ to send them,
email me. I have a UPS account, just box the ones I sent you back
up and UPS will pick them up.
Thanks
Adam

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Originally posted by dm5
You may feel great, having a fine collection of minis at your disposal. Karma has a way of coming around, though. If I never get

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I'm not willing to throw blames anywhere yet. But, thinking of your words generally, I don't believe that anyone who has cheated minis can enjoy of them fully, being more or less remotely conscious of how he's acquired them. Someone putting a brickwall around these feelings will be blocking other feelings too and will soon not have anything to truly enjoy about.

Everyday this situation becomes more and more demoralizing for me, I said I wouldn't post again, but feel forced to after the flurry of comments I've seen. Most of you here have stated something to the effect of "I would be happy if you'd just send me back my minis"

What you don't understand is, I've already sent a good portion of my collection (70-80%) to trade for what I recieved, were I to do this...I would have almost nothing. It's ridiculous expecting me to shoulder 100% of the burden of loss.

I talked to a good friend of mine who plays and he made the following suggestion after an hour or so of heated conversation over what is or isn't fair. He said, "What if you just take the rare minis you aren't using that you recieved in trades (quite a few) + others and send them in one box to one highly trust worthy member of the forum, preferrably someone not involved in the trades and let them split them up from there?" He even offered to give back all of the minis I gave him for his b-day so I could make this right. Obviously I would ship insured and DC on this as to prevent ANY mix up at all.

I wasn't sure if something like this would seem appeasing to any of you, but it seem fair to me and it's the best I can do. It includes a large amount of DK, seeing as I got a case not too long ago and need to get rid of extras anyway. Here's a list of what I could send:

1x Thaskor
2x Aspect of Nerull
1x Ambush Drake
1x Green Dragon
1x Gauth
1x Yuan Ti Abomination
1x Manticore
2x LBD
1x Achaireai
1x Boneclaw
1x Fiendish Giant Praying Mantis
1x Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion
1x Red Wyrmling
1x DCoL
1x Mindflayer
1x Black Dragon
1x Lich Necromancer
2x Ogre
1x Troll
1x Large Monstrous Spider
1x Frenzied Berserker
1x HEBI
1x Minotaur (HAR)
1x Unicorn
2x Forest Troll
1x Probe Droid
1x Luke, Jedi Knight
2x Anakin VR from CS
1x Qui-Gon (not the broken one)
1x Agen Kolar Jedi Master
1x Tion Medon
1x Bail Organa

+ $20 and maybe some other minis

They all have their corresponding stat cards and are all unbagged but in mint condition. Let me know if this seems appeasable to you. It's everything I can spare and all the cash I have left except what I would use to send.

-Lance

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I've sent 2 large batches, one several weeks ago and on more recently. A few people's minis were shipped individually, but all basically within a 2-3 week period.

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All of you minis have been sent, none with DC...it's a little hard to afford that when you're sending out massive amounts of minis. (I know I promised some of you I would, but I basically arrived at the post office with a box full of minis and mailed everything at once.

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She saw me haul all of the minis to the post office and come out with nothing when she gave me a ride there.

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just gave her my boxes, they already had stamps on them and she said "thanks" and I left...

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I just slapped a ton of stamps on them that my mom gave me (she owns her own business and ships all the time, so I'm pretty sure she knows how much to put on) either way I asked if I had enough postage and she looked at them and said everything looked fine.

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I slapped a ton on, in fact the Postal Worker who examined them said too much, so rest assured they had enough postage.

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I have no stake in this matter. I don't trade minis unless it's in person. But in reading this thread, your threat of legal action and the basis thereof piqued my interest. In looknig back over your prior statements, I can't help but be skeptical on the basis of how the stories dno't seem to hold together well.

My daughter had a problem with lying. She's 10 and I think it's a normal thing for kids to go through. In fact, I think it's a problem they'll visit and revisit over the course of their lives. I'll say now what I said to her then- There comes a point where the best course of action is simply to fess up and vow to make things better. People are much more understanding when you come clean and make an effort to make things right. Offers have been made to that effect already, and very generous offers at that. I'm not saying this applies to you; You may honestly have brought your big box of minis, then boxed them at the post office, then had your mother slap the right amount of stamps on them, then had the postal worker say nothing but thanks... Oh, nevermind, then had the postal worker say you put on too many (even though your mother knows better). That may all somehow be true. But if it's not, I'd own up to it now and take one of the graceful exits proposed by some of the other posters.

That's my unwanted 2p on the matter.

So Lance, in other words you are saying you didn't send me the Medium Gold Dragon you said you did.


Thanks.

I don't know what to say about this one. Largest misappropriation of packages in USPS history if we're to believe. Being the biggest(value) trade I've made to date, I had the minis FedExed overnight and was eagerly awaiting the return package. I would gladly cover any cost to see my minis (Drow Cleric of Lolth x 2, Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion, Minotaur(Harbinger) returned. I would be even more glad to see the others arrive, of this I am very skeptical. Though it seemed email traffic worked fantastically in setting up these multitude of trades after which it failed with no indication of sending and it's date, no notice of package arrival, plain ignorance of the processes and practice.

Well it seems e-mail is still a little jerky with lance. I sent him an e-mail earlier today and haven’t gotten anything back. I was tryin not to be to ruff and add to the already massive amounts of posts concerning him. I am concerned however of what he is offering. He says that he mailed everything so I am assuming that since mine is not in the "make up" list then mine must be on its way. See, I sent him a Beholder, new in the pack. Packed in styrofoam peanuts. And in return I am waiting on a Warpriest, centaur hero, and a fiendish praying mantis. Ultimately if I don’t get those pieces I would rather have my beholder back. Just like I sent it. I'm not really interested in the others. If you could let me know if mine made it out the door, that would be great man.

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Originally posted by Reflex1

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I've sent 2 large batches, one several weeks ago and on more recently. A few people's minis were shipped individually, but all basically within a 2-3 week period.

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All of you minis have been sent, none with DC...it's a little hard to afford that when you're sending out massive amounts of minis. (I know I promised some of you I would, but I basically arrived at the post office with a box full of minis and mailed everything at once.

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She saw me haul all of the minis to the post office and come out with nothing when she gave me a ride there.

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just gave her my boxes, they already had stamps on them and she said "thanks" and I left...

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I just slapped a ton of stamps on them that my mom gave me (she owns her own business and ships all the time, so I'm pretty sure she knows how much to put on) either way I asked if I had enough postage and she looked at them and said everything looked fine.

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I slapped a ton on, in fact the Postal Worker who examined them said too much, so rest assured they had enough postage.

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I have no stake in this matter. I don't trade minis unless it's in person. But in reading this thread, your threat of legal action and the basis thereof piqued my interest. In looknig back over your prior statements, I can't help but be skeptical on the basis of how the stories dno't seem to hold together well.

My daughter had a problem with lying. She's 10 and I think it's a normal thing for kids to go through. In fact, I think it's a problem they'll visit and revisit over the course of their lives. I'll say now what I said to her then- There comes a point where the best course of action is simply to fess up and vow to make things better. People are much more understanding when you come clean and make an effort to make things right. Offers have been made to that effect already, and very generous offers at that. I'm not saying this applies to you; You may honestly have brought your big box of minis, then boxed them at the post office, then had your mother slap the right amount of stamps on them, then had the postal worker say nothing but thanks... Oh, nevermind, then had the postal worker say you put on too many (even though your mother knows better). That may all somehow be true. But if it's not, I'd own up to it now and take one of the graceful exits proposed by some of the other posters.

That's my unwanted 2p on the matter.

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I'm not even bothering to respond to this except to say you are full of shit and I'm trying to make this right. It's not your business, I never had dealings with you, please quite pestering me and allow me to make this right. Simple enough for you?

-Lance

sorry i was logged on with my boys account....this is really brothernoah and my message is...

Well it seems e-mail is still a little jerky with lance. I sent him an e-mail earlier today and haven’t gotten anything back. I was tryin not to be to ruff and add to the already massive amounts of posts concerning him. I am concerned however of what he is offering. He says that he mailed everything so I am assuming that since mine is not in the "make up" list then mine must be on its way. See, I sent him a Beholder, new in the pack. Packed in styrofoam peanuts. And in return I am waiting on a Warpriest, centaur hero, and a fiendish praying mantis. Ultimately if I don’t get those pieces I would rather have my beholder back. Just like I sent it. I'm not really interested in the others. If you could let me know if mine made it out the door, that would be great man.

quote:

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Originally posted by -Lance-

Everyday this situation becomes more and more demoralizing for me, I said I wouldn't post again, but feel forced to after the flurry of comments I've seen. Most of you here have stated something to the effect of "I would be happy if you'd just send me back my minis"

What you don't understand is, I've already sent a good portion of my collection (70-80%) to trade for what I recieved, were I to do this...I would have almost nothing. It's ridiculous expecting me to shoulder 100% of the burden of loss.

I talked to a good friend of mine who plays and he made the following suggestion after an hour or so of heated conversation over what is or isn't fair. He said, "What if you just take the rare minis you aren't using that you recieved in trades (quite a few) + others and send them in one box to one highly trust worthy member of the forum, preferrably someone not involved in the trades and let them split them up from there?" He even offered to give back all of the minis I gave him for his b-day so I could make this right. Obviously I would ship insured and DC on this as to prevent ANY mix up at all.

I wasn't sure if something like this would seem appeasing to any of you, but it seem fair to me and it's the best I can do. It includes a large amount of DK, seeing as I got a case not too long ago and need to get rid of extras anyway. Here's a list of what I could send:

1x Thaskor
2x Aspect of Nerull
1x Ambush Drake
1x Green Dragon
1x Gauth
1x Yuan Ti Abomination
1x Manticore
2x LBD
1x Achaireai
1x Boneclaw
1x Fiendish Giant Praying Mantis
1x Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion
1x Red Wyrmling
1x DCoL
1x Mindflayer
1x Black Dragon
1x Lich Necromancer
2x Ogre
1x Troll
1x Large Monstrous Spider
1x Frenzied Berserker
1x HEBI
1x Minotaur (HAR)
1x Unicorn
2x Forest Troll
1x Probe Droid
1x Luke, Jedi Knight
2x Anakin VR from CS
1x Qui-Gon (not the broken one)
1x Agen Kolar Jedi Master
1x Tion Medon
1x Bail Organa

+ $20 and maybe some other minis

They all have their corresponding stat cards and are all unbagged but in mint condition. Let me know if this seems appeasable to you. It's everything I can spare and all the cash I have left except what I would use to send.

-Lance

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Is no one at all interested in this offer to make things right? Is there a way the offer could be made better? The faster those I've had dealings with let me know, the sooner I can ship these out with DC and insured to a trust worthy maxminis member to be distributed to those who haven't recieved their side of the trade.

-Lance

Ummm....So does that mean you sent mine or do I have pick from the list. Cause id rather just have my beholder back.

It means I did send yours Noah and that they didn't arrive...what I plan on doing is sending that entire lot (I plan on adding some more minis to it here in awhile to make it more fair for those who did not recieve) to a respectable and trust worthy member of maxminis to distribute among those who did not receive their minis. It's all I can spare and at this point it's impossible to send back several individuals minis as I have made trades with fellow players involving them.

I don't know how many traders are on this list of people that have yet to see their minis and I don't know how long they have waited to get their minis. I completed a trade with you on April 3rd and mailed on April 6 with delivery confirmation. My end of the deal was: Troll, Mind Flayer, Black Dragon, Large Monstrous Spider, Gauth, Lich Necromancer, Lord Soth, and Ambush Drake.

I see all of those figures except the Lord Soth on your list. I am willing to give it a little more time to see if your end of the trade arrives, but if you are sincere, I think it would be good to compile a list of your outstanding trades and see if we could come up with something equitable.

If your account of the situation is accurate, then you should be commended for your efforts to make things right. If you follow through with this plan, then I would be inclinded to give you the benefit of the doubt. If this plan is implemented, I will keep a record of our trade in the event that your end of the trade arrives at my house, so that I can contact you to rectify the situation.

[quote]Originally posted by -Lance-

I talked to a good friend of mine who plays and he made the following suggestion after an hour or so of heated conversation over what is or isn't fair. He said, "What if you just take the rare minis you aren't using that you recieved in trades (quite a few) + others and send them in one box to one highly trust worthy member of the forum, preferrably someone not involved in the trades and let them split them up from there?" He even offered to give back all of the minis I gave him for his b-day so I could make this right. Obviously I would ship insured and DC on this as to prevent ANY mix up at all.-[/i]

Which trustworthy member has agreed to broker this deal?

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Originally posted by dm5



[quote]Originally posted by -Lance-

I talked to a good friend of mine who plays and he made the following suggestion after an hour or so of heated conversation over what is or isn't fair. He said, "What if you just take the rare minis you aren't using that you recieved in trades (quite a few) + others and send them in one box to one highly trust worthy member of the forum, preferrably someone not involved in the trades and let them split them up from there?" He even offered to give back all of the minis I gave him for his b-day so I could make this right. Obviously I would ship insured and DC on this as to prevent ANY mix up at all.-[/i]

Which trustworthy member has agreed to broker this deal?

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I have yet to find one...but I haven't really been looking. I'm looking for someone everyone trusts and the second I ship I will post the DC...it will also be insured...I updated the list on another thread...I really want to make this right so badly.

-Lance

Removed per my agreement with -Lance-.

Lance -- I just want to make sure that, once you receive the package and get ready to send mine out that you:
1) send it Air Mail (-not- Surface), since I'm over in Korea and surface takes FOREVER;
2) insure it (since you won't be able to get Delivery Confirmation to my address).

Looking forward to completing our trade.

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Originally posted by Kithmaker

Lance -- I just want to make sure that, once you receive the package and get ready to send mine out that you:
1) send it Air Mail (-not- Surface), since I'm over in Korea and surface takes FOREVER;
2) insure it (since you won't be able to get Delivery Confirmation to my address).

Looking forward to completing our trade.

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I emailed you regarding our trade.

-Lance

WTF

Do you own a Beholder. Well you should have mine, it arrived at your house on 4/11/05. Thats the one I sent and thats the one I want back if im not getting the ones we agreed on. A "few" good ones arent ones that I want nor do I need.

Noah

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Wilson"
To: "Noah"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: beholder trade


Well I guess it is that or nothing eh?

Take it or leave it...I'm giving people the opportunity to get some
minis (several of them very nice) to make this right. If that's not
good enough, then nothing will be.

***************

On 4/17/05, Noah wrote:
> uhhh.....id rather just have my beholder or the ones we agreed on. I'm the one thats out here bro. And no one is really buying the whole mail thing and to keep harping on that is really just gonna dig you a bigger whole. Especially if the USPS gets involved. Im not trying to be a dick my man, id rather just erase this whole ordeal from my brain, get my beholder back and trade it to my boy for the same as we were trading. Make it happen bro.
>
> Noah
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lance Wilson"
> To: "Noah"
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:50 PM
> Subject: Re: beholder trade
>
> Noah, Your pieces were sent out. (Wether the arrive is doubtful seeing
> the current trend) What I'm trying to do is, send everything I can
> spare + some cash to a respectable and trust worthy member of
> maxminis. From there it can be split up among those who did not
> recieve their packages due to the USPS error. (Such as you) And mailed out using the cash that was included. As I said earlier it's
unrealistic and unfair to expect me to send back everything I traded
for...then what happens is I'm not only losing everything I traded for them BUT What I got in return. It's a lose lose for me...I end up with basically no collection at all. Can you see where I am coming from?
>
> -Lance
>
> On 4/17/05, Noah wrote:
> > Lance,
> >
> > I see you posted something about sending those miniatures out. I just
> want
> > to know, did you send mine? The trade was for a Beholder on my end and on
> > the other was, Warpriest of Hextor, Centaur Hero, and a Fiendish Praying
> > Mantis. This is what I have been waiting on and this is what I would like
> > to get. Let me know if you sent these if not Ill take the Beholder back.
> I
> > dont see any of these pieces in your list so im hoping you already shipped
> > them. I dont wanna blow you up on the boards, its been done already, but
> I
> > would like to know whats up. Thanks bro.
> >
> > Noah

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Originally posted by brothernoah

WTF

Do you own a Beholder. Well you should have mine, it arrived at your house on 4/11/05. Thats the one I sent and thats the one I want back if im not getting the ones we agreed on. A "few" good ones arent ones that I want nor do I need.

Noah

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Wilson"
To: "Noah"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: beholder trade


Well I guess it is that or nothing eh?

Take it or leave it...I'm giving people the opportunity to get some
minis (several of them very nice) to make this right. If that's not
good enough, then nothing will be.

***************

On 4/17/05, Noah wrote:
> uhhh.....id rather just have my beholder or the ones we agreed on. I'm the one thats out here bro. And no one is really buying the whole mail thing and to keep harping on that is really just gonna dig you a bigger whole. Especially if the USPS gets involved. Im not trying to be a dick my man, id rather just erase this whole ordeal from my brain, get my beholder back and trade it to my boy for the same as we were trading. Make it happen bro.
>
> Noah
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lance Wilson"
> To: "Noah"
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:50 PM
> Subject: Re: beholder trade
>
> Noah, Your pieces were sent out. (Wether the arrive is doubtful seeing
> the current trend) What I'm trying to do is, send everything I can
> spare + some cash to a respectable and trust worthy member of
> maxminis. From there it can be split up among those who did not
> recieve their packages due to the USPS error. (Such as you) And mailed out using the cash that was included. As I said earlier it's
unrealistic and unfair to expect me to send back everything I traded
for...then what happens is I'm not only losing everything I traded for them BUT What I got in return. It's a lose lose for me...I end up with basically no collection at all. Can you see where I am coming from?
>
> -Lance
>
> On 4/17/05, Noah wrote:
> > Lance,
> >
> > I see you posted something about sending those miniatures out. I just
> want
> > to know, did you send mine? The trade was for a Beholder on my end and on
> > the other was, Warpriest of Hextor, Centaur Hero, and a Fiendish Praying
> > Mantis. This is what I have been waiting on and this is what I would like
> > to get. Let me know if you sent these if not Ill take the Beholder back.
> I
> > dont see any of these pieces in your list so im hoping you already shipped
> > them. I dont wanna blow you up on the boards, its been done already, but
> I
> > would like to know whats up. Thanks bro.
> >
> > Noah

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Please read my other thread...you'll notice a beholder on the list as well as the 3 minis you wanted...as in once these get mailed to that trust worthy and respectable member (Any takers or suggestions?)...you WILL have a Beholder or the 3 you wanted! So please remain patient and all will be made right.

-Lance

Cant you just mail mine?

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Originally posted by brothernoah

Cant you just mail mine?

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I'd prefer to do it the way I outlined in the other thread I posted here in the reference forum, not only does it keep all eyes on one single package (Insured and with DC) but allows me to clean my hands of this in one fell swoop. At the longest you would have your minis about 2 weeks after I sent to the middle man...then he would need to send to you. (but more likely around a week)

-Lance

Anyone else who has been ripped off by Lance, please email me. I'm compiling a list for submission to the Nevada, MO police department.

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Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius

Anyone else who has been ripped off by Lance, please email me. I'm compiling a list for submission to the Nevada, MO police department.

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Is there a reason your compiling evidence against me as I'm trying to compensate individuals and work things out? (Including you!) Check my other thread for details.

-Lance