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02/02/2006 10:15 AM  
Quick question here. There was a map that came in a dragon magazine a few months back, I believe it was #317? Can anyone tell me the name of the map and confirm the issue #?

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02/02/2006 10:17 AM  
Drow Outpost.

Not sure the issue.

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02/02/2006 10:17 AM  
Dragon's Hoard: #322
Drow Outpost: #337

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02/02/2006 10:25 AM  
Thanks, just ordered them from Paizo.com

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02/02/2006 4:57 PM  
quote:
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Thanks, just ordered them from Paizo.com

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I'm not 100% sure that 'backorders' will come with the map. Let us know if they do ... (Or IuztheEvil may know ...)

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02/02/2006 5:02 PM  
I bought mine from Paizo just last month, it does come with the map.

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02/02/2006 6:55 PM  
I'd figure they come with the maps since other backorder issues come with there maps (Greyhawk/Forgotten Realms 4 part series.)

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02/02/2006 7:27 PM  
Is the Drow Outpost legal for tournament play?

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02/02/2006 7:34 PM  
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Is the Drow Outpost legal for tournament play?



Yes, it will be once War Drums rules are in play.

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02/02/2006 8:05 PM  
Drax,

Were you able to get #322 also? I've been looking for the Dragon's hoard, and didn't realize it was possible to order.

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02/02/2006 8:59 PM  
Actually, the Drow Outpost is being used in sanctioned tournaments right now, as are the maps from Fantastic Locations.

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02/02/2006 10:46 PM  
Is Dragon magazine the only place to get that map?

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02/02/2006 10:48 PM  
Yes, I believe so.

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02/02/2006 10:50 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker

Is Dragon magazine the only place to get that map?



Yeah. There's no info out there saying that it's avaliable anywhere else. If you don't have one, go and order the mag. Now. I'll wait. [:)]

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02/02/2006 11:00 PM  
I don't believe dragon's hoard is legal for tournament play. It is a scenario map. There are no victory areas on it.

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02/02/2006 11:05 PM  
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I don't believe dragon's hoard is legal for tournament play. It is a scenario map. There are no victory areas on it.



That's correct, however Drow Outpost is legal.

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02/03/2006 1:21 AM  
Just so some of you know, we do have a limited number of these Dragon Magazine issues (#337) in stock. Please [url="mailto:order@vesivus.com"]email us[/url] if you'd like to inquire about them.

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02/03/2006 3:15 AM  
If I recall, issue 337 was the one Paizo had to ship a majority of their back stock to Europe due to some weird foul-up. It could be hard to find.

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02/03/2006 3:21 AM  
I should check my FLGS for the back issues. They might make good trade bait.

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If I recall, issue 337 was the one Paizo had to ship a majority of their back stock to Europe due to some weird foul-up. It could be hard to find.


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02/03/2006 10:38 AM  
To those interested. I called them and the maps do infact ship with the magazines. Also both issues I ordered are in stock, and they shipped out the same day, although I did order them at like 6am via the web.

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02/03/2006 2:02 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Draxle

To those interested. I called them and the maps do infact ship with the magazines. Also both issues I ordered are in stock, and they shipped out the same day, although I did order them at like 6am via the web.

Drax



The above it correct, ordering issue #337 not only getes you a sweet article on Zuggtmoy, but a Drow Outpost poster map. The map will be tournament legal (and may be now, I am not sure how the RPGA is playing that) and is only available through the magazine.

We did have a snafu with the issue and had to ship the majority of our copies overseas. We have gotten some back, but I do not expect them to last forever.

And if you like this promo.. wait till you see what we have in store... its Huge.

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02/03/2006 2:05 PM  
quote:
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...And if you like this promo.. wait till you see what we have in store... its Huge.

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Cool. A new huge map would be very welcome. I hope it comes soon ...

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02/03/2006 2:05 PM  
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Draxle

To those interested. I called them and the maps do infact ship with the magazines. Also both issues I ordered are in stock, and they shipped out the same day, although I did order them at like 6am via the web.

Drax



The above it correct, ordering issue #337 not only getes you a sweet article on Zuggtmoy, but a Drow Outpost poster map. The map will be tournament legal (and may be now, I am not sure how the RPGA is playing that) and is only available through the magazine.

We did have a snafu with the issue and had to ship the majority of our copies overseas. We have gotten some back, but I do not expect them to last forever.

And if you like this promo.. wait till you see what we have in store... its Huge.

Jason Bulmahn
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I used to be subscribed to Dragon and Dungeon but I cancelled due to reasons that are inconsequential to this post; however I just wanted to say that I bought issue #337 NOT because of the map but because of the Zuggy [)] article, the map was just the icing on the cake. [:D]


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02/03/2006 2:35 PM  
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Actually, the Drow Outpost is being used in sanctioned tournaments right now, as are the maps from Fantastic Locations.

Per the DCI rules you can this map (or any other one) only if it is availiable to all players (no map init. every on the same map)

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02/03/2006 2:38 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by smilinIrish

I don't believe dragon's hoard is legal for tournament play. It is a scenario map. There are no victory areas on it.



That's correct, however Drow Outpost is legal.

The dragon's hoard is legal in a DCI event only if it is provided so everyone plays on it. No map other then the Lost Temple map is currently legal for a sanctioned DCI event.

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02/03/2006 2:54 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest

Actually, the Drow Outpost is being used in sanctioned tournaments right now, as are the maps from Fantastic Locations.

Per the DCI rules you can this map (or any other one) only if it is availiable to all players (no map init. every on the same map)

Reading over the DCI rules again, this was the previous update. Current only talks about the Lost Temple being legal and only for "Extreme Scenarios".

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02/03/2006 3:07 PM  
I have both of these maps in large JPG format and PDF format but I'm not sharing them simply because as long as they are not impossible to find I see little reason.

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02/03/2006 4:39 PM  
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The dragon's hoard is legal in a DCI event only if it is provided so everyone plays on it. No map other then the Lost Temple map is currently legal for a sanctioned DCI event.


That is only what it SAYS in the floor rules. Remember, it still says in the Floor rules that a draw equal 1 point, when everyone knows it now equal zero points.

Both of the New England Opens have been sanctioned, with maps, by the DCI (and with their knowledge).

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02/03/2006 5:05 PM  
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quote:
The dragon's hoard is legal in a DCI event only if it is provided so everyone plays on it. No map other then the Lost Temple map is currently legal for a sanctioned DCI event.


That is only what it SAYS in the floor rules. Remember, it still says in the Floor rules that a draw equal 1 point, when everyone knows it now equal zero points.

Both of the New England Opens have been sanctioned, with maps, by the DCI (and with their knowledge).

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A great point. Here in Atlanta, we're maps on out through the prerelease with two official tournaments to take place before the actual Release tourney for War Drums. I really think that maps are just the way to go and am excited to be playing on them. I'm hoping the floor rules update around the same time as War Drums so we start off fresh across the board.

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02/03/2006 5:22 PM  
Recognizing that its not legal for general play, is the Dragon's Hoard map useable for skirmish? Even without the victory areas, is it worth getting?

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02/03/2006 5:31 PM  
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Recognizing that its not legal for general play, is the Dragon's Hoard map useable for skirmish? Even without the victory areas, is it worth getting?

my points was it is just as legal as all the other maps that are being used. (the DCI floor rules need to be updated!!!)

Is it worth it? you could run the rules that it came with. or better yet use it in you rpg game as a the group enters the dragons horde room, the dragon then breaths on everyone and knowing he will die to the advertures, melts all his gold into a big clump. [:)]

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