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02/08/2006 3:22 PM  
Monsters/Characters from Red Hand of Doom

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******************* SPOILERS! *****************

if you are playing this module don't read as it contains spoilers

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Ripped from the appendix / random monster tables



* = minis already made

high wyrmlord azarr kul (half blue dragon hobgoblin cleric)
wyrmlord hravek kharn (hobgoblin favored soul / talon of tiamat)
wyrmlord ulwai stormcaller (hobgoblin bard / strongsinger)
wyrmlord saarvith (goblin ranger)
wyrmlord koth (bugbear sorc)
tyrgarun (young adult large blue dragon)*
varanthian (huge behir)*
abithriax (juvenile large red dragon)*
regiarix (juvenile medium black dragon)*
ozyrrandion (young medium green dragon)*
aspect of tiamat (huge dragon extraplaner)
miha serani (aranea sorcerer)
skather (blackspawn raider ninja)
blackspawn raiders (new monstrous humanoid / dragonblood)
blood ghost berserker (bugbear barbarian)
blue abishai (medium outsiders)
bluespawn thunderlizard (large magical beast dragonblood / LE)
doom fist monk (hobgoblin monk)
doom hand cleric (hobgoblin cleric)
doom hand warpriest (hobgoblin clierc/warpriest)
goblin worg rider (golbin / worg?)
greenspawn razorfiend (large magical beast / dragonblood)
hobgoblin bladebearer
hobgoblin regular (warrior)
hobgoblin sergeant
hobgoblin veteran
kulkor zhul mindbender (bard/mindbender)
kulkor zhul war adept (sorc)

ghostlord (lich druid/blighter)
ghost brute lion (incorp undead)
ghost dire lion (incorp undead)
gray ooze (large ooze)
lesser bonedrinker (small undead)

captain soranna anithah (fighter)
jorr natherson (ranger/rogue)
old warklegnaw (male forest giant)
tiri kitor (female elf druid)
killiar arrowswift (elf ranger)
trellara nightshadow (elf bard)
tiri kitor hunte (elf ranger)

lars ulverth (fighter)
tedora goldenbrow (aasimar cleric of pelor)
immerstal the red (wizard)
lion of brindol (fighter)
human town guard (warrior)
human militia (commoner)
crimson tiger thug (rogue)


random encounters

gray render*
centipde swarms
dryads
assassin vines
digester
ettercaps*
large monstrous spiders*
giant wasps
girallon
goblin worg riders
manticores*
owlbears*
shambling mound*
tendriculos
trolls*
stirges
dire boar*
giant stag beetle
hieracosphinxes
wyverns*
hell hounds*
bhargests*
ogres*
worgs*
greenspawn razorfiends
chuul*
eight-headed hydra
giant crocodiles
harpies*
will-o-wisp
gibbering mouther*
ochre jelly*
ghouls*
ghasts
lizardfolk*
basilisks*
bulette*
chimera*
dire lions*
ghost brute lions
ghost dire lions
spider eaters
lesser bonedrinkers
lions
wights*
ankhegs*
huge monstrous spider
yrthak
achaierais*
behir*
ettins*
bearded devils*
griffons*



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02/08/2006 3:25 PM  
Ugh, that's a lot of figures to read through. Thanks for the spoiler. The one that caught my eye was the Goblin Worg Rider...oh, how I hope we get an uncommon of that in War Drums...it just fits.
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02/08/2006 3:28 PM  
Crap. If I knew it was going to have that many dragons involved, I would have paid more attention to it! [:P]

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02/08/2006 3:30 PM  
thank you for taking the time Wakalimasu! [:D]

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02/08/2006 3:30 PM  
bolded a bunch that looked like possible minis :p

i think we be getting more hobgoblins pretty soon too

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02/08/2006 3:33 PM  
Cool,alot of those monsters would be excellent minis.

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02/08/2006 3:44 PM  
Weren't there greater barghests in there? Those would be large, and might be a new mini.
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02/08/2006 3:49 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Wakalimasu

yah some greater barghests as well





I've been hoping for a lesser barghest since Harbinger.

Not as much as more dragons, but they need something to fight! [)]

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02/08/2006 3:49 PM  
The lesser bonedrinker and Hydra are a good bet on minis. The Hydra is a Huge that we are really needing.

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02/08/2006 3:50 PM  
yah some greater barghests as well


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02/08/2006 3:51 PM  
How big is this adventure?

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02/08/2006 3:52 PM  
I'd love to see another 1/2 dragon, particularly an evil one. Can't wait to see what's to come, but I bet some of these will show up in WotDQ.

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02/08/2006 3:55 PM  
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Originally posted by spikegif

How big is this adventure?



128 pgs. -- so sayeth the site of the Wiz.

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02/08/2006 3:58 PM  
Excellent work. Some might make War Drums or War Drums "leftovers" in WOTDQ. My guess is that many of these will be found in WOTD, woo hoo !!! ΖD]

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02/08/2006 3:59 PM  
Starting at level 5, the final encounter is with the Aspect of Tiamat with a CR of 13 (if I remember correctly).

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02/08/2006 4:00 PM  
It was shoeggested that all most of the creatures in the adventure already have minis, reasonable approximations, or will be coming out this year.

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02/08/2006 4:04 PM  
I was a bit disappointed that the book didn't have the suggested minis in it (didn't smaller adventure with Orog warlord have them?)

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02/08/2006 4:05 PM  
Very cool! At the risk of sounding picky, though, we got a ghast mini in GoL. [:o)]

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02/08/2006 4:09 PM  
How hard would it be to put the adventure into an Eberron setting?

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02/08/2006 4:11 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Wakalimasu

huge monstrous spider



Vindicate me!!!!!

but really, I'd like to see all mentioned figures as minis.

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02/08/2006 4:20 PM  
Sounds cool might have to go out and buy it now

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02/08/2006 4:21 PM  
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Originally posted by spikegif

How hard would it be to put the adventure into an Eberron setting?



I wouldn't imagine it would be very difficult, Mr. DM! [:P]

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02/08/2006 4:23 PM  
Wow. If these really do line up with figures we'll have by the end of the year, we can count on the following huges to be amongst the DQ 12 (including those known from other sources):

Huge Blue Dracolich
Forest Giant
Aspect of Tiamat
(8 Headed?) Hydra
Huge Monstrous Spider
Yrthak
Giant Crocodile
Tendriculous

Any I missed?

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02/08/2006 4:34 PM  
Awesome work... man I need to get hold of this book. Too bad my FLGS haven't been getting the modules. I have too order them online. Great job !!!!

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02/08/2006 4:57 PM  
I think you can already proxy the bonedrinker pretty well with a dolgaunt monk, so that might fall into the "reasonable proxy" clause.

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02/08/2006 5:07 PM  
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02/08/2006 5:11 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden

Wow. If these really do line up with figures we'll have by the end of the year, we can count on the following huges to be amongst the DQ 12 (including those known from other sources):

Huge Blue Dracolich
Forest Giant
Aspect of Tiamat
(8 Headed?) Hydra
Huge Monstrous Spider
Yrthak
Giant Crocodile
Tendriculous

Any I missed?



I'm curious to see which of these actually appear among the huges, and which fall under the "reasonable proxy" category. For example, I'd say that it's more likely we'll see a large-sized crocodile before we see a huge one. Who knows though.

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02/08/2006 5:14 PM  
Just to hedge out bets here, Shoe said:
quote:
However, those of you with minis (so, all of you) should be able to determine which minis to use, since most of the encounters use creatures that either are currently minis, have reasonable approximations, or will be minis sometime this year...
So, *most* of these creatures either:

a.) already have a mini,
b.) have a reasonable approximation, *or*
c.) will be released as minis sometime this year.

Accordingly, we have no idea which of the 'new' monsters listed above will make it to figure form this year, as some of them will not (because only *most* will be figures by the end of the year).

In fact, Shoe's comment would be accurate if the only creatures in the above list that made it into figure form by the end of the year were the ones that were already produced and the Aspect of Tiamat. In other words, we might not get a Hydra, Tendriculous, Forest Giant, Assassin Vines, Spider Eaters, Stirge, Goblin Worg Rider, or any of the others ...

Just food for thought ...

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02/08/2006 5:28 PM  
quote:
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... For example, I'd say that it's more likely we'll see a large-sized crocodile before we see a huge one. Who knows though.

I'd take that bet ... Check your 3.5 MM. There is no such thing as a large crocodile in D&D. Normal crocodiles are medium (even advanced ones), and giant ones are huge. Unless they release a 'crocodile under the effects of animal growth' mini, I think we're unlikely to see any large crocs ...

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02/08/2006 7:22 PM  
Any particular reason why some of the potential monsters are bolded and not other? For example, while I can't say I really plan on using any, there's nothing to say a Digester -won't- get immortalized in plastic sometime soon...

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02/08/2006 7:50 PM  
naw .. just whatever that looked neat i bolded .. i guess i could of bolded every single one of them ;)

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02/08/2006 7:54 PM  
Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.

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02/08/2006 7:58 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugdenI'd take that bet ... Check your 3.5 MM. There is no such thing as a large crocodile in D&D. Normal crocodiles are medium (even advanced ones), and giant ones are huge. Unless they release a 'crocodile under the effects of animal growth' mini, I think we're unlikely to see any large crocs ...


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02/08/2006 8:20 PM  
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Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.



The designers said they could really only release the piece as a huge, not large. The necks were too small and tended to break or bend too much at the smaller "large" size. Besides, the Races of the Dragon improved the size of the Aspect of Bahamut ot huge.

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02/08/2006 8:20 PM  
quote:
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Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.



WotC has said that they're redoing it as a Huge instead of a Large, simply because you can't get a five-headed dragon sculpt to look good without making it at least Huge.

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02/08/2006 8:27 PM  
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.



The designers said they could really only release the piece as a huge, not large. The necks were too small and tended to break or bend too much at the smaller "large" size. Besides, the Races of the Dragon improved the size of the Aspect of Bahamut ot huge.



Interesting...I think we can count on an Aspect of Bahamut in WotDQ, then. Perhaps:

Aspect of Bahamut
Aspect of Tiamat
Tendriculos
Yrthak
8-Headed Hydra
Huge Earth Elemental
Huge Black Dragon
Huge Blue Dracolich
Giant Crocodile
Huge Monstrous Spider
A Huge Giant(hopefully Death or Eldritch)
Celestial Triceratops

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02/08/2006 10:07 PM  
A lesser bonedrinker would be great, it could proxy for any small fleshy undead like zombie halflings (or children).

WotC has shown in the past that they feel no inclination to release related mini's together, so I see no reason for them to start now. Aspect of Bahamut is doubtful in WotDQ, in my opinion.

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02/08/2006 11:50 PM  
I just got the adventure tonight, myself. I was a little surprised to not find "suggested miniatures" anywhere in the book. That could be because of my poor observation skills, or it could be because there aren't any references to miniatures in the adventure.

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02/09/2006 12:34 AM  
And we've got the worg rider (see the new WarDrums preview)...

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02/09/2006 12:44 AM  
quote:
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I just got the adventure tonight, myself. I was a little surprised to not find "suggested miniatures" anywhere in the book. That could be because of my poor observation skills, or it could be because there aren't any references to miniatures in the adventure.


There aren't any references to minis in the book--Shoe has confirmed as much. He also claims that we're clever enough (or the choices are obvious enough) to figure out what currently available minis should be used when the encounter is run--although he did hint that some were coming in the next year that would be appropriate as well.

I guess they take the whole "leak" thing pretty seriously now. [V]

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