devasque
Sergeant
874 Posts
    
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| A whole list of possibilities... (insert mad cackle of glee). I see a Talon of Tiamat on the list there. Goes with my previous predictions that we'll see one in WotDQ most likely.
We got a called shot thread for WotDQ yet? Got to search... | |
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monster_slayer
Warrior
331 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 8:47 AM |
| | Sweeet! Maybe they'll just make them all. | |
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simage
Sergeant
746 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 11:23 AM |
| | Does the adventure have any new minis skirmish maps? | |
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12270 | |
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 11:26 AM |
| | interest level rising... | |
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Wakalimasu
Sergeant
738 Posts
Calgary
| | 02/09/2006 2:19 PM |
| i think it comes with a double sided map for the adventurer.. havent really taken it out .. as i doubt i will ever use it
great package though
recommend buy :p
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1357 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 2:24 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by simage
Does the adventure have any new minis skirmish maps?
They're scaled for minis, but they're not tournament legal (no starting or victory areas). | | | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 2:26 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Wakalimasu
Depending if Dragonblood would be a factor
high wyrmlord azarr kul (half blue dragon hobgoblin cleric)
wyrmlord hravek kharn (hobgoblin favored soul / talon of tiamat)
wyrmlord ulwai stormcaller (hobgoblin bard / strongsinger)
wyrmlord saarvith (goblin ranger) Goblin Sneak
wyrmlord koth (bugbear sorc)
miha serani (aranea sorcerer)
skather (blackspawn raider ninja)
blackspawn raiders (new monstrous humanoid / dragonblood)
blood ghost berserker (bugbear barbarian) Bugbear Champion of Enwhatever
blue abishai (medium outsiders)
bluespawn thunderlizard (large magical beast dragonblood / LE)
doom fist monk (hobgoblin monk)
doom hand cleric (hobgoblin cleric)
doom hand warpriest (hobgoblin clierc/warpriest)
greenspawn razorfiend (large magical beast / dragonblood)
hobgoblin bladebearer Bladebearer Hobgoblin
hobgoblin veteran
kulkor zhul mindbender (bard/mindbender)
kulkor zhul war adept (sorc)
ghostlord (lich druid/blighter) Lich Necromancer
ghost brute lion (incorp undead)
ghost dire lion (incorp undead) Dire Lion
gray ooze (large ooze) Ocre Jelly
lesser bonedrinker (small undead)
captain soranna anithah (fighter) Im assuming human so any human Fighter
jorr natherson (ranger/rogue) see above
old warklegnaw (male forest giant)
tiri kitor (female elf druid) Vadania Elf Druid
killiar arrowswift (elf ranger) any of our numerous elf archers
trellara nightshadow (elf bard) Devis, Half-elf Bard
tiri kitor hunte (elf ranger) Again
More "PC types" that coul just use one of the many "PC Type" minis
lars ulverth (fighter)
tedora goldenbrow (aasimar cleric of pelor) Aasimar Favored soul or Jozan, Cleric of Pelor
immerstal the red (wizard)
lion of brindol (fighter)
human town guard (warrior)
human militia (commoner)
crimson tiger thug (rogue)
random encounters
centipde swarms Possibly a large Centripede coming in WD from the cover of the Starter
dryads
assassin vines
digester
giant wasps
tendriculos
stirges
giant stag beetle
hieracosphinxes
greenspawn razorfiends
eight-headed hydra
giant crocodiles
will-o-wisp
ghost brute lions
ghost dire lions Dire Lion
spider eaters
lesser bonedrinkers
lions Hunting cougar - as Lioness
huge monstrous spider
yrthak
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simage
Sergeant
746 Posts
| | 02/09/2006 3:22 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
quote:
Originally posted by simage
Does the adventure have any new minis skirmish maps?
They're scaled for minis, but they're not tournament legal (no starting or victory areas).
Well, there goes one sale. Thanks. | |
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12270 | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 1:19 AM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.
That's true. But the section on Aspects also clearly states that Aspects come in other sizes, larger and smaller, too. But the majority are Large.
If they're goint to change sizes, it might as well be on the Dragons. I'd hate to get a SMALL Aspect of Vecna or a MEDIUM Aspect of Lolth. | |
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Darastrix Maekrix
dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 1:25 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by A Can of the Cave Beer
quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Remember that the aspect of tiamat in the MHB is large, not huge.
That's true. But the section on Aspects also clearly states that Aspects come in other sizes, larger and smaller, too. But the majority are Large.
If they're goint to change sizes, it might as well be on the Dragons. I'd hate to get a SMALL Aspect of Vecna or a MEDIUM Aspect of Lolth.
As I said earlier in this thread, the book Races of the Dragon has made the Aspect of Bahamut huge, not large. The aspects of Tiamat and Bahamut will be huge, now. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 2:18 AM |
| I'm not disputing (or I'm not intending to dispute) what's in the Races of the Dragon, dariustad. I don't have that book and likely never will.
I'm trying to clarify that Aspects (all Aspects) come in a variety of sizes from Small to Huge (pg. 47, Miniatures Handbook). People seem to get hung up on the whole size issue, and it's already been built into the Aspect rules.
I guess I should have stated that the Miniatures Handbook stated that the Aspects are usually (almost always) Large, but come in both larger and smaller sizes. So, it is possible to have a Small Aspect of Lolth (interesting conversion for a Spider of Lolth and a Lidda, Adventurer...) et al.
Since I'm inadvertantly honking everyone off: did RotD change the stats on Bahamut on non-size related issues at all? | |
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Darastrix Maekrix
dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 2:59 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by A Can of the Cave Beer
I'm not disputing (or I'm not intending to dispute) what's in the Races of the Dragon, dariustad. I don't have that book and likely never will.
I'm trying to clarify that Aspects (all Aspects) come in a variety of sizes from Small to Huge (pg. 47, Miniatures Handbook). People seem to get hung up on the whole size issue, and it's already been built into the Aspect rules.
I guess I should have stated that the Miniatures Handbook stated that the Aspects are usually (almost always) Large, but come in both larger and smaller sizes. So, it is possible to have a Small Aspect of Lolth (interesting conversion for a Spider of Lolth and a Lidda, Adventurer...) et al.
Since I'm inadvertantly honking everyone off: did RotD change the stats on Bahamut on non-size related issues at all?
Nah, you're not bothering me. WotC has basically shown they go with newer released material than old. So, I think they'd go with the huge over the large. I understand what you're saying about the size issue in relating to the aspects. The Aspect of Bahamut seems to be a special case since it was updated for huge size. In some ways, I think they're trying to move the RPG info from the MiniH to other books.
As for the stats, I'll run a quick compare and post a follow-up. | |
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Darastrix Maekrix
dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 3:06 AM |
| Comparison between Large and Huge Aspect of Bahamut (no stats will be printed, only correlations):
Huge aspect has:
more HP
slightly higher AC
modifications to stats for being huge over large
only higher fort save
breath weapon still 1/day, but slightly more powerful
Basically, it's the large aspect +2 HD and the huge modifiers to its stats (STR and CON).
That's it.
I can see the increase as a way to make an aspect of Bahamut that has a chance vs. a huge aspect of Tiamat. | |
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LCS
Underboss
1896 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 6:53 AM |
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There are some hints about which creatures will soon be made into miniatures in the designer interview for the module.
See other topic: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15204[/url]
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nedleeds
Warrior
240 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 10:06 AM |
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Originally posted by yack
Awesome work... man I need to get hold of this book. Too bad my FLGS haven't been getting the modules. I have too order them online. Great job !!!!
Amazon has it for $16 with free shipping, probably 1/2 the reason my FLGS is going out of business. | |
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Tasmanian_tiger
Warrior
300 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 10:09 AM |
| | Does anyone know if it's already out in Europe (better Belgium;p)? I am very interested in buying it. | |
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qstor
Sneak
136 Posts
| | 02/10/2006 11:29 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by yack
Awesome work... man I need to get hold of this book.
Is this out already?
thanks
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Anoo
Skirmisher
1 Posts
| | 02/26/2006 1:18 AM |
| | So, what I'm reading is that I'm gonna have to custom make my own to-scale Tarrasque. I'm thinking that a coffee table should be good starting point? | |
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Zeb
Underboss
2027 Posts
| | 02/26/2006 3:34 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Almalik
I was a bit disappointed that the book didn't have the suggested minis in it (didn't smaller adventure with Orog warlord have them?)
Yes, the Sons of Gruumsh had suggested minis to use for the various encounters. Quite useful actually... | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 02/26/2006 7:19 PM |
| I think they've moved away from that because we were getting too many leaks from published sources.
From the flip side of that argument, though, most of us are clever enough to be able to figure out which minis can be used for each adventure, and which ones make suitable proxies, though. So it's actually a bit redundant to have that section in there.
While I enjoyed getting the leaks, I enjoy getting a better value for my dollar even more, and without those "suggested minis" sections, WotC have more space to devote to the actual adventure.
So, in the end: We get a bigger bang for the buck and WotC shuts down leaks. It seems fairly win/win as far as I'm concerned. | |
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Tactician
Sergeant
888 Posts
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