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| On the side of the new box, I see Regdar, Cleric of Moradin, Greycloak Ranger, and repainted Evermeet Wizard. Anyone else want to hazard a guess?
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
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| | 02/09/2006 2:58 PM |
| | Nope they seem to be spot on there. Looks like we're getting another repaint to track down, through the basic game, and from a really old set nonetheless. | |
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jgsugden
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| | 02/09/2006 3:00 PM |
| I doubt it is a repaint ... it is probably a new figure with a similar pose (like the Tiefling Blademaster and Artemis have similar poses).
It will be cruel if they put a graycloak ranger in set, but no (Harbinger) wolf ...
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IanB
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| | 02/09/2006 3:02 PM |
| | Doubt there's a new figure in the basic game. A repaint would seem more likely to me. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 3:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
I doubt it is a repaint ... it is probably a new figure with a similar pose (like the Tiefling Blademaster and Artemis have similar poses).
It would be cool to get a new mini, but the hair, legs, arm position and wand just say, 'Hey, I'm a repainted Evermeet Wizard.'
I would love to be wrong.
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Originally posted by Schooly_D
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| | 02/09/2006 3:04 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by IanB
Doubt there's a new figure in the basic game. A repaint would seem more likely to me.
Agreed.
A repaint of any of those standard figures is fine by me. | | | |
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Zoons
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| | 02/09/2006 3:22 PM |
| Actually, if the're including the Evermeet Wizard, a pile of Wolves would be good since she can summon a bunch.
Souvlis, Gimble, and the other two MISSING ICONICS would have been ideal. [V] | |
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jgsugden
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| | 02/09/2006 3:24 PM |
| We have 2 sets to be released before this thing hits the streets, IIRC. That last figure could be a figure from WotDQ or War Drums.
After all, the Basic set hit just around the time of GoL, and there were GoL figures in it ... | |
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| | 02/09/2006 3:36 PM |
| | If you ask me it looks like a bear. Maybe that's not a hero, but a villian, or simply an enemy | |
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| | 02/09/2006 4:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zoons
Souvlis, Gimble, and the other two MISSING ICONICS would have been ideal. [V]
I think you got something there, first I thought the fourth mini to be Nebin, but it looks a bit like the Hennet illustration in the PHB as well. Crossbow in the right hand, human-sized spellcaster, who knows?
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| | 02/09/2006 4:39 PM |
| Yay. I really like the basic set. the current(?) one has great desgin & well thought out.
Evermeet wizard, cost wise, seems very out of place... evermeet apprentic maybe [)]
Don't really like the blue, dislike minis on rocks/mounds etc.
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| | 02/09/2006 4:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
quote:
Originally posted by IanB
Doubt there's a new figure in the basic game. A repaint would seem more likely to me.
Agreed.
A repaint of any of those standard figures is fine by me.
Indeed. Repaints might actually encourage me to purchase one. I still haven't bought the original Basic Set. | |
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Lab Monkey
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| | 02/09/2006 4:43 PM |
| It really does look like an Evermeet Wizard Repaint.
Well, with that and a large blue dragon, plus cool tiles, I may have to pick this up. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 4:52 PM |
| Yeah, looks like Evermeet to me too. Fits the model, though they don't have a rogue...
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| | 02/09/2006 4:52 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Rav950
Yeah, looks like Evermeet to me too. Fits the model, though they don't have a rogue...
Anyhow, I'll pick it up for sure... and add my 2nd large blue dragon to my trade pile. ;)
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| | 02/09/2006 4:52 PM |
| Brilliant marketing to include a large dragon.
I just ran about 1/2 of the first set with my two young sons and a couple of others - it was a great introduction, though they all struggled with the differences between RPG and DDM.
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| | 02/09/2006 5:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
It really does look like an Evermeet Wizard Repaint.
Well, with that and a large blue dragon, plus cool tiles, I may have to pick this up.
tiles.....or maps??? | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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LargeMarmot
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| | 02/09/2006 5:13 PM |
| | So after Regdar's old team of lvl 1s was killed by the black dragon he decided to put together a new one and take on a blue? I dont see why we are getting another one of him when there are lots of other icons people would love to see reprinted - Tordek, Jozan, Mialee, etc. Oh well. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 5:19 PM |
| | The first one looks like it has sword down. Might still be regdar, but maybe a new pose? | |
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| | 02/09/2006 5:28 PM |
| | I'd guess that since the box is still thick that we will get oversize tiles that are gameboard quality again. Otherwise the box is going to be pretty empty. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 5:31 PM |
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Originally posted by dariustad
This trading of dragons away is a foreign and barbaric concept to me! Be gone with your heathen ways! [:o)]
Well, what if he traded it for a different dragon? [:P]
Yeah, the last one does look like a repainted Evermeet Wizard, but why would that be the only one that's a repaint? It makes no sense... | |
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| | 02/09/2006 5:33 PM |
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Originally posted by Zaukrie
I'd guess that since the box is still thick that we will get oversize tiles that are gameboard quality again. Otherwise the box is going to be pretty empty.
I hope so. I though those oversized stroong tiles were pretty slick. I hope they do better with the stat cards though. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 5:56 PM |
| Im happy they decided to include a LBD. I grimaced a bit to see the same regdar though. Of all the minis out there, that regdar is probably at the top of my dislikes. I even like the wtf more. It would have been nicer if they stuck with the dragoneye version of him. The greycloak is nice to see again, even though most of us have 12 or so of him. Im looking forward to see what other goodies are in it. (you can never have too many dire rats)
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| | 02/09/2006 5:56 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by greyhaze
The first one looks like it has sword down. Might still be regdar, but maybe a new pose?
Hmm..sword looks 'up' to me. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 6:00 PM |
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Originally posted by lurch_E_bean
Yeah, the last one does look like a repainted Evermeet Wizard, but why would that be the only one that's a repaint? It makes no sense...
I agree that it looks exactly like a repainted Evermeet Wizard. As to why it's the only repaint, my guess is that it's the only mini whose color scheme they felt they needed to change.
The Evermeet Wizard is girly enough, with her bare legs and long blond hair. Dressing her in pink as well makes it so that A) any boys using her figure are relentlessly mocked; B) even girls are likely to say "ugh, too girly" and pick the Greycloak Ranger instead. | |
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jgsugden
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| | 02/09/2006 7:02 PM |
| The first basic set had no repaints.
We've had many figures with similar poses in the past.
There are 84 figures that we have no idea about that will be produced between now and when the basic set is released.
The Evermeet Wizard wasn't exactly the most loved figure (aesthetically) to ever pass through the game.
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zenthrus
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| | 02/09/2006 7:11 PM |
| | Since Regdar is the box art I'd imagine that first mini is him (plus the sword is up not down). I'm not sold on the Evermeet Wizard repaint. Similar fig doesn't mean identical (put a Half-Orc Paladin and a Warforged Hero next to each other and try to tell them apart from 5 feet back). I expected to see more iconics, however. I'd imagine that as heroes in the Basic Game they'd at least get names (i.e. Beavis the Graycloak Ranger). If that does happen to be a repainted Evermeet Wizard there darn well better be a pile of Harbinger wolves in the box!!! Even if that isn't a repainted Evermeet Wiz there still better be a pile of Harbinger wolves in the box [:o] | |
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| | 02/09/2006 8:21 PM |
| | I for one will be picking this up, since it will probably be roughly around the same amount as a LBD and include other things as a bonus. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 8:32 PM |
| | Also if anyone one is interested, it says in the product description that it does indeed include the tiles. | |
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| | 02/09/2006 8:55 PM |
| I realy doubt it wil be the Evermeet wizard. Much more likely to be a similar looking/posed mini.
Way too expensinve to be in with the rest, and she wouldnt have much to summon ... 4 heroes, 1 dragon, leaves 7 other mins for bad guys. Taking summons out of them and the characters will out number the encounters. | |
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| | 02/10/2006 12:05 AM |
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Originally posted by slayer1
Also if anyone one is interested, it says in the product description that it does indeed include the tiles.
I wonder if this will turn out to be a typo left over from the original basic set description... | |
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| | 02/10/2006 12:07 AM |
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I for one will be picking this up, since it will probably be roughly around the same amount as a LBD and include other things as a bonus.
Same logic for why I bought the last Basic Game. Get Orc Warriors + Med Black Dragon for less than two Orc Warriors were going for on ebay at the time ? ? ? Count me in!
This time around I'm a little less interested since the "heroes" look mainly like pieces I have tons of and another Large Blue isn't as exciting as the medium Black was. I suppose it will all depend on the other baddies. | |
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| | 02/10/2006 1:05 AM |
| If it's still got tiles, I'll probably pick one up. I like the tiles. They're just so STURDY--you don't typically have to worry about accidentally ripping or creasing one.
I'm not entirely sold on the Evermeet reprint, but it does match incredibly closely. I'm just having problems figuring out why the EVERMEET?! Maybe I just don't WANT to beleive that they'd reissue that one...
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minatoman38
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| | 02/10/2006 1:41 AM |
| The tanned female figure with the blue dress looks like she has a slightly different pose than the Evermet Wizard. It could just be the blurriness but it seems that the right leg (on the side of the body carrying the bow) is extended too far out. The evermet wizard's leg on that side is completely straight.
Although I don't see why it wouldn't be the evermet other than not being a unique. Afterall if the set has a graycloak ranger then it stands to reason another non-unique archfiends figure would be logical as well. As for her being of limited use in the skirmish game with just this box set. I don't think they'd care. The purpose of the basic set is to introduce new players to the RPG game not skirmish game. If the figures are useful in skirmish then it is just a happy coincidence. | |
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| | 02/10/2006 2:06 AM |
| If you further stretch/shrink the image and get it approx. mini-sized you'll definitely see more than a passing resemblance to the Evermeet. It takes a bit of turning, but those lines and colors match up frightfully well (well, except that the blue goes where the pink should [)]).
I'd guess that they lined up the mini so that it would "face" directly towards the viewer.
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| | 02/10/2006 10:09 AM |
| | It's a basic game folks, what's wrong with the evermeet. It's a pretty little wizard that's been out of print for quite a while. This game is meant for noobs not ppl that are deep in to this stuff - BASIC game. And they were even nice enough to repaint it to at least make it different. Aweful nice of em wasn't it. [)] | |
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| | 02/10/2006 9:12 PM |
| I just don't like the Evermeet. Putting her in blue helps out some, but not enough.
It wouldn't have been too difficult to do entirely new sculpts or to find other minis to use. I'd rather see a reissue of Mina than the Evermeet.
Of course, it could just be that we've got the Cleric of Moradin, Greycloak Ranger and Evermeet Wizard as the "characters" and not actual Iconics. I would definitely prefer to see the Iconics. | |
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