Kunimatyu
Sergeant
724 Posts
    
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| According to the latest WotC update, War of the Dragon Queen will feature "varying degrees of rarity to enhance collectability".
Does this mean the set will have Very Rares, ala Star Wars? Or does it mean something different?
Some official confirmation on this would be good. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2350 Posts
Australia
| | 02/15/2006 6:33 PM |
| You mean like every set has had varying degrees of rarity (Rare, Uncommon & Common) so far?
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3840 Posts
Adelaide
| | 02/15/2006 6:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
According to the latest WotC update, War of the Dragon Queen will feature "varying degrees of rarity to enhance collectability".
Does this mean the set will have Very Rares, ala Star Wars? Or does it mean something different?
Some official confirmation on this would be good.
I hope not.
Hopefully just means the huge in each booster will be varying ie uncommon/rare. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
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| | 02/15/2006 6:36 PM |
| | I would assume that just means the rarities they have been using for DDM. I think it's just a general product describing the product, as a lot of that marketing is directed new purchasers. | |
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Cthulhufnord
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| | 02/15/2006 6:39 PM |
| Yeah we may very well be jumping the gun on this one.
quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
You mean like every set has had varying degrees of rarity (Rare, Uncommon & Common) so far?
Cheers!
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Planchet
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
724 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 6:47 PM |
| If the Aspects of Tiamat and Bahamut(yeah yeah I know, not confirmed yet) are Very Rares, I won't be that upset -- they're not nearly as useful as many other Huges. BUT, if the rumored Hydra is Very Rare, then it's on. It is on indeed.
Personally, I would hope that the set could be structured so that the 6 Huge Rares are simply part of the normal 24 Rares, and when you get a Huge Rare in a pack, they alter one of the uncommon slots that would normally give you one of the 6 Huge Uncommons to give you a normal uncommon. That's how I'd set it up. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 6:53 PM |
| | That is just marketing speak to describe the product. All DDM sets have varying degrees of rarity to enhance collectibility. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 6:59 PM |
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Originally posted by Planchet
God, I hope not. The inclusion of very rares would cause my very heart to stop beating.
Seriously, I hate this idea, as it just screws over RPGers.
I concur. If DDM switches to a chase rare type mentality you can forget new people coming in from the RPG angle. At least I wouldn't get into DDM. Maybe I am wrong about this and seeing it from a very tiny world.
I mean right now if a person gets three cases of a new set they have a really good chance of getting a spread of 12/6/1 of each "rarity" or at least I have this occur in the last three sets. Now I know there is going to be some variances and things don't always work out this way. But this seems like a pretty good system and I have been really happy with it thus far.
As to a change of rarity to affect some rares becoming "more" rare. In a way we have had that for a while. In reference to the mounted paly or the shuagin ranger (I know this is stated an UC but at the time it was pretty rare) compared to other rares or precieved rares like the skullsplitter.
TIme will tell but I agree that a change in the rarity would hamstring the RPG side of life. At least I "think" it would....
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MerricB
Underboss
2350 Posts
Australia
| | 02/15/2006 7:12 PM |
| I'm not worrying until I hear something definite.
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 7:14 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
You mean like every set has had varying degrees of rarity (Rare, Uncommon & Common) so far?
Cheers!
Indeed, but why would Shoe comment wotc write on something everyone is already well aware of and use the word 'enhance' which denotes a change.
enhancing the collectability...rats! [xx(] | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 02/15/2006 7:24 PM |
| | I hope he can say something. The exact distribution of WotDQ may be a secret for some time, yet. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2350 Posts
Australia
| | 02/15/2006 7:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by glumag
quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
You mean like every set has had varying degrees of rarity (Rare, Uncommon & Common) so far?
Cheers!
Indeed, but why would Shoe comment on something everyone is already well aware of and use the word 'enhance' which denotes a change.
Could you tell me when Shoe's commented on this issue? The title is to indicate that we'd like Stephen to comment on it.
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 7:32 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
quote:
Originally posted by glumag
quote:
Originally posted by MerricB
You mean like every set has had varying degrees of rarity (Rare, Uncommon & Common) so far?
Cheers!
Indeed, but why would Shoe comment on something everyone is already well aware of and use the word 'enhance' which denotes a change.
Could you tell me when Shoe's commented on this issue? The title is to indicate that we'd like Stephen to comment on it.
Cheers!
You are right, I missed the ?. My bad. My comment still apllies to the wotc write up tho [)] | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
724 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 7:35 PM |
| | Right. I'll add a comma in the title to make that more clear. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
5797 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 7:37 PM |
| | Perhaps there will be common/uncommon/rare huges. 3 common, 2 uncommon and 1 rare per case of 6 boosters for instance. This might be a better solution than what GoL had. It also might explain the "varying" rarity, as the booster contents will not be able to be defined in a quick blurb. | |
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Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 7:49 PM |
| Where'd the quote in the initial post come from?
If I were to comment on this, I'd say you guys have nothing to worry about.
We mentioned at Gen Con that if we did Huges again, we'd do distribution differently. That hasn't changed. or did change. or something. It's different.
How different? Can't say just yet. maybe next week, maybe April. You'll have plenty of time to make an informed decision.
But if I weren't to comment on this, I'd say: | |
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yack
Commander
3161 Posts
Ottawa, Canada
| | 02/15/2006 8:00 PM |
| | huh I'm lost.... this better not be very rares. I really hope we are jumping the gun on this.[:(!] | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2290 Posts
Toronto
| | 02/15/2006 8:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Shoe
Where'd the quote in the initial post come from?
If I were to comment on this, I'd say you guys have nothing to worry about.
We mentioned at Gen Con that if we did Huges again, we'd do distribution differently. That hasn't changed. or did change. or something. It's different.
How different? Can't say just yet. maybe next week, maybe April. You'll have plenty of time to make an informed decision.
But if I weren't to comment on this, I'd say:
Thanks for answering the question...in your own way. [)]
I just figured people were jumping the gun on this one. (in other words reading into things way too much.) | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 8:07 PM |
| Ahhh, a shoefirmation...time to end the hunger stirke....j/k it is time for me to eat anyway....
Thanks shoe for putting this one to bed..... EARLY [:D] | |
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glauron
Underboss
1379 Posts
Sydney, Australia
| | 02/15/2006 8:42 PM |
| Can we put this down to one of those storms in a teacup?
I'm glad Shoe came through with the unspoken clarification.
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 8:43 PM |
| Almost everytime a new set comes out someone sees a hint of something somewhere that makes them think ultra rares are going to start.
I don't know anything about the star wars minis but they appear to have made some of the players very paranoid with reguards to ultrarare chase minis.
I am glad DDM isn't doing this. | | | |
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IHawk
Underboss
1049 Posts
Lisle, Illinois
| | 02/15/2006 8:54 PM |
| I am pretty curious about the distribution on this one.
60 figs, 12 of them huge and only 8 per box...the
computations are going on like crazy in my head...
how many uncommons, are there rares, large, commmons,
huge uncommons
buzz....boom.
Ok I will have to wait like everyone else. | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4135 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 9:49 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Shoe
Where'd the quote in the initial post come from?
If I were to comment on this, I'd say you guys have nothing to worry about.
We mentioned at Gen Con that if we did Huges again, we'd do distribution differently. That hasn't changed. or did change. or something. It's different.
How different? Can't say just yet. maybe next week, maybe April. You'll have plenty of time to make an informed decision.
But if I weren't to comment on this, I'd say:
Excellent. I am really looking forward to this set. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4803 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 02/15/2006 10:00 PM |
| Chase Rares = Bad [:(]
Better Huge distribution = Good [:)]
Let's hope that if anything this is a commentary about changing up the distribution to something better than GOL. | |
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Planchet
Underboss
1896 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 11:02 PM |
| quote:
Excellent. I am really looking forward to this set.
I agree completely, Lab Monkey. I haven't been as excited about a set since Dk, so I'd hate for something like chase rares to come along and ruin it for me.
Again Shoe, thank you! | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 11:13 PM |
| wotdq booster = $19.99
chase rares = anger management sessions $125
getting worked up over a descriptive general wotc quote = ulcers
shoefirmation = pleasingly priceless!
thx! [:D] | |
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devasque
Sergeant
874 Posts
| | 02/15/2006 11:32 PM |
| | Well its good to know for sure. They try something like that and the general populace might go all fire, pitchforks and Frankenstein monster on WoTC. Still got to wonder, if the huges have a different setup and we're down to 8 minis in a box, what exactly they've got cooking. (wondering off to get a hold on my horses) | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 12:06 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Jeeze ... I step away for a while and you guys go all crazy-monkey-bonkers.
I wouldn't freak out until there's REASON to freak out.
This idea of yours is interesting: An internet community NOT going knee-jerk berserk when shown vague wording?
P-shaw and balderdash.
Besides, that'd take away half of my fun![)]
Naw. While there might be reason to keep informed, there's no need for any tar or feathers just yet.
Hmmm. A three tiered Huge rarity scheme? 3 Rares, 3 Uncommons, and 6 Commons? 2-4-6?
The mind reels. There are too many possible combinations. It's best to wait a while longer. Hopefully Shoe (or someone else official) will be able to clarify in a couple weeks.
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Sir Bozak The Damned
Commander
2854 Posts
Québec
| | 02/16/2006 12:14 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
Chase Rares = Bad [:(]
Better Huge distribution = Good [:)]
Let's hope that if anything this is a commentary about changing up the distribution to something better than GOL.
You read my mind zentrus...No more 6:1 UC huge, pleeeeeeeeeeease !!!![B)] | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4135 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 12:26 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
You read my mind zentrus...No more 6:1 UC huge, pleeeeeeeeeeease !!!![B)]
It was never 6:1 UC huge to R huge. It was 3:1. I opened 3 cases of GoL and I'm positive that this is true. | |
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LCS
Underboss
1867 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 12:28 AM |
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"varying degrees of rarity to enhance collectability" == C, U, H, R ?
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Sir Bozak The Damned
Commander
2854 Posts
Québec
| | 02/16/2006 12:29 AM |
| | I opened 4, I had none, my friend 2 or 3, none...And at 19.99 U$...I really hope they make buying a case and not singles on eBay worth it... | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4803 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 02/16/2006 1:08 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
Chase Rares = Bad [:(]
Better Huge distribution = Good [:)]
Let's hope that if anything this is a commentary about changing up the distribution to something better than GOL.
You read my mind zentrus...No more 6:1 UC huge, pleeeeeeeeeeease !!!![B)]
That's because I can read minds [p]
I would love to see the nifty huge minis (read Bahamut [likely] and Tiamat [confirmed]) not end up costing at least $30 as singles (like the HRD/HGD). | |
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Sir Bozak The Damned
Commander
2854 Posts
Québec
| | 02/16/2006 1:10 AM |
| | Buy them as early as you can. I know I will [:D] | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3176 Posts
Netherlands
| | 02/16/2006 2:15 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by LCS
"varying degrees of rarity to enhance collectability" == C, U, H, R ?
this would be very nice, would let them make each Huge worthwile (more dragons!).
D. | |
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psistef
Underboss
1572 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 8:04 AM |
| "Following War of the Dragon Queen, Wizards of the Coast will be focusing on tighter gameplay with Dwarven Forge - an all new Dungeons and Dragons Miniatures set focusing on the 50 point play environment, as detailed in the recently released Wardrums rulebook update".
Pretty weird huh? Found this floating around the web.
Here's something else I heard, 43 per cent of all people make up statistics. [)]
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 02/16/2006 8:14 AM |
| Interesting thing about the DF stuff, if true. Makes me wonder about the future of true "3D" adventures....
psistef, wheere was that rumor floating around at? Sounds very cool.... | |
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