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03/07/2006 8:02 PM  
is here: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/ddm_opesc_200602.zip

Thanks to Dylman666 who posted on WoTC board.
Doesnt appear to have made it to the wizards mini front page :/


Edit: Opps, it's not Soth, its Mordy of course [:I]

Thanks Tactician :)

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03/07/2006 8:09 PM  
Sorry that is mordie

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03/07/2006 9:09 PM  
Thanks for the link. Did it ever get a post on the WotC site saying it was available for download?

*edit* guess it wasnt ever on the main page

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03/07/2006 10:53 PM  
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Originally posted by True_Blue

Thanks for the link. Did it ever get a post on the WotC site saying it was available for download?

*edit* guess it wasnt ever on the main page



Not that I saw. Frug knows how Dylman666 found it.

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03/07/2006 11:00 PM  
Nice find. I managed to pick up Lolth at a tournament but alas no February/March retailer kits here yet.

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03/07/2006 11:14 PM  
That's odd... Dylman gets credit for something I've been posting on the WotC boards since the 2nd (Of course, I can't really take credit either, since I got it off an article posted by gideonan on Merric's site Feb 27)...
http://www.3rdedition.org/merricb/article.asp?id=1504

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03/07/2006 11:59 PM  
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Originally posted by Carlson

That's odd... Dylman gets credit for something I've been posting on the WotC boards since the 2nd (Of course, I can't really take credit either, since I got it off an article posted by gideonan on Merric's site Feb 27)...
http://www.3rdedition.org/merricb/article.asp?id=1504


If I am reposting someone elses stuff, I always try and mention where I (or they if said) got the information. I must of missed your earlier post on wizards board.
No slight intended.

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03/08/2006 12:54 AM  
Anyone else notice when you open the file it's the aspect of Loth's stat card for a second?

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03/08/2006 1:22 AM  
uh lol, no I didnt notice that at all. That is very weird. Kind of freaky, maybe the AoL is hidden in there somewhere heh.

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03/08/2006 1:30 AM  
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03/08/2006 3:42 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhufnord

Anyone else notice when you open the file it's the aspect of Loth's stat card for a second?



How very strange. I just tried it and you're right. Darn gremlins.

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03/08/2006 3:50 AM  
I really wonder why it does that..if they just used the AoL and put it over it? But would it do that?

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03/08/2006 7:33 AM  
Most likely it's the exact same file as the Lolth card, and all they did was overlay Mody's card overtop. Another corner cut it seems...

Did they at least fix the Independant 'typo' or did they not bother?
Course, I suppose it would make sence if they didn't, to keep it in line with the current card.

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03/08/2006 11:14 AM  
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Most likely it's the exact same file as the Lolth card, and all they did was overlay Mody's card overtop. Another corner cut it seems...

Did they at least fix the Independant 'typo' or did they not bother?
Course, I suppose it would make sence if they didn't, to keep it in line with the current card.


That is exactly what they did, but only with the front of the card. Odd.

No edit or update. It seems like they actually used a scan of the card rather then the original print files to make these PDFs.

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03/08/2006 11:48 AM  
at least it seems to be better quality this time and at least we are 2 for 2 on their promptness, hope it last thru the entire promotion...I hate for it to be as dead as the tile updates were.

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03/08/2006 12:26 PM  
The promptness of having it up is really the important thing. The quality I can deal with. I'm still afraid that these epic cards will go the way of the Tiles..and we wont see as much continual support of someone putting them on the web.

Their support of Chainmail equivelencies has drastically gone down. And thats not even that hard to do either.. you just take a blank card and add the stats. Done.

So hopefully this will be a new trend of the cards always being up =).

Also, for the record, I dont think the Independent thing is a type. I think something will come out that will make Mordy glad he has that =). Like something that takes away a peice from being a commander..

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03/08/2006 1:42 PM  
I tried twice and did not see lolth at all.

Thanks for the link though.

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03/08/2006 1:46 PM  
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I tried twice and did not see lolth at all.

Thanks for the link though.

It blinks in less than one second. I recommend you close acrobat (reader) and double click the file but have your eyes fixated on where you know the location is that the Mordy stat side is, you'll see it briefly. It is layered in there.

It just shows one of the many allegiances Mordy has [)]

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03/08/2006 1:53 PM  
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It blinks in less than one second. I recommend you close acrobat (reader) and double click the file but have your eyes fixated on where you know the location is that the Mordy stat side is, you'll see it briefly. It is layered in there.


You can also take the PDF file and disassemble it, isolating the layers, moving Mordy out of the way, and actually seeing the Lolth card beneath.

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03/08/2006 1:55 PM  
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quote:
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It blinks in less than one second. I recommend you close acrobat (reader) and double click the file but have your eyes fixated on where you know the location is that the Mordy stat side is, you'll see it briefly. It is layered in there.


You can also take the PDF file and disassemble it, isolating the layers, moving Mordy out of the way, and actually seeing the Lolth card beneath.
Yup, but that's assuming you have Acrobat, and not just the Reader [)]

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03/08/2006 1:57 PM  
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quote:
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It blinks in less than one second. I recommend you close acrobat (reader) and double click the file but have your eyes fixated on where you know the location is that the Mordy stat side is, you'll see it briefly. It is layered in there.


You can also take the PDF file and disassemble it, isolating the layers, moving Mordy out of the way, and actually seeing the Lolth card beneath.
Yup, but that's assuming you have Acrobat, and not just the Reader [)]



So true... with just the reader you can't do a whole lot.

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03/08/2006 2:06 PM  
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Yup, but that's assuming you have Acrobat, and not just the Reader [)]


Actually, no. I didn't use Acrobat. Any other guesses? [)]

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03/08/2006 2:16 PM  
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quote:
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Yup, but that's assuming you have Acrobat, and not just the Reader [)]
Actually, no. I didn't use Acrobat. Any other guesses? [)]

I was refering to the general masses and the percentage of users with the reader. There's a bunch of them decompilers out there. EPC?


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03/08/2006 2:34 PM  
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There's a bunch of them decompilers out there. EPC?


Sorry, I have no idea what that means.

All I did was open it up in Illustrator. It allows you to manipluate the elements to your heart's content, and to extract embedded vector images (like the Wardrums set icon) to your heart's content.

Speaking of which, anyone want a scaleable eps file of the Wardrums set icon, or indeed does anyone want to host said file if there is an interest in it?

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03/08/2006 2:37 PM  
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quote:
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There's a bunch of them decompilers out there. EPC?


Sorry, I have no idea what that means.

All I did was open it up in Illustrator. It allows you to manipluate the elements to your heart's content, and to extract embedded vector images (like the Wardrums set icon) to your heart's content.
Yup, Photoshop opens up PDFs as well, I just never liked the way the manipulated things back into PDF.

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03/08/2006 4:14 PM  
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Yup, Photoshop opens up PDFs as well, I just never liked the way the manipulated things back into PDF.


Photoshop normally doesn't maintain the layers both when saving a new file or when opening an old one. You need a vector-baed program, like Illustrator, to see what's in behind.

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03/08/2006 4:50 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by glumag

at least it seems to be better quality this time and at least we are 2 for 2 on their promptness, hope it last thru the entire promotion...I hate for it to be as dead as the tile updates were.


Hmm despite the fact that we have the card, that was by devious means. It still is not up as a link on the wizard's page, or officially announced.
They still do have a few days to keep thier dead line iirc.

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03/08/2006 5:14 PM  
I think Ian said specifically that it would be posted the Thursday of the first full week of March. which isn't until tomorrow.

In fact, the reason that it was on the website to find indicates that they probably had it all set up and ready to go live tomorrow as far back as the middle of last month.

(edit) source: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=584480
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