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04/18/2006 9:34 AM  
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Talk about drifting off topic... [:P]



Bringing it back.............Wow, me bringing a topic BACK on topic. Go figure

Anyway, some are displeased with Tiamat. Poor misguided souls that they are. Even if you will never use her, she makes a good Hydra proxy.



Then give us a Hydra! Razafrazingrumblemumble

Although Tiamat is a beauty.

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04/18/2006 10:08 AM  
I am amazed at the differeing oppinions on Tiamat. Some think she is bad, and others think she is great.

Personally I like the sculpt and paint job and will be very pleased to pull one.

As for the topic, would Tiamat fit in the LE/CE build as we already have a solid LE with the Blue Dracolich? Just a thought on alignments and all.

I would also love to see some of the Red Hand pieces find their way in as well.

The Blackspawn was an exicutioner/exterminator/ ex something... if my hazy memory still recalls.

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04/18/2006 10:15 AM  
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...as we already have a solid LE with the Blue Dracolich?


Really? The lich is CE, and undead are often LE/CE, we don't even know that it is for certain a lich and not just a skeletal dragon (ok the lightning breath might be a giveaway)... so, I wouldn't say it's a "gauranteed/solid" LE.

As for the possibility of Tiamat being CE? That'd be wrong. She's listed as LE everywhere, there is no doubt from my point of view that she will be LE.


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04/18/2006 10:31 AM  
Nightmare is CE

I would put Nightmare with Anti-paladin in the CE camp.


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04/18/2006 11:35 PM  
According to the Monster Manual (pg. 194), Nightmares are "Always neutral evil"--Meaning that a Nightmare, by itself, could end up in either LE or CE or LE/CE.

As far as the likely mini goes...Well, I guess it depends on whether or not it is actually mounted. I know the box art shows a rider. Still, we've had mounted minis for LG, CE, and CG--that leaves LE out. The Nightmare is pretty heavy on special abilities and it looks to be relatively light on damage with a decent AC (LE all the way).

Logic tells me to go with LE on this one.

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04/18/2006 11:38 PM  
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I would also love to see some of the Red Hand pieces find their way in as well.

The Blackspawn was an exicutioner/exterminator/ ex something... if my hazy memory still recalls.



Blackspawn Raider
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I would like to see all three as well as the Blue Abishai...well, basically the vast majority of the stuff in RHoD would be cool (Ghost lions, Hydra, etc.).

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04/19/2006 9:52 AM  
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...as we already have a solid LE with the Blue Dracolich?


Really? The lich is CE, and undead are often LE/CE, we don't even know that it is for certain a lich and not just a skeletal dragon (ok the lightning breath might be a giveaway)... so, I wouldn't say it's a "gauranteed/solid" LE.

As for the possibility of Tiamat being CE? That'd be wrong. She's listed as LE everywhere, there is no doubt from my point of view that she will be LE.



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04/19/2006 9:56 AM  
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Originally posted by greyhaze

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Originally posted by striderlotr

...as we already have a solid LE with the Blue Dracolich?


Really? The lich is CE, and undead are often LE/CE, we don't even know that it is for certain a lich and not just a skeletal dragon (ok the lightning breath might be a giveaway)... so, I wouldn't say it's a "gauranteed/solid" LE.

As for the possibility of Tiamat being CE? That'd be wrong. She's listed as LE everywhere, there is no doubt from my point of view that she will be LE.





Shoot, OK, I messed up sry, On page 147 in the draconomicon, there is a sample dracolich, an "Ancient Blue Dracolich" it's alignment is LE.

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04/19/2006 10:10 AM  
I think that the Nightmare will be LE with a Blackguard rider.

I also feel that the Huge Blue Draco-skel/lich will be LE, I was just saying that IF either the HBDS/L or Tiamat were NOT LE it'd be the HBDS/L rather than Tiamat. [:D]


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04/19/2006 10:40 AM  
Ok, go on and laugh at me for what I'll say, but I just have to say it: that picture is on the exact same pose as the picture of Tempus riding his black dire stallion Deiros on FR's Faiths and Pantheons. Even the axe is on the same position. Now, I'm not saying that an Avatar of Tempus will be on WotDQ, but hey, how much would that rock? It would be the second best thing, right after an Avatar of Torm mounted on his gold dragon...

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04/19/2006 11:15 AM  
Tempus'd be cool. But, maybe you're on to something, maybe this will have many many Aspects... after all it's a deific war right? Need deities on all sides to fight other deities. Maybe this will be our "dwarf" or "drow" set, but instead it's with "aspects". Someone mentioned that the huge black dragon looked like it was mounted, maybe it's mounted by some deity.


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04/19/2006 12:02 PM  
If they put all the cool figures into LE there will be allot of pissed off players. They have to throw CE/CG a few bones.


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04/19/2006 1:23 PM  
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If they put all the cool figures into LE there will be allot of pissed off players. They have to throw CE/CG a few bones.



How about throwing LG a bone too???

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04/19/2006 1:29 PM  
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I think that the Nightmare will be LE with a Blackguard rider.

I also feel that the Huge Blue Draco-skel/lich will be LE, I was just saying that IF either the HBDS/L or Tiamat were NOT LE it'd be the HBDS/L rather than Tiamat. [:D]



I was just thinking that maybe there was a way to make one of those big two a multi so that either faction could use it. I completely understand the points and the logic though.

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04/19/2006 1:49 PM  
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If they put all the cool figures into LE there will be allot of pissed off players. They have to throw CE/CG a few bones.



??? So far, only 2 huges and speculatively are LE. Tiamat and Dracolich. The Nightmare, yah, that's cool, but it's not huge that we know of...

... beside last huge set, GoL, there were exactly ZERO LE exclusive huges. The Bulette and Warfudge Titan were the two accessible ones. One was useless in skirmish, the other was Warfudged.


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04/19/2006 3:49 PM  
Don't Count the Blackguard as LE yet, Blackguards can be any Evil, it depends (possibly) on the creatures race (that is the blackguard) a bugbear blackguard will probably be CE, while a dwarf blackguard would most likely be LE (since most dwarves are lawful including the evil ones).


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04/20/2006 1:53 PM  
Hello,

So, I am wondering if we are fixating too much on the Aspect of Bahaumut too much. What about if the mystery figure on the DDM website as linked on the list is something else.

OK, pure speculation here.

Ancient Silver Dragon

They are huge, right? And they would come first alphabetically in the LG list.

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04/20/2006 2:37 PM  
From preview 1: Purple Worm (uncommon, huge), Storm Archer (33 pts, uncommon, probably CG), and Azer Fighter (common, probably LG/LE)
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04/20/2006 2:38 PM  
already on it

Posted By WakeXX on 09/25/2006 4:49 AM
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04/20/2006 2:42 PM  
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From preview 1: Purple Worm (uncommon, huge)


The worm is described as chaotic in Shoe's preview.

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04/20/2006 3:55 PM  

I can say for certain that the Purple worm you see in that pic is VERY imposing looking in person too. I was hoping that sucker would get added soon.

Thanks for the memories. :)

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04/20/2006 3:57 PM  
How am I doing so far? Feedback? Anything I should drop/add?

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04/21/2006 7:00 AM  
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How am I doing so far? Feedback? Anything I should drop/add?



Doing great, looking good. wouldn't use bold for the entries though. a bit too much for me.

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04/24/2006 10:59 PM  
DJ, I'll sticky this after things die down a bit.

Gimme a few days, but let's wait and let the other things drop off a bit.

Besides, once the WOTC folks post that composite pick you'll have a few more things to discuss for the list, nacht?

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04/24/2006 11:02 PM  
And I still don't think that one is an Aspect of Bahamut ... looks more like a (whatever that draconimicon dragon was)

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04/24/2006 11:05 PM  
Thank you Chris. Sorry. I will not add Jet Fuel to the fire. And I won't stand near it either. I'm 100% flamable. I've been watching what I've been saying. I just enjoy making these Scry threads. I'm sorta against promoting any other websites with the spoilers. I'm Pro-Maxminis.

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04/25/2006 1:11 PM  
Look in the gallery for the url to the faction symbols ... they are on the mocked-up stat cards.

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04/25/2006 1:26 PM  
Ok done, I'm trying to think If i could tweak this anymore

Any Suggestions?

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04/25/2006 2:13 PM  
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/draco_gallery/75600.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mi_checklist_sm.jpg

They look quite similar. :P (this is Sacred Warder of Bahamut)

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04/25/2006 2:17 PM  
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Anyone Know where these pictures were found?

Huge Fiendish Spider

SPECULATION:
Chaos Beast
Crimson Ooze
Invisible Stalker
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the spider is the promised pre-release mini, I think it was confirmed at winter fantasy.

the other ones are hints from Fields of ruin

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04/25/2006 2:19 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Hejas

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/draco_gallery/75600.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mi_checklist_sm.jpg

They look quite similar. :P (this is Sacred Warder of Bahamut)



Is a huge silver from the draconomicon, right? do indeed look similar. I hope you are right!

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04/25/2006 2:23 PM  
I just found unexpected info about the Blackguard that IS in this set from a post in the Dreamblade forum:

http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17087

"7) Transparents. We have figured out how to do transparent minis for a reasonable price. D&D minis will benefit from this first as Shoe has already stated elsewhere. The blackguard in War of the Dragon Queen is a good example."

This is from Mike Donais, so I'd say that's DEFINITELY confirmed.

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04/25/2006 2:24 PM  
imagine it was a tiny dragon... [:p]
there is a chance....

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04/25/2006 2:42 PM  
The Question is, is it mounted or not?

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04/25/2006 2:50 PM  
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The Question is, is it mounted or not?



I've seen it posted that he's on the nightmare....
which would explain the clear plastic... ie flames on nightmare

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04/25/2006 3:38 PM  
One of the things that the "Sacred Warder of Bahamut" does, if it is the actual name, is open up the #1 to a different Huge.

As obviously Sacred Warder isn't going to be #1.

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04/26/2006 12:51 PM  
Just a s a side note, and I could be wrong, but when everyone is numbering the set didn't GoL number all the nonhuge minis together and then number all the huge minis at the end? So huges would not fit into a numbering scheme until numbers 48-60.

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04/26/2006 12:55 PM  
quote:
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Just a s a side note, and I could be wrong, but when everyone is numbering the set didn't GoL number all the nonhuge minis together and then number all the huge minis at the end? So huges would not fit into a numbering scheme until numbers 48-60.



Shoe said somewhere that this time around the huges are being incorporated alphabetically into the regular set list. Which is why we have the Aspect of Bahamut debate constantly as of late.

Course, that could just mean that the Huges start the list this time [:0]

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04/27/2006 12:57 AM  
add bluespawn godslayer and blackspawn exterminator (preview 2)

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04/27/2006 4:44 AM  
Also add from preview 2
Three other spawn of Tiamat:
(probably) Greenspawn Razorfiend (Large LE)
Redspawn something (CE)
Whitespawn someting (CE)

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