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Shoe
Sergeant
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Originally posted by PatEllis15
Shoe, Ian:
Limited play at WotDQ. We've realized that we have a "bit" of an issue with the MaxMini's event at GenCon. Namely, with GoL boosters, we told players that they could bring a booster, and keep their huge, and just draft with the 8 standard figures.
This isn't possible with WotDQ, as there are only 7 standard figures.
Have you given this any thought? Is there a way that you recommend utilizing WotDQ for 200 pt sealed events? Are there other issues that we don't know about (i.e. several King Snurre type figures that aren't really appropriate for 200 pt play to begin with) that further make this set inappropriate for 200 pt limited play?
Thanks in advance!
Pat E
WotDQ will work for Sealed play - with 2 boosters you can theoretically play either 500-point sealed or 200-point sealed. If you happen to pull the lowest-cost creatures in all slots in both your boosters, then it is possible that your 500-point army might end up a bit short, which is why for the prereleases we're allowing the use of the promo mini in warband construction. 200-point sealed is a little better, and at worst you might end up 10 points short.
The best 200-point Sealed experience, however, is likely a War Drums starter/booster and a WotDQ booster.
WotDQ can still work for 200-point draft, but the player that brings that booster would only get one pick from that booster (beyond the Huge, which he'd presumably keep). In that sense, it may provide better choice if the drafters dumped the contents of both of their boosters, then picking from the resultant pile of 14 or 15 minis. Those that choose first (and sometimes second) - well, they end up not picking the **** ****** or ****** ****** from the last common slots, but they likely took the rares or best uncommons with the first choice.
All non-huge figures have a non-epic stat card, which would be used in a Limited 200-point game. | |
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agcooper1
Sneak
128 Posts
| | 05/04/2006 3:35 PM |
| | What's the word on Chainmail equivalencies? Are they coming or are they dead? | | | |
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Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:16 AM |
| This was actually just mentioned (within the last couple weeks) on the WotC boards. In one thread mdonais volunteered to pass on the request if specific cards were requested.
I'm hoping we see some soon.
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 05/05/2006 1:30 AM |
| Ian,
is there any chance that the Tournament finder on the DCI site could list non-sanctioned events? For example, league play and open game days?
Thanks,
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Talafenix
Sneak
128 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 12:46 PM |
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Originally posted by lalato
Ian,
is there any chance that the Tournament finder on the DCI site could list non-sanctioned events? For example, league play and open game days?
Thanks,
--sam
Sadly not as it's not built to track those events. You can find locations taking retail kits though as they will be listed under the retailer locator.
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Venport
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738 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 12:56 PM |
| | For the WOTDQ Pre-Release event. Is it going to be clear to the Store that the HUGE spider promo i leagel to use? The Store that runs our events dose not fallow any DDM info except was is set to him. | |
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Zaukrie
Underboss
2007 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 3:48 PM |
| | Shoe, why is the one castle map that has at least 3 squares of passage everywhere not an epic map (I'm at work and can't remember the name)? | |
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 05/05/2006 4:00 PM |
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Originally posted by Talafenix
Sadly not as it's not built to track those events. You can find locations taking retail kits though as they will be listed under the retailer locator.
Ian
Ian,
I checked the Retailer Locator, but I couldn't find any stores that listed having Retail Kits. I did, however, see stores that had Organized Play of one kind or another. Am I missing something?
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Professional Fan of DDM
Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 4:51 PM |
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Originally posted by Zaukrie
Shoe, why is the one castle map that has at least 3 squares of passage everywhere not an epic map (I'm at work and can't remember the name)?
Keep of Fallen Kings I.
Oversight. The map, when first drawn and tested, looked slightly different, and wasn't entirely epic-able. A few walls were moved, and it became as you see it. We didn't re-evaluate it for Epic playability. The only concern I'd have on the map is that one statue standing all alone - While it doesn't look like much, it significantly impacts the available positions for Huge creatures.
It's probably fine for Epic, though - I'll bring it up with the gang and discuss adding it to the floor rules. | |
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Zaukrie
Underboss
2007 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 4:53 PM |
| That would be great. I love Epic, and the more maps the better. I think this one has some things that are quite different than other epic maps, and would like to see if I'm right (against other adults, not just against myself or my kids!).
Great maps in that set, btw. I really like them a lot. I just wish constructs weren't so big in the meta right now, I love that blood rock map. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 5:12 PM |
| Alright, I am going to ask the heretical question.....
The Chainmail minis. Will those molds ever be sold off to a third party to be made again. Or are they the lost figures....
Sorry, just had to ask as there are quite a few people that like the old minis.....thanks, as always....
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:07 PM |
| Ian:
A very significant clarrification was just made to the DDM rules regarding cover of large creatures in forest squares.
At several significant DDM events, the exact source of rules clarifications hasn't always been known by the event organizers. Will a letter/fax/e-mail be sent to all the organizers of the DDM Qualifiers directing the Organizers/Judges as to where the latest, and Official clarifications can be found?
I'm most concerend that to date, there is still no link for the D&D Miniatures home, FAQ, Errata, or Tournament page to Guy's Official Clarrifications. (please correct me if I'm wrong... I just checked again, and still can't find a link...)
Can you make sure that the Organizers know where to find this info?
Pat E | |
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:20 PM |
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Originally posted by Talafenix
Themed:
Each day we have a list of themed warbands. 70 percent have to be of that type the rest have to be infaction. Example: Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, Surface Elves. 140 point have to be spent on that Type the rest would be within the faction. Non-faction types could be drafted IF allowable by command abilities. Example: Any Orc is allowed in your warband - allowing Krusk to be with your Orc Champions(illustrative only).
The following day maybe: Dwarves, Abberations, Outsiders, Drow.
You get the idea.
Winners are both for the individual tournament and overall event. With a winning faction/Type. Could you pilot the Dwarves to dominate the world?
That could be really fun! I see the potential to throw a bone to the old chainmail players by recreating the old factions. | | | |
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:26 PM |
| | Shoe any chance that you can comment on plans for the next huge set? Will we be seeing them more often? There seems to be a huge cry for certain minis, that will take two or more years to come to us if the current "schedule" is held to. | | | |
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guyf
Sergeant
545 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:30 PM |
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Originally posted by PatEllis15
I'm most concerend that to date, there is still no link for the D&D Miniatures home, FAQ, Errata, or Tournament page to Guy's Official Clarrifications. (please correct me if I'm wrong... I just checked again, and still can't find a link...)
Can you make sure that the Organizers know where to find this info?
I don't think asking organizers to go to a non-WotC page is the right solution. That would be a stop-gap measure for the real issue: Stuff from my page needs to get pushed into the FAQ faster than it is today. I blame myself, mostly, but my life's priorities are somewhat different than they were a year ago [:)]
Now, something that would be awesome is a way for me to update the FAQ and downloadable rulebook directly, without having to go through various other processes. I wouldn't even need my clarifications page any more. | |
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Professional Fan of DDM
Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Runelord151
Shoe any chance that you can comment on plans for the next huge set? Will we be seeing them more often? There seems to be a huge cry for certain minis, that will take two or more years to come to us if the current "schedule" is held to.
we can only comment on our current schedule. | |
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Runelord151
Underboss
1203 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Shoe
quote:
Originally posted by Runelord151
Shoe any chance that you can comment on plans for the next huge set? Will we be seeing them more often? There seems to be a huge cry for certain minis, that will take two or more years to come to us if the current "schedule" is held to.
we can only comment on our current schedule.
How about a rewording? Non-official, would you, Shoe, like to make more sets huge? Or better yet, what is the best set to oversee as manager of the DDM brand? Starter, huge, 100pt, 200pt? | | | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:51 PM |
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Originally posted by guyf
I don't think asking organizers to go to a non-WotC page is the right solution. That would be a stop-gap measure for the real issue: Stuff from my page needs to get pushed into the FAQ faster than it is today. I blame myself, mostly, but my life's priorities are somewhat different than they were a year ago [:)]
Now, something that would be awesome is a way for me to update the FAQ and downloadable rulebook directly, without having to go through various other processes. I wouldn't even need my clarifications page any more.
Fairly stated Guy.
However, your rulings are "official" as official can be. There needs to be SOME mechanism for official tournament organizers to know that. Likely 75% of such locations have a person who does know it. But issues do come up. At a Qualifier last year (at Utah?!) someone was convinced that the line for splitting the map went the long way, rather than the short way on the map.
If there were a way for you to update the FAQ on the run, that would be terrific!
Pat E | |
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Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 10:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
Alright, I am going to ask the heretical question.....
The Chainmail minis. Will those molds ever be sold off to a third party to be made again. Or are they the lost figures....
And, were they to be sold, would it be possible to get a "ballpark" figure of the value (i.e. a few bucks, a few hundred, a few thousand, or sell a kidney...)?
I'm very worried that the Chainmail masters are no longer "safe"...[v] | |
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Grim
Sergeant
482 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 11:29 PM |
| | I'm curious as to how the design team determines the themes for miniature sets and the figures included in them? Is there some form of in-house poll or focus group that happens to make these kinds of decisions? Thank you. | |
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Professional Fan of DDM
Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 12:01 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Grim
I'm curious as to how the design team determines the themes for miniature sets and the figures included in them? Is there some form of in-house poll or focus group that happens to make these kinds of decisions? Thank you.
It's a lengthy response - and something Matt Sernett and I will address in an upcoming article on the website. Give us a few weeks to get rolling, and we'll provide as much of an explanation as we can.
For that matter, many of the other answered and currently open questions have been added to the list of topics we'll cover. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 1:03 PM |
| I am sorry if this has already been asked but I can't keep track.
Now that "clear" plastic is being introduced into the DDM line, will we see it implemented in "flying" creatures to give the appeareance of actual levitation? instead of the black studs for a beholder, vargouille, etc. | |
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lalato
Underboss
1546 Posts
Urbana, IL
| | 05/08/2006 8:52 AM |
| Ian,
Is there any chance that individual profiles on the DCI Ratings & Rankings page can be linked to the Private Messaging feature on the WotC forums? Due privacy rules, players would have to opt-in for this, of course.
It would be great to be able to contact a player via PM (without sharing e-mail addressses) in order to set up tournaments and other events.
--sam | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 05/08/2006 10:11 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by guyf
I don't think asking organizers to go to a non-WotC page is the right solution. That would be a stop-gap measure for the real issue: Stuff from my page needs to get pushed into the FAQ faster than it is today. I blame myself, mostly, but my life's priorities are somewhat different than they were a year ago [:)]
Now, something that would be awesome is a way for me to update the FAQ and downloadable rulebook directly, without having to go through various other processes. I wouldn't even need my clarifications page any more.
What, increasing your family size cutting into the gaming time... welcome to my world....
Guy, the rules you have FAQed or had errata on are official and something I turn to when I have a question, so why would a tournament organizer not need access to them? | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4462 Posts
| | 05/08/2006 11:05 AM |
| Ian:
Your not off the hook yet! [:p]
So, in addition to my question about getting Guy's Clarrifications into the hands of the Qualifier Organizers, another issue has come up.
If you wade through the last 3 pages of the Utah Qualifier thread on in the Tournaments section, you'll see a bit of a storm brewing.
It really revolves not around anyone's actions, but that as set up, there is the potential for a handful of people to qualify at a large number of events, and artificially limit the pool of players who end up getting invites for the Championship. No one thinks that it should be against the rules to play in more than one event if you didn't win one yet, but I think that the majority of people think that if you made top 4 at one event, and you make top 4 at another, that the invite that you get from that second event should get passed down.
Seems like your intent was to have 4 invites from each qualifier, and likely, you were hoping that about 50% of the total invites would end up going to Gen COn. By not passing down the invites, your likely endin gup with a smaller pool of potential competitors for the Championship.
Is there anyway to change the rule for this year? Is this something you would think about moving forward?
Pat E | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10288 Posts
United States
| | 05/08/2006 11:12 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
No one thinks that it should be against the rules to play in more than one event if you didn't win one yet, but I think that the majority of people think that if you made top 4 at one event, and you make top 4 at another, that the invite that you get from that second event should get passed down.
I'm 100% in agreement with this. (Could it be because I was 5th in a qualifier last year? No. The top player at that event dropped out and let others in because he'd already qualified--he did the honorable thing. It's because it's maximally fair to the people who haven't already qualified.)
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Arnminster
Warrior
296 Posts
| | 05/08/2006 2:11 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vrecknidj
quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
No one thinks that it should be against the rules to play in more than one event if you didn't win one yet, but I think that the majority of people think that if you made top 4 at one event, and you make top 4 at another, that the invite that you get from that second event should get passed down.
I'm 100% in agreement with this. (Could it be because I was 5th in a qualifier last year? No. The top player at that event dropped out and let others in because he'd already qualified--he did the honorable thing. It's because it's maximally fair to the people who haven't already qualified.)
Dave
I would also like to see the slot roll down. Last year I ended up qualifing twice trying to get the top prize and felt bad about denying someone else a spot. This year I can only be in one qualfier but I know plenty of people going to 2 or more that if they don't get the top spot will try again. | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/08/2006 2:18 PM |
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Originally posted by Arnminster
I would also like to see the slot roll down. Last year I ended up qualifing twice trying to get the top prize and felt bad about denying someone else a spot. This year I can only be in one qualfier but I know plenty of people going to 2 or more that if they don't get the top spot will try again.
And too add there people are reporting that at last years SoCal Sealed Grinder they did slide down which is inconsistent with other events. | |
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llyrsln
Sneak
100 Posts
| | 05/09/2006 9:17 PM |
| The artwork for everything published by WOTC is available online, including the DDM Handbook. But not the artwork on DDM stat cards.
Does WOTC have any plans to make the artwork on the stat cards available online? Or is there some reason why they can't?
I raised this question about artwork in this thread:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19848
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Talafenix
Sneak
128 Posts
| | 05/11/2006 3:04 AM |
| >>>And too add there people are reporting that at last years SoCal Sealed Grinder they did slide down which is inconsistent with other events.<<<
Interesting... I ran it and didn't slide them so that would be interesting indeed.
Ian | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 05/11/2006 3:11 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Talafenix
>>>And too add there people are reporting that at last years SoCal Sealed Grinder they did slide down which is inconsistent with other events.<<<
Interesting... I ran it and didn't slide them so that would be interesting indeed.
Ian
The only reason I played in the limited grinder as someone who had already qualified was because I was told before the tournament the spots would slide down, so I wouldn't be taking someone else's spot if I happened to do well (which I didn't). My recollection is that the qualification slots did slide down - the top 8 draft slots did not, but that's a different element I think? | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 05/12/2006 6:54 PM |
| I have been wondering:
How much consideration do older materials (Fiend Folio, Monster Manual 2, Monsters of Faerun) get when you decide on the figures that appear in upcoming sets? Do you look at all monsters that have not been made into miniatures equally? Do yuo favor classic monsters and recent additions to D&D more?
There are many Fiend Folio and Monster Manual II creatures that have not been made into miniatures. Is is unlikely that we'll see many remaining creatures from these sources make it into figures? | |
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Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 05/13/2006 1:33 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
I have been wondering:
How much consideration do older materials (Fiend Folio, Monster Manual 2, Monsters of Faerun) get when you decide on the figures that appear in upcoming sets? Do you look at all monsters that have not been made into miniatures equally? Do yuo favor classic monsters and recent additions to D&D more?
I'd say it depends on the set theme, and how we feel we've addressed certain books and to what degree. There's an effort to include a certain number of "classic" creatures in each set - and those might be things that were from earlier editions but whose first 3e appearance may have been MoF, MM2, or FF. Things like the Hook Horror or the Grell, which are creatures I'd consider more "core" than something like the Achaierai or Rast.
We all have lists of what we'd like to see made as minis, and many of those creatures are in those other MM books. Some of us were contributors to those books (not me, though), and so have personal favorites.
As Matt will allude to in an upcoming article, it's a balancing act between what the designers/developers want, what the rest of R&D and the brand team asks for, what's in upcoming books/adventures, what we haven't done in existing books, what our fans clamor for, what Mat Smith's character is, and what we can put in to upset Ghendar. Usually, there's alot of overlap in those categories.
Some things have high priority, some things are on a more measured and deliberate pace.
Vague enough answer for you?
Bottom line is, we do look at those books, for the cool monsters that are in them. Jovoc, Juggernaught, Bone Naga, and Maug are examples of creatures that I think would make great minis - and there are a bunch more that could also fit the bill, though I think the Coolness Mine is close to hitting bedrock in the FF. I think MM3 and MM4 have more cool ideas, that sound and feel less random than something like the Phiuhl or Indricothere. (It might not be coincidence that MM3 was the first MM with a development team.) | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/13/2006 1:59 AM |
| | Ahh Shoe teases us with a list of minis and one of them I want really bad. The Jovoc! | |
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Shoe
Sergeant
804 Posts
| | 05/13/2006 2:48 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Ahh Shoe teases us with a list of minis and one of them I want really bad. The Jovoc!
I once had an encounter with some Jovocs and a Balor. The Jovocs were an annoyance for the PCs, until the Balor got sick of their ineptitude and flame waved the whole room. Most of the Jovocs instantly bit it, even with fire resist 20, and 3/4 of the party took around 120 damage.
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 05/13/2006 12:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Ahh Shoe teases us with a list of minis and one of them I want really bad. The Jovoc!
Every time I scan the Chainmail listing I made, I keep stalling at the Jovoc--And I didn't even know what it was until a week ago!
Of course, the fact that it's listed right after "Gnoll Champion" is probably a reason why I stop right there, but it does bode well for the probability of one coming soon. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10288 Posts
United States
| | 05/14/2006 12:23 AM |
| Are there any plans to make sure that judges of important events (like ones where qualifiers for GenCon are on the line), will know the rules? What are the criteria for judging at events such as this?
Angry link here: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20085
If I'd have interviewed the judge at this event before the games started, I would have been happy to unregister myself and judged it.
Is this a WotC question that can't be asked here? (I'm too jittery from being up for 15+ hours driving to, playing at, and driving from an event to remember if there are specific rules for this thread that I may be violating by asking this.)
Edit: this topic, I'm sure, will take care of itself in the Tournament Thread, no need for any follow-up here. Rather than just delete it, I thought I'd edit this one for reference.
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 05/14/2006 4:39 PM |
| In another thread: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=278723&TOPIC_ID=20098&FORUM_ID=2
quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
quote:
Originally posted by TroglodyteWizard89
i couldnt detect and corpses on his body.
The corpses are still there. We cannot change the sculpt once the molds have been cast. The paints may change but the basic sculpt stays the same.
Thanks for the reply, Lidda.
I have a question regarding the underlined statement. [edit]Is that always true? Are you saying that all production line figures and all master paint figures have the same sculpt?[/edit] There are some differences between the War Troll sculpt that was seen in boosters and the War troll in the gallery.
For instance, if you look at the gallery version of the figure and you compare it to the production line version (from the same angle), you'll see that:
* the arrow fletchings look different
* the heel in the right hand side of the photo is farther off the ground
* the ornamentation above/behind the shoulder on the right side of the photo is different
* the sword is at a different angle
* the shoulder ornamentation on the left side fo the photo is different
These differences are not changes in the paint. They are changes in the sculpt. Why were there two sculpts for the War Troll?
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Dordledum
Commander
3186 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/14/2006 4:47 PM |
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Originally posted by jgsugden
In another thread: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=278723&TOPIC_ID=20098&FORUM_ID=2
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Originally posted by lurkinglidda
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Originally posted by TroglodyteWizard89
i couldnt detect and corpses on his body.
The corpses are still there. We cannot change the sculpt once the molds have been cast. The paints may change but the basic sculpt stays the same.
Thanks for the reply, Lidda.
I have a question regarding the underlined statement. Is that always true? There are some differences between the War Troll sculpt that was seen in boosters and the War troll in the gallery.
For instance, if you look at the gallery version of the figure and you compare it to the production line version (from the same angle), you'll see that:
* the arrow fletchings look different
* the heel in the right hand side of the photo is farther off the ground
* the ornamentation above/behind the shoulder on the right side of the photo is different
* the sword is at a different angle
* the shoulder ornamentation on the left side fo the photo is different
These differences are not changes in the paint. They are changes in the sculpt. Why were there two sculpts for the War Troll?
Or for the Large Bronze Dragon for that matter?
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
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| | 05/15/2006 5:53 PM |
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