Arandae Sergeant
 713 Posts



 UK
 | | 05/31/2006 6:30 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
My template sense is tingling I predict Half Fiends, Half Vampires and Half Dragons (Evil ones) in Unhallowed
LOL! Is template-sense like a Spidey-sense? Your template-sense must have been tingling so much for WotDQ that it burnt your neurons out! [:D]
I think you have a point. There are lots of appropriate templates, and I hope we get some unusual undead (an uncommon giant skeleton or zombie, a vampire template added to an interesting creature). But equally, I hope the set doesn't go template mad - I don't want a half-elemental half-vampire fiendish warforged two-weapon wielding necromancer (with extra levels in blackguard) mounted on a half-dragon half-camembert were-manticore zombie [)].
I'm happy about another undead set. Small skeletons and zombies please! Uncommon Mummy please! And a Bodak... oh, yes please! | | Champion of the Bodak.Knight of the Aboleth.Squire of Gnomes. Friend of (Non-Ugly) Fey. Anti-Champion of the Fozzie Bugbear Strangler (Demonweb 32/60). Called Shots- Blood War: Green Slaad (53/60), Night Below: Kuo-Toa Whip (55/60), Demonweb: Aboleth, Feywild: Fire Beetle, Next Icon: Gargantuan Jotunheim Frost Giant | |
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yack Commander
 3320 Posts



 Gatineau Canada
 | | 05/31/2006 6:32 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by MerricB
I wonder if the figures will be "unhallowed" within the current set of D&D monsters... or rather the ones that are left out...
Like... The Flumph! (and the dracolisk, death dog, guardian daemon, and the other poorly conceived fiends!)
Cheers!
I would be all over that...more then seeing more undead that we already have. That would be cool... | | Champion of the Peryton Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer DW: Duergar Priest RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 05/31/2006 7:02 AM |
| What kind of statistics would a FLUMPH have?
[}:)] | | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 7:25 AM |
| Well if any set is going to have an Alhoon in it, this will be it.
Cmon sweet sweet vindication!! | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Hejas Sergeant
 435 Posts



 Poland
 | | 05/31/2006 8:48 AM |
| Unglued Unhinged Unhallowed
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(first 2 are MtG sets) | | ~Polish~DDM~Elite~ ;-)
Champion of the Psion Killer. Knight of the "Baldur's Gate" Characters.
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 Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
 10152 Posts



 Edinboro PA
 | | 05/31/2006 8:55 AM |
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berus316 Sergeant
 663 Posts



 Markham, Ontario Canada
 | | 05/31/2006 9:53 AM |
| Just further confirmation on more sets makes me very happy...
Could be called Gnomes takes Arabel and I'd still be pleased.
Addicts don't care about content, just need more, more I say.
Though Strahd and an anticipated Aspect of Vecna would give the set a perfect score so far.
Another Wraith (uncommon), Skeletal Ogre and Skeletal Troll would continue the perfect score.
Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy. I'm sure there are wives shaking their heads all over the world [)] | | Champion of the Aspect of Gruumsh Nemesis of Gnomes and Warforged
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Thailfi Sergeant
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 | | 05/31/2006 10:02 AM |
| Wohoooo!!!! we are finally getting minis of all the creatures that were not converted to 3e. Yippeee!!
Wait....there is an h in the set name? Sorry, I missed that. Oh well, now I don't know what to think. | | Thailfi's Have/Want List Thailfi's References | |
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striderlotr Commander
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 | | 05/31/2006 10:04 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Hejas
Unglued Unhinged Unhallowed
?
(first 2 are MtG sets)
Bad, bad, bad... Don't give Shoe any ideas. | | Sean Banks Champion of Elementals Official Organizer Gen Con 05 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 06 maxminis Event | Gen Con 06 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 07 Community Event | |
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striderlotr Commander
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 | | 05/31/2006 10:05 AM |
| Well I'd put my hopes on some good LG pieces to fight all the tainted pieces in the set.
Hey, a guy can dream can't he. | | Sean Banks Champion of Elementals Official Organizer Gen Con 05 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 06 maxminis Event | Gen Con 06 maxminis Event | Winterfantasy 07 Community Event | |
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ckissee Underboss
 1431 Posts



 KD :)
 | | 05/31/2006 10:27 AM |
| Maybe Unhallowed will finally contain a Minotaur Zombie and an Ogre Skeleton to complete the trifecta* on both of those creatures.
*in this case, I refer to regular creature, skeletal creature and zombified creature as the trifecta
Maybe even bring in the Troll Skeleton or Troll Zombie.
| | KD Minister of Economy, Organizer of The Maxminis Red Paper Clip Project Champion of: Aspect of Blibdoolpoolp Miniatures Lists "I *am* a third-party company." Tangent Games - Designer of Bankruptcy: The Card Game | |
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Venport Sergeant
 739 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 10:49 AM |
| | Everyone hold onto your Sacred watchers... they may become ever more useful with a undead set. (evil undead slaer +10 to dmg that;s hot stuff) | | Sacramento DDM http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16854
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FeranEldritchKnight Sergeant
 385 Posts



 Kansas City, MO USA
 | | 05/31/2006 11:28 AM |
| Now I'm dreaming about a Doomguide of Kelemvor mini. I play one, and if it just happened to look like my character I would die of happiness. [:D]
Reality: It would be a highly desired rare and despite being perfect I could never get one. [xx(] undead--> <--Hugan of Kelemvor, Doomguide | | Completed trades: Gausse, Mazra, Pagansexy, Galerians, Lord_Raven, Drakkengi, Temujinn x2, Random Sasquatch, elf_ranger, Azuretide, Hung4treason, Griffrat (face2face), Nasamonkey Carpe Forum! | |
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Sammael Underboss
 1881 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 11:47 AM |
| | Eh, humans are rarely highly desireable rares. Even Elminster and Artemis Entreri aren't going for much yet. | | Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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taliesin Underboss
 1113 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 11:54 AM |
| If it's not nerfed, an Aspect of Vecna would look something like this:
Aspect of Vecna LE/CE Rare Commander 4? ??/60 Lvl 10 Speed 6 AC 22 HP 65 Melee +9 (5 magic) Type: Undead CFX: ?? SA: Blind Fight, Defensive Casting (creature can cast spells normally even while threatened), DR, Ghost Touch, SR, Spell Penetration Spells: unlimited empowered magic missiles (sight, 25 magic)
Moradin was our first Aspect commander, and Epic Nerull was upgraded to commander status, so I'm guessing the more intelligent and calculating Gods will have commander aspects here on out (Bane's epic card will be a commander, too! You'll see!). Vecna seems likely to get that treatment.
The defensive casting comes from a blurb in the MHB that specifically calls out that Vecna's concentration check modifier is high enough that it always succeeds at casting defensively.
The high damage on the empowered MM comes from caster level 10. 5 bolts dealind 1d4 (average 2.5)+1 = 17.5 damage. 17.5 x 1.5(empower)=26.25, rounded down to 25. I'd fully expect that to get nerfed down to a paltry 15, though.
If it does do 25 at sight, I think it could be playable even if it's hp/cost ratio is at 1:1.
Sigh. Gotta love the rampant and ultimately pointless speculation. | | Champion of the Entire Monster Manual 1! (Click link to see current progress!) Uncommon Painting Competition 2 Winner | |
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devasque Sergeant
 874 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 12:13 PM |
| | Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well. Would cross my fingers if my Talontar Blightlord doesn't see light in WotDQ or Bloodwar that Unhallowed might be a possible. Some half-fiend type characters as well. | | You see! There ARE others out there just like me. What? Why are laughing? | |
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Nixlord Underboss
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 Quezon City, Philippines
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Username Warlord
 5692 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 12:21 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by devasque
Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well.
That would be cool! | | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5278 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 05/31/2006 12:36 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Shoe
Not quite. Unhallowed (dictionary.com reference) means desecrated or defiled. So it would the taintyest of the tainted. This is more like a set with a capital U, 'cept set starts with S, but that wouldn't make any sense at all.
Wow, my Shoe-Fu is weak today. I'm sure there's some sort of clue there, but all I get from thinking about it is a massive headache... | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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Monsoon28 Underboss
 2313 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/31/2006 12:49 PM |
| | Hmmmmmm an Aspect of Myrkul, a Lich Cleric of Myrkul and a Horned Harbinger, sounds like the perfect Trifecta for Unhallowed! [)] | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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Kunimatyu Sergeant
 725 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 12:55 PM |
| I'm trying to think of possible chase rares, but aside from the very likely Vampiric Red Dragon, I'm having a lot of difficulty coming up with any. Aspect of Vecna and Strahd seem like shoe-ins, but since they're really just neat vamp and lich figs, I'm not sure how popular they'll be.
I am looking forward to some cross-promotion with the Ravenloft module, though.
And I still maintain that 'taintyest of the tainted' applies to yugoloths. ;) | | Champion of the Aboleth, Prophet of Denizens. BW Called Shot: Babau, UH Called Shot: Aspect of Vecna | |
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lingster Sergeant
 778 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 1:32 PM |
| All I know is if the set is themed around "unhallowed" peices, or "tainted" pieces...
This could mean werewolves, and undead.... Which means anything for Hextor is ok by me.
Perwonally, I hope that Hexotr gets his "Fist" in this set. An uncommon LE "Hextor's Fist", aka med-high level Human fighter WOULD BE AWSOME!!!! | | May you find peace and happiness at the hand of Hextor.
Champion of Black Pudding Called Shot Desert of Desolation: Drider - VINDICATED! Called Shot Demonweb: Drow Cleric of Lloth Called Shot FeyWild: Water Nymph (06-26-08)
Member of Team Millennium
4E takes away our Big Bad Evil Guy (BBEG) and give us this:
The Big Bad Mis-Understood But Not Quite Inherently Evil Who Does Naughty Things Guy (BBMUBNQIEWDNTG for short) | |
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Grey Dragon Sneak
 75 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 8:49 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by devasque
Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well. Would cross my fingers if my Talontar Blightlord doesn't see light in WotDQ or Bloodwar that Unhallowed might be a possible. Some half-fiend type characters as well.
Well, Shoe's "taintyist of the tainted" comment would seem to lean in that direction, since the Taint mechanic was a major focus in HoH. Personally, I'm all for it. Bring on the Dread Necromancer, Tainted Scholar, and Gray Jester! Even better would be a very special new version of an iconic character-- Jozan The Fallen, Vampire Cleric (from the vignette on page 5 and the illustration on page 50). [}:)] | | "Life is short. Death is shorter."-- motto of the Halfling Assassin Squad | |
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Ackrus Warrior
 282 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 11:44 PM |
| | Come on Sthrad and Szass Tam [:D]! | | Champion of Halaster Blackcloak
Rage!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Can of the Cave Beer Commander
 2838 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 11:45 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by lingster
This could mean werewolves, and undead.... Which means anything for Hextor is ok by me.
A werewolf? Surely you jest. [)] It'll never happen although it would be keen if it did...
It would be a good set for an Abyssal Ravager, though. An extremely good set. A Demonic Gnoll Shaman/Adept (or Archer) would be welcomed as well.
I must confess that I'm a bit worried, though. I had high hopes for Deathknell and Undead goodness. Hopefully Unhallowed will be more to my preference. | | Champion of the Werewolf Lord, Knight of Anything Duergar, and Squire of Things Gnollish List reset with the start of previews for each new set...got Chainmail®? | |
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Ackrus Warrior
 282 Posts




 | | 05/31/2006 11:50 PM |
| Possible minis:
Devourer Mohrg Szass Tam Strahd Von Zarovich Angel of Decay Dire Maggot Brain in a Jar Deathbringer Palemaster Deathmaster (lst edition) | | Champion of Halaster Blackcloak
Rage!!!!!!!!!! | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 06/01/2006 12:48 AM |
| There's a picture of a skeletal Displacer Beast in the Players' Handbook 2. Skeletal D-Beasts would be nifty (and Shoe did mention that we could see a new D-Beast in an upcoming set....).
| | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Errorzero Skirmisher
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 | | 07/06/2006 3:00 PM |
| | Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer. | | | |
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Professional Fan of DDM Shoe Sergeant
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 | | 07/06/2006 3:07 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Errorzero
Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer.
I didn't know Soth had braces... | | Professional Fan of DDM | |
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robbdaman Underboss
 2380 Posts




 | | 07/06/2006 3:12 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Shoe
quote: Originally posted by Errorzero
Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer.
I didn't know Soth had braces...
Yeah, he's British! They have bad teeth and all. (looks around to see if Ian heard that)
R~ | | Champion of the Titan ****************************************************************************************************************************************************** Successful trades with: Tickparasite, Iyceman, Faragdar The Wise's friend, avrivah, Drakkengi, brucemc, Krush, maniacal_mini_monger, hung4treason, Gandy, NarlethDrider, Kunimatyu, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah..... | |
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Yukon Cornelius Warrior
 337 Posts




 | | 07/06/2006 3:42 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
There's a picture of a skeletal Displacer Beast in the Players' Handbook 2. Skeletal D-Beasts would be nifty (and Shoe did mention that we could see a new D-Beast in an upcoming set....).
In the words of Peter Griffin, that would be frickin' sweet! | | Champion of Desmodu Vindicated Champion of the Displacer Beast Pack Lord!
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kingnanu Warrior
 214 Posts




 | | 07/06/2006 5:36 PM |
| They could put alot of really cool undead and related stuff in the set. Some of the stuff I'd like to see would include.
Entropic Reaper Deathbringer Undead Swarms True necromancer New Lich New Vampire Undead hunters of all kinds
Thats a good start. | | Called shot for blood war: Leonal | |
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stephengroy Underboss
 1440 Posts



 Tempe AZ Beeyotch
 | | 07/06/2006 5:56 PM |
| Synonyms secular; temporal; worldly; unsanctified; unhallowed; unholy; irreligious; irreverent; ungodly; wicked; godless; impious; profane
Swell...a set full of clerics who've fallen out of divine favor? | | Waiting for Chainmail Equivalencies since 2005
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robbdaman Underboss
 2380 Posts




 | | 07/06/2006 6:07 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by stephengroy
Synonyms secular; temporal; worldly; unsanctified; unhallowed; unholy; irreligious; irreverent; ungodly; wicked; godless; impious; profane
Swell...a set full of clerics who've fallen out of divine favor?
Uh.... I think you're taking the wording too literally. LOL! [:p]
R~ | | Champion of the Titan ****************************************************************************************************************************************************** Successful trades with: Tickparasite, Iyceman, Faragdar The Wise's friend, avrivah, Drakkengi, brucemc, Krush, maniacal_mini_monger, hung4treason, Gandy, NarlethDrider, Kunimatyu, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah..... | |
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stephengroy Underboss
 1440 Posts



 Tempe AZ Beeyotch
 | | 07/06/2006 6:44 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad
quote: Originally posted by trollbill
quote: Originally posted by Shoe
This is the set when we fill in all the holes...
Oh wait.. Unhallowed, not Unhollowed. Keep getting those mixed up...[:o)]
It's too far away for me to give away any hints - but it does prove that DDM is far from dead. We'll be counting the days until its release.
Wait. Was that a hint? (probably two obvious)
Well, I'm sure it won't be the games' death knell.
*bah dum ting*
Fill in all the holes?
COOL! Now I can finally have a mini for that little old NPDC Gravedigger! | | Waiting for Chainmail Equivalencies since 2005
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