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05/31/2006 6:30 AM  
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Originally posted by Dargoth

My template sense is tingling I predict Half Fiends, Half Vampires and Half Dragons (Evil ones) in Unhallowed


LOL! Is template-sense like a Spidey-sense? Your template-sense must have been tingling so much for WotDQ that it burnt your neurons out! [:D]

I think you have a point. There are lots of appropriate templates, and I hope we get some unusual undead (an uncommon giant skeleton or zombie, a vampire template added to an interesting creature). But equally, I hope the set doesn't go template mad - I don't want a half-elemental half-vampire fiendish warforged two-weapon wielding necromancer (with extra levels in blackguard) mounted on a half-dragon half-camembert were-manticore zombie [)].

I'm happy about another undead set. Small skeletons and zombies please! Uncommon Mummy please! And a Bodak... oh, yes please!

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05/31/2006 6:32 AM  
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I wonder if the figures will be "unhallowed" within the current set of D&D monsters... or rather the ones that are left out...

Like... The Flumph! (and the dracolisk, death dog, guardian daemon, and the other poorly conceived fiends!)

Cheers!



I would be all over that...more then seeing more undead that we already have. That would be cool...

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05/31/2006 7:02 AM  
What kind of statistics would a FLUMPH have?

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05/31/2006 7:25 AM  
Well if any set is going to have an Alhoon in it, this will be it.

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05/31/2006 8:48 AM  
Unglued
Unhinged
Unhallowed

?

(first 2 are MtG sets)

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05/31/2006 8:55 AM  
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05/31/2006 9:33 AM  
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Originally posted by WakeXX

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05/31/2006 9:53 AM  
Just further confirmation on more sets makes me very happy...

Could be called Gnomes takes Arabel and I'd still be pleased.

Addicts don't care about content, just need more, more I say.

Though Strahd and an anticipated Aspect of Vecna would give the set a perfect score so far.

Another Wraith (uncommon), Skeletal Ogre and Skeletal Troll would continue the perfect score.

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05/31/2006 10:02 AM  
Wohoooo!!!! we are finally getting minis of all the creatures that were not converted to 3e. Yippeee!!

Wait....there is an h in the set name? Sorry, I missed that. Oh well, now I don't know what to think.

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05/31/2006 10:04 AM  
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Unglued
Unhinged
Unhallowed

?

(first 2 are MtG sets)



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05/31/2006 10:05 AM  
Well I'd put my hopes on some good LG pieces to fight all the tainted pieces in the set.

Hey, a guy can dream can't he.

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05/31/2006 10:27 AM  
Maybe Unhallowed will finally contain a Minotaur Zombie and an Ogre Skeleton to complete the trifecta* on both of those creatures.

*in this case, I refer to regular creature, skeletal creature and zombified creature as the trifecta

Maybe even bring in the Troll Skeleton or Troll Zombie.


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05/31/2006 10:49 AM  
Everyone hold onto your Sacred watchers... they may become ever more useful with a undead set. (evil undead slaer +10 to dmg that;s hot stuff)

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05/31/2006 11:28 AM  
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05/31/2006 11:47 AM  
Eh, humans are rarely highly desireable rares. Even Elminster and Artemis Entreri aren't going for much yet.

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05/31/2006 11:54 AM  
If it's not nerfed, an Aspect of Vecna would look something like this:

Aspect of Vecna
LE/CE Rare Commander 4? ??/60
Lvl 10 Speed 6 AC 22 HP 65
Melee +9 (5 magic)
Type: Undead
CFX: ??
SA: Blind Fight, Defensive Casting (creature can cast spells normally even while threatened), DR, Ghost Touch, SR, Spell Penetration
Spells: unlimited empowered magic missiles (sight, 25 magic)

Moradin was our first Aspect commander, and Epic Nerull was upgraded to commander status, so I'm guessing the more intelligent and calculating Gods will have commander aspects here on out (Bane's epic card will be a commander, too! You'll see!). Vecna seems likely to get that treatment.

The defensive casting comes from a blurb in the MHB that specifically calls out that Vecna's concentration check modifier is high enough that it always succeeds at casting defensively.

The high damage on the empowered MM comes from caster level 10. 5 bolts dealind 1d4 (average 2.5)+1 = 17.5 damage. 17.5 x 1.5(empower)=26.25, rounded down to 25. I'd fully expect that to get nerfed down to a paltry 15, though.

If it does do 25 at sight, I think it could be playable even if it's hp/cost ratio is at 1:1.


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05/31/2006 12:13 PM  
Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well. Would cross my fingers if my Talontar Blightlord doesn't see light in WotDQ or Bloodwar that Unhallowed might be a possible. Some half-fiend type characters as well.

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05/31/2006 12:19 PM  
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Originally posted by devasque

Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well.


I'd like to hope, but they might just give us another Valorous Prince. [:p]


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05/31/2006 12:21 PM  
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Originally posted by devasque

Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well.



That would be cool!

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05/31/2006 12:36 PM  
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Originally posted by Shoe

Not quite. Unhallowed (dictionary.com reference) means desecrated or defiled. So it would the taintyest of the tainted. This is more like a set with a capital U, 'cept set starts with S, but that wouldn't make any sense at all.



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05/31/2006 12:49 PM  
Hmmmmmm an Aspect of Myrkul, a Lich Cleric of Myrkul and a Horned Harbinger, sounds like the perfect Trifecta for Unhallowed! [)]

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05/31/2006 12:55 PM  
I'm trying to think of possible chase rares, but aside from the very likely Vampiric Red Dragon, I'm having a lot of difficulty coming up with any. Aspect of Vecna and Strahd seem like shoe-ins, but since they're really just neat vamp and lich figs, I'm not sure how popular they'll be.

I am looking forward to some cross-promotion with the Ravenloft module, though.

And I still maintain that 'taintyest of the tainted' applies to yugoloths. ;)

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05/31/2006 1:32 PM  
All I know is if the set is themed around "unhallowed" peices, or "tainted" pieces...

This could mean werewolves, and undead.... Which means anything for Hextor is ok by me.

Perwonally, I hope that Hexotr gets his "Fist" in this set. An uncommon LE "Hextor's Fist", aka med-high level Human fighter WOULD BE AWSOME!!!!

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05/31/2006 8:49 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by devasque

Here's hoping they've used Heroes of Horror as reference material. Would be nice place for an Archivist, Witch pc type. Some sort of Undead Hunter for the light side for flavor as well. Would cross my fingers if my Talontar Blightlord doesn't see light in WotDQ or Bloodwar that Unhallowed might be a possible. Some half-fiend type characters as well.



Well, Shoe's "taintyist of the tainted" comment would seem to lean in that direction, since the Taint mechanic was a major focus in HoH. Personally, I'm all for it. Bring on the Dread Necromancer, Tainted Scholar, and Gray Jester! Even better would be a very special new version of an iconic character-- Jozan The Fallen, Vampire Cleric (from the vignette on page 5 and the illustration on page 50). [}:)]

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05/31/2006 11:44 PM  
Come on Sthrad and Szass Tam [:D]!

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05/31/2006 11:45 PM  
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Originally posted by lingster

This could mean werewolves, and undead.... Which means anything for Hextor is ok by me.


A werewolf? Surely you jest. [)] It'll never happen although it would be keen if it did...

It would be a good set for an Abyssal Ravager, though. An extremely good set. A Demonic Gnoll Shaman/Adept (or Archer) would be welcomed as well.

I must confess that I'm a bit worried, though. I had high hopes for Deathknell and Undead goodness. Hopefully Unhallowed will be more to my preference.

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05/31/2006 11:50 PM  
Possible minis:

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06/01/2006 12:48 AM  
There's a picture of a skeletal Displacer Beast in the Players' Handbook 2. Skeletal D-Beasts would be nifty (and Shoe did mention that we could see a new D-Beast in an upcoming set....).


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07/06/2006 3:00 PM  
Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer.

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07/06/2006 3:07 PM  
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Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer.

I didn't know Soth had braces...

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07/06/2006 3:12 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Errorzero

Personally I'd Love To See Azrael, Soth's Were-Badger Retainer.

I didn't know Soth had braces...



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07/06/2006 3:42 PM  
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There's a picture of a skeletal Displacer Beast in the Players' Handbook 2. Skeletal D-Beasts would be nifty (and Shoe did mention that we could see a new D-Beast in an upcoming set....).



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07/06/2006 5:36 PM  
They could put alot of really cool undead and related stuff in the set. Some of the stuff I'd like to see would include.

Entropic Reaper
Deathbringer
Undead Swarms
True necromancer
New Lich
New Vampire
Undead hunters of all kinds

Thats a good start.

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07/06/2006 5:56 PM  
Synonyms
secular; temporal; worldly; unsanctified; unhallowed; unholy; irreligious; irreverent; ungodly; wicked; godless; impious; profane

Swell...a set full of clerics who've fallen out of divine favor?

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07/06/2006 6:07 PM  
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Originally posted by stephengroy

Synonyms
secular; temporal; worldly; unsanctified; unhallowed; unholy; irreligious; irreverent; ungodly; wicked; godless; impious; profane

Swell...a set full of clerics who've fallen out of divine favor?



Uh.... I think you're taking the wording too literally. LOL! [:p]

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07/06/2006 6:44 PM  
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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Shoe

This is the set when we fill in all the holes...

Oh wait.. Unhallowed, not Unhollowed. Keep getting those mixed up...[:o)]

It's too far away for me to give away any hints - but it does prove that DDM is far from dead. We'll be counting the days until its release.

Wait. Was that a hint? (probably two obvious)



Well, I'm sure it won't be the games' death knell.



*bah dum ting*



Fill in all the holes?

COOL!
Now I can finally have a mini for that little old NPDC Gravedigger!

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