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06/02/2006 12:17 PM  
Gnomes were blamed for the leak in Preview X.

Gnomes were jokingly said to be upcomming minis in an April Fools Article.

Shoe made a joke about how the last mini in Preview X was "A Gnome mounted on a Thaskor)

Lidda joked that Wererat Rogue was misspelled on the poster and should be Wererat G-N-O-M-E.

The list of Gnome jokes goes on and on and on.

Do these jokes mean we will see them soon?
Call me over sensitive...But isnt joking about Gnome minis while having no intention of ever making them....well...In bad taste?

I dont think they would do that to people who relly want Gnome minis.
I see all the jokes as a sign that there will be at least one in BloodWar.
What do you all think?

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06/02/2006 12:33 PM  

I think you're perilously close to whining. [)]


I do think it is more likely that we'll see a Gnome in a set before we see a change in how preprelease venues are selected.


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06/02/2006 12:38 PM  
No idea here. I'll bet we see one or two gnomes in the next year, but I wouldn't hope for too much more. Personally, I think the following are must have:

Gnome Bard
Svirneblin (or however you spell deep gnome) Rogue or whatever

I'd love to see more than that (i.e., gnome expert (tinkerer), gnome rogue, forest gnome druid, etc.) but those two really need to be done.

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06/02/2006 12:56 PM  
I would mind getting gnome:

Bard (Gimble)
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06/02/2006 12:56 PM  
It seems likely they'll at least have one comming out soon.

Gnomes are a bit of an enigma. People tend to really like them or not at all. Even though they are a core race sometimes they seem to be under represented in published materials.

And then there's the whole small minis suck contingent.

Still, as of late it seems the pro Gnome camp is the stronger one so in time unless things change I think Gnome minis are in our future.

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06/02/2006 12:59 PM  
Here is my take: [:)]

Gnomes are commonly known as tricksters. Perhaps Shoe and the gang feel that those who enjoy playing gnomes can appreciate the humor and the jokes without being offended. For the most part, I think that is true. After all, we do know that they enjoy playing around and being cryptic, so this is just another aspect of that.

However, on some level, those who play gnome characters and use gnome NPCs should have their request honored just as other requests get honored. Just like any joke, it can be funny the first time or two, but it can get old and tired if overused. It can start to feel more deflating if it is the running joke, with no end in sight. Even gnomes can get serious every once in a while. [:)]

With WotDQ being Shoe's first set as the lead, I have a feeling that in the next set or two, there will be a gnome or two. I don't know his true feelings on gnomes, whether he actively hates them as some people have inferred or if he just feels there are more important figures to be made or ones that his team feels would be more well received, but I do think that he listens to the feedback he sees. It may even take a few sets, since they are probably almost done with Unhallowed from a design and/or print run selection aspect, but if there isn't one or two by that set, I really would be surprised and a bit disappointed. Until a set is finalized and printed, I am sure he can't comment on what will be in a set (because it always can change, as we have heard), but it would be nice to get an honest reply about the chances of seeing one soon. [:)] Just my two cents.

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06/02/2006 2:20 PM  
Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama

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06/02/2006 2:39 PM  
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Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'


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06/02/2006 2:50 PM  
DQ had just about everything BUT gnomes (monkey, pirate, ninja, robot...). Maybe Blood War will have nothing BUT gnomes (fiendish gnome, demonic gnome, gnome overlord of all things evil...) [:D]

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06/02/2006 2:54 PM  
I am, at heart, a pessimist, so I will say no gnomes in 2006, and unlikely in 2007. Not sure why they're getting shafted, not sure why it will continue, but that's where my dark heart leads me to believe.

However, my opposing cynic says that it's possible. The set after some is jealous of my old gnomes, we'll get them. This logic also explains why I think we'll see a new Drizzt in Blood War.

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06/02/2006 2:56 PM  
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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm

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06/02/2006 3:09 PM  
I do miss a Svirfbeblin mini or two. I can use halflings for normal gnomes.

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06/02/2006 3:18 PM  
Ahhh.... lunch today was a fine Gnome cooked meal.....

Anyway, with gnomes being a core race, they will get done again I'm sure. It is surprising how few have been made, when some of the possibilities would be so cool, the Gnome Bard especially.

Gimble is an iconic is he not? And a Tinker Gnome who has a crazy-ass ability to dismember constructs in a single round would be welcome at my table.

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06/02/2006 3:24 PM  
Even though gnomes are an old PC race I've been in a lot of group that never played them once. In my current group they pop up more frequently but I can see how gnomes have been forgotten, some people don't even consider them.

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06/02/2006 3:27 PM  
I don't know any RPGer who plays gnomes. They just aren't that great.

The last gnome we got was in Aberrations...and we know how that set is the least valued of them all...it's the dread curse of gnomes.

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06/02/2006 3:29 PM  
If the trend of using more Chainmail sculpts continues, we're bound to see a Gnome Infiltrator (gnome with repeating crossbow, goggles, and bad hair) show up eventually.

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06/02/2006 3:29 PM  
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Originally posted by trollbill

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?


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Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?



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06/02/2006 4:27 PM  
Personally I haven't really missed the surface gnomes. I do think however we are over due for a couple of deep gnomes.

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06/02/2006 4:51 PM  
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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?



The editors are in Nome, Alaska. Are we fired yet?



Only if you didn't use a Gnom de Plume.


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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?



The editors are in Nome, Alaska. Are we fired yet?



Only if you didn't use a Gnom de Plume.



and just when I'd had hopes that it coudln't get any worse... [)]


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06/02/2006 5:52 PM  
Please, please - gnome ore!

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06/02/2006 6:00 PM  
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Originally posted by trollbill

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Originally posted by Ghendar

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Originally posted by trollbill

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?



The editors are in Nome, Alaska. Are we fired yet?



Only if you didn't use a Gnom de Plume.



and just when I'd had hopes that it coudln't get any worse... [)]


Pretty soon there will be Academy A-gnome-inations.

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06/02/2006 6:47 PM  
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Originally posted by Ghendar

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Originally posted by trollbill

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

Yes, and that set shall be called... Gnomerama



I prefer 'Gnome Ghome.'



No, no, no. It's already been coined. It's Gnomegasm



Are you sure about that gnomenclature?



The editors are in Nome, Alaska. Are we fired yet?



Only if you didn't use a Gnom de Plume.



and just when I'd had hopes that it coudln't get any worse... [)]


Pretty soon there will be Academy A-gnome-inations.



If you all keep posting like this Gnome-body will love you. [:p]

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06/02/2006 8:34 PM  
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I don't know any RPGer who plays gnomes. They just aren't that great.



I played a Gnome PC once, and often use them as NPCs. When I played a Gnome PC, it wasn't because it was "good" or "powerful" or anything else related to stats.

It was for fun. And it was fun - I enjoyed the heck out of it, insufficiencies and all. It made him a credible character, and its more appealing to me to take on a challenge with a credible character than an incredibly efficient combat machine.

I think powergaming has a lot to do with the decline of Gnome popularity. (not that I'm knocking powergamers, it has its place and can be fun)

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06/02/2006 8:35 PM  
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Are we fired yet?


No, but the kindling has almost completely been laid out for the stakes. Soon, very soon we'll be "firing" you [}:)]

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06/02/2006 8:40 PM  
I have a player currently playing a gnome wizard and I am using a reaper I painted to represent him.



Because of that I have plenty of gnomes in the campaign since he comes from a town of gnomes and his family are involved in plots, etc.

gimme gmore gnomes!

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06/02/2006 8:52 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor

I don't know any RPGer who plays gnomes. They just aren't that great.

The last gnome we got was in Aberrations...and we know how that set is the least valued of them all...it's the dread curse of gnomes.


Hi Sharn Inquisitor. Pleased to meet you. I'm a RPGer.
Here, now you know someone who plays gnomes. [:D]
And frankly, they're quite popular at our RPG table. Out of the three current playing groups there's one in each.

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06/02/2006 8:54 PM  
David the gnome will be the next gnome, an Epic rare[)]

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06/02/2006 10:10 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor

I don't know any RPGer who plays gnomes. They just aren't that great.

The last gnome we got was in Aberrations...and we know how that set is the least valued of them all...it's the dread curse of gnomes.



I played a gnome illusionist in the last campaign I was a PC

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06/02/2006 10:34 PM  
One of the players in our group has been playing a female gnome rogue in our Shackled City campaign, and that character has brought much fun to the whole group.


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06/04/2006 12:33 PM  
My groups have seen more Gnome PCs than Half Orc PCs (even discounting the 2 that I've personally played).

If I was to go by just my main group, then nobody plays Half Orcs...[)]


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06/04/2006 1:34 PM  
I agree with Dragon Snack-- I've seen one half-orc in all of 3e, and it was mine and I played it ONCE. Although gnomes are very unpopular, I have seen more gnomes in my day. But then again, I think I always played the gnomes. My players always pick human, elf, or dwarf, with an occasional halfling.

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06/04/2006 1:39 PM  
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06/05/2006 8:24 AM  
I wouldn't mind a few more Gnomes

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06/05/2006 8:27 AM  
I think so long as they're skirmish useful gnomes a lot of the haters will at least be a little pacified.

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06/05/2006 8:48 AM  
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The list of Gnome jokes goes on and on and on.


Please - gno-more jokes!
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Do these jokes mean we will see them soon?


I hope so [:)]. It would be easy to alternate halflings and gnomes, one in each set. If WotC really were to just taunt their customers, without any intention of making any, that would be a little odd [B)].

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06/05/2006 9:06 AM  
When I was activily playing D&D, we had a gnome PC... never a half orc, but we did have a gnome. If we were to cut to the chace and do a poll of races people have played or seen played, I'd bet we would see the majority in the human, elf, and dwarf categories.

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06/05/2006 10:21 AM  
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When I was activily playing D&D, we had a gnome PC... never a half orc, but we did have a gnome. If we were to cut to the chace and do a poll of races people have played or seen played, I'd bet we would see the majority in the human, elf, and dwarf categories.



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One Half-Orc is your typical Fighter/Barbarian, and the other is a Fighter/Diviner.

The elf is a Conjuror, and is also mad.

And the Dwarf is a Cleric going for Warpriest.

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