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06/02/2006 1:24 PM  
I've read NUMEROUS posts regarding 'how awful the mounted Black dragon' is... "1 star", "Bleh", "I'm gonna sand off the rider", etc...
Well, for all those that absolutely despise this figure, I'll gladly take them off your hands for $7 each. Hey, everyone wants to complain about how bad it is, let's see how many people really don't like it that much...
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06/02/2006 1:27 PM  
I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.

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06/02/2006 1:37 PM  
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Originally posted by RobWreck

I've read NUMEROUS posts regarding 'how awful the mounted Black dragon' is... "1 star", "Bleh", "I'm gonna sand off the rider", etc...
Well, for all those that absolutely despise this figure, I'll gladly take them off your hands for $7 each. Hey, everyone wants to complain about how bad it is, let's see how many people really don't like it that much...


Hell, I'll take them for free. If you really hate it that much then prove it. [)]

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06/02/2006 1:42 PM  
I thought it looked kinda neat myself. There must be something cool about it, seeing how Paizo sold over 1,300 of 5000 repaints yesterday.


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06/02/2006 1:46 PM  
That's kinda what I was thinking... if Paizo was able to sell that many that quickly, there has to be some people buying them. Heck, look at the post on here about people clammering for them...
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PS: Hey Sulaco... I was offering to BUY them at $7 each, not make people PAY me $7 to take it from them. Of course, if they REALLY don't like it that much, then sure, they can pay me to take it from them... [)]

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06/02/2006 1:48 PM  
I like it. I'll keep mine for a bit, and I ordered the repaint.

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06/02/2006 1:53 PM  
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Originally posted by Ghendar

I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.



Now wait a minute, it isn't like his chest has a big logo that says "I'm a sorcerer, not a wizard!"

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06/02/2006 1:53 PM  
Personally I really like most of the mounted minis in this set. My favorites are deffinitely the Dragon and the Griffon rider. I think they both look awsome and would be more than happy to trade for them from those that don't like them.
Personally I was hoping the last unknown huge was going to be a huge brass dragon with a mounted knight, but I guess the Pack Lord will do for now.

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06/02/2006 1:54 PM  
I really really like it.

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06/02/2006 1:54 PM  
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Originally posted by Stabmastaarson

I thought it looked kinda neat myself. There must be something cool about it, seeing how Paizo sold over 1,300 of 5000 repaints yesterday.
That's it? I would've swore they would've sold out quick. 5k is not that many for a world wide thing.

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06/02/2006 1:56 PM  
Based on the pictures I've seen I kind of think I like the original over the repaint.

While a knight might have been nicer I'm happy with the sorcerer. I'll certainly be keeping all that I pull unless I need to trade one to get another huge rare I couldn't get otherwise.

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06/02/2006 1:56 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Stabmastaarson

I thought it looked kinda neat myself. There must be something cool about it, seeing how Paizo sold over 1,300 of 5000 repaints yesterday.
That's it? I would've swore they would've sold out quick. 5k is not that many for a world wide thing.

But a lot of people outside the US (like me) aren't going to bother to go through the hassle, then wait months for it to turn up.


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06/02/2006 1:57 PM  
Wow, all the issues people had and not a single comment on this thread about the hate of this mini... Could it be that maybe people are liking the mini? Could it be that people are saying it is not as bad as they thought?

Oh and as an offer, I'll buy any of the repainted ones from Piazo from people at what it cost them. So please order your one mini if you haven't already.

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06/02/2006 1:59 PM  
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Originally posted by RobWreck

PS: Hey Sulaco... I was offering to BUY them at $7 each, not make people PAY me $7 to take it from them. Of course, if they REALLY don't like it that much, then sure, they can pay me to take it from them... [)]


I know, but if the haters really want to put up or shut then they should give them away. That would really prove their point.

Hell, I'll even go one better: I won't even cover their postage. Now it'll actually cos them money to get rid of the figures. That will really show how much they hate it. [)]

Irony aside, even at $7 a pop I don't expect anyone to bite, man. I remember back in the Harbinger and Dragoneye days people claiming that they were throwing away "junk" miniatures, yet the seemed mysteriously reluctant to send them to any fo the dozens of people who offered to take them off their hands and to pay their postage costs. Odd, that.

It's all fine and swell to claim now that they'll be setting teh Mounted Sorcerer figures on fire, but when it comes time to actually make trades a much smaller number of posters will actually part with them in the volumes they claim. Some will, of course, but far more will fail to come through on their promise.

Basically what it gets down to is that people like to talk shit.*


*Me included. [)]

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06/02/2006 2:03 PM  
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Oh and as an offer, I'll buy any of the repainted ones from Piazo from people at what it cost them. So please order your one mini if you haven't already.


I'll give you cost plus 1¢ for them. Take that, striderlotr!

Sorry, had a Price is Right moment there. [)]

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06/02/2006 2:03 PM  
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Wow, all the issues people had and not a single comment on this thread about the hate of this mini... Could it be that maybe people are liking the mini? Could it be that people are saying it is not as bad as they thought?

Oh and as an offer, I'll buy any of the repainted ones from Piazo from people at what it cost them. So please order your one mini if you haven't already.



Maybe all us complainers are getting tired of complaining about the people complaining about our complaining...

But anyway, I will be trading this one off. Buncha stirges for a SoBD? [:)]

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06/02/2006 2:22 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar

I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.



Now wait a minute, it isn't like his chest has a big logo that says "I'm a sorcerer, not a wizard!"



Oh come on now Ian. Just about anyone looking at that will say, "that's a sorcerer." [:D]

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06/02/2006 2:26 PM  
That's my favourite Rare Huge! [:D]

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06/02/2006 2:28 PM  
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But anyway, I will be trading this one off. Buncha stirges for a SoBD? [:)]



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06/02/2006 2:30 PM  
I'm really like it as well.

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06/02/2006 2:32 PM  
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I'm really like it as well.



Which part? Being a sorcerer, or riding a dragon? [)]


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06/02/2006 2:32 PM  
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Originally posted by IanB

quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar

I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.



Now wait a minute, it isn't like his chest has a big logo that says "I'm a sorcerer, not a wizard!"



Oh come on now Ian. Just about anyone looking at that will say, "that's a sorcerer." [:D]



Just because he's not bald and doesn't have a beard is no reason to go making assumptions! [)]

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06/02/2006 2:34 PM  
I'm not a fan of mounted in general, so that would be my only point of complaint. However, I really like the look of this piece, and made a point to order the promo, even though it meant I also had to get a magazine subscription. May not be as useful in rpg, but the rider doesn't hurt it for skirmish, and I just like the look of it. My promo will (hopefully, assuming I get a regular one too) end up on display.

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06/02/2006 2:44 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by IanB

quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar

I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.



Now wait a minute, it isn't like his chest has a big logo that says "I'm a sorcerer, not a wizard!"



Oh come on now Ian. Just about anyone looking at that will say, "that's a sorcerer." [:D]



Just because he's not bald and doesn't have a beard is no reason to go making assumptions! [)]



But.....but aren't ALL wizards supposed to be bald with a beard? [)] [)]

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I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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06/02/2006 2:48 PM  
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That's kinda what I was thinking... if Paizo was able to sell that many that quickly, there has to be some people buying them. Heck, look at the post on here about people clammering for them...
Rob

PS: Hey Sulaco... I was offering to BUY them at $7 each, not make people PAY me $7 to take it from them. Of course, if they REALLY don't like it that much, then sure, they can pay me to take it from them... [)]



I really don't think people would value them at $7 as a huge rare. It's more like $20-30 instead of $40 it would have been had there been no rider. I'm just throwing out numbers here. The market will show the actual value over time. Just because the rider lessens the value, it won't drop the value to a cheap regular rare.

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06/02/2006 2:50 PM  
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Based on the pictures I've seen I kind of think I like the original over the repaint.


I'll second that. It looks pretty good. Makes shaving the rider off of the promo that much more easier... I kid I kid. [)]


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06/02/2006 2:55 PM  
I've already got an un-mounted Huge Black Dragon (Forge of Fury special edition) so one with a rider certainly doesn't bother me much. Besides, my gaming group would be fine using cans of soup for Huge minis. They're just not that picky. [:D]

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06/02/2006 2:55 PM  
I don't dislike it, I would have just preferred it be riderless as that is more useful for RPG purposes.

All minis should be riderless except horses. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

Oh and yes, I did order the repaint mini.[:D]

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06/02/2006 3:04 PM  
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I really don't think people would value them at $7 as a huge rare. It's more like $20-30 instead of $40 it would have been had there been no rider. I'm just throwing out numbers here. The market will show the actual value over time. Just because the rider lessens the value, it won't drop the value to a cheap regular rare.


But some people say they don't value them at all, so Rob's point was that they should jump a $7 for something they consider "worthless."

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06/02/2006 3:08 PM  
I certainly have no complaints... you won't get mine for $7.00! Of course I got one from Paizo as well!

The reality though is you have to average the value of all the huges to understand a broader "value" of a huge. On the face of it, $7.00 makes sense (added price of a standard booster). Of course, with only 8 total figures in a box, you could argue that i might even be a bit higher than that! Say, $8.50 or so...

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Besides, my gaming group would be fine using cans of soup for Huge minis. They're just not that picky. [:D]


Unless they're picky eathers, of course. [)]

So is the "can of soup" line now going to haunt me forever? Maybe we should create a "Dictionary of DDM Slang" with all the words and phrases that have evolved since the game's inception and who/where they came from.

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06/02/2006 3:12 PM  
I like how it looks.

My only complaint is that it should be Manshoon on Black Dragon, not a generic sorcerer

I can pretend I guess. [:)]


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06/02/2006 3:55 PM  
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I don't dislike it, I would have just preferred it be riderless as that is more useful for RPG purposes.

All minis should be riderless except horses. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

Oh and yes, I did order the repaint mini.[:D]



Exactly.

Of course, if you want the rider send to you... (Aside the fact that I can't afford a subscribtion now... *le sigh* So no promo too.)

Personally,

I am getting tired of seeing the people complain about the complainers. Honestly, I'm no big speaker on this forums. I follow them steadily, now however, I'm hesitant to type anything up.

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06/02/2006 4:27 PM  
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I am getting tired of seeing the people complain about the complainers. Honestly, I'm no big speaker on this forums. I follow them steadily, now however, I'm hesitant to type anything up.



You shouldn't be. Just post your mind and move on.
The way I look at it, if someone wants to complain about me, they are free to do so. I don't really care. [:)]

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06/02/2006 4:35 PM  
Ghendaer's absolutely right... people have the right to complain, they have the right to complain about the complainers, and as you've demonstrated, people have the right to complain about the complainers complaining about the complainers. It's a viscious, never-ending cycle... just post your $0.02 and move along, just like everybody else. [:)]
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06/02/2006 7:10 PM  
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PS: Hey Sulaco... I was offering to BUY them at $7 each, not make people PAY me $7 to take it from them. Of course, if they REALLY don't like it that much, then sure, they can pay me to take it from them... [)]


I know, but if the haters really want to put up or shut then they should give them away. That would really prove their point.



Um, what point? That they are morons?

Maybe you (and the other "likers") need to put up or shut up, Sulaco. You like the mini so much, you'll surely trade me $100 worth of minis for it, right? Prove to me that it's a good mini by giving me a sweet deal. That sword cuts both ways, my friend. I mean, I see people who praise a mini up and down, say how cool it is, and yet they actually want to get it from me for its equivalent value! Odd, that. Shouldn't they be showering me with Beholders and Fire Giants for bestowing upon them their heart's desire?

The mini may be worthless to me, but that does not make it without value.

Sort of why we trade things, eh?

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06/02/2006 7:11 PM  
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But anyway, I will be trading this one off. Buncha stirges for a SoBD? [:)]



Deal!


I like the mounted minis, especially this one (assuming, of course, the paint job doesn't suck).




Hmmm. Robby, we really need to talk at the Midnight Release Party...

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06/02/2006 11:00 PM  
No thank, RobWreck, but I'll gladly trade you a mounted black for a huge red dragon instead, and you'll see why putting the rider on the huge black made the dragon much less valuable than if they had done a huge black without a rider (which would have made the huge black eventually have about the same value as the huge red on the secondary market after the set has been out as long as GoL has).


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06/02/2006 11:04 PM  
I'm happy to get it and think its a great repaint. Honestly even if ppl hate the mini, you cant expect ppl to just get rid of it for free or anything like that. I think the $7 deal is much more reasonable. They may hate it, but they did pay money and got it, so they will want something else for it. Just depends on how mucht hey value it, or know how much the other person values it.

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06/02/2006 11:10 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by IanB

quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar

I would have preferred a Knight, or Wizard rider. Otherwise, i think it's okay.



Now wait a minute, it isn't like his chest has a big logo that says "I'm a sorcerer, not a wizard!"



But he's not old and bald, du-uh! [:D]

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