Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5278 Posts
    
The Red Light District
 | | 06/09/2006 9:38 AM |
| So neither of my FLGS's can get retailer kits, as they get stuff from distributors, but people like this guy can. He doesn't even bother to split it up. I hope it rots on his shelf 'till the end of time.....and for $39 that's quite likely.
[/rant off]
http://cgi.ebay.com/D-D-War-of-the-Dragon-Queen-3-PIECE-PROMO-L-K_W0QQitemZ8825955260QQihZ005QQcategoryZ2537QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
|
Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 9:43 AM |
| Oooo, I think once Ian sees this, this sellar is going to be getting a rather perturbed email.
Course I can't see eBay from work, so I'm assuming he's doing a big no no. | |
Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed
Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix
Trade withe me! | |
|
Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 9:48 AM |
| | ooo, I bet that is a big no-no. | | | |
|
zhanteel
Sneak
173 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 9:51 AM |
| | I can't view ebay from work either, but retailer kits on ebay really infuriate me as well. We can't get them here either, which I find equally infuriating. | |
"Call no man happy til he is dead"
-E Cobham Brewer | |
|
Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 06/09/2006 10:00 AM |
| Neither of my LGS can get retailer kits either.
Those who can easily get set posters and repaints take them for granted :( | |
Champion of the Skulk
Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
|
Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5278 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 06/09/2006 10:07 AM |
| | For those who can't see it from work, he is offering what I assume to be an entire retailer kit(10 posters, 10 small fire elementals, and the window clings)for an opening bid of $29.99+ $9 shipping. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
|
kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 10:17 AM |
| | Bust him!! | |
| |
|
jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 06/09/2006 10:32 AM |
| Yep, this one is a little fishy.
I'm fortunate to be in an area where the FLGS can get these items an gladly they're fairly disrtubuted to all who attend the events.
Guys like this are the reason retailer kits have been harder to get. | | | |
|
*censored*
glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 10:41 AM |
| | That's just plain wrong. There are no stores around here that carry promos or kits and then you have scumbuckets that do this. Do bust this store if applies. | |
Trades >> Completed: 49 | Bad: Ø | Pending: 0 | Trade & talk Live on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis | |
|
Anthraxus
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 10:53 AM |
| This one doesn't even look much like a FLGS. How did they get promos?
On a side note, I really hope our FLGS got the small Fire Ele. promos. Gameday coming up in two weeks or so... [:D] | |
Yeah, I really need to work on my H/W list one of these days...
Completed trades: 17 ; Pending: 2
Champion of Yugoloths | |
|
madda
Sergeant
714 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 10:54 AM |
| I know that I'm in a different position from you guys, but as someone who lives way off, have no FLGS or any LGS that have retailer kits (and I tried even convincing them to buy it and I'll pay full costs to get new people to this game) I must admit that if was a little cheaper i might have bought it.
It's a good way to promote the game and I'd love to have people to trade with locally, and have a real-life skirmish game with. Don't get me wrong, I love the community, I enjoy vassal and the EC, I even had a few very successful trades, but let's face it, there's no DDM scene here and I can't do anything. I even proposed putting two months ago a table with my collection at a convention, dedicating the time to teach people the game and create enthusiasm, but nobody listened. The organizers said it's too peculiar for the RP community. It's all War-hammer here. So, I think that having some promotional stuff can make a change, and there isn't any other way of getting it (other than having my own shop - not in this lifetime). Putting WotDQ posters in the few RP conventions here, giving away minis ... This can work. | |
Champion of Cockatrices.
I wish I never wished a wand of wishing. (Wishful thinking.)
Join the Eternal Campaign!
Chat about miniatures. | |
|
zhanteel
Sneak
173 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 11:14 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by madda
I know that I'm in a different position from you guys, but as someone who lives way off, have no FLGS or any LGS that have retailer kits (and I tried even convincing them to buy it and I'll pay full costs to get new people to this game) I must admit that if was a little cheaper i might have bought it.
It's a good way to promote the game and I'd love to have people to trade with locally, and have a real-life skirmish game with. Don't get me wrong, I love the community, I enjoy vassal and the EC, I even had a few very successful trades, but let's face it, there's no DDM scene here and I can't do anything. I even proposed putting two months ago a table with my collection at a convention, dedicating the time to teach people the game and create enthusiasm, but nobody listened. The organizers said it's too peculiar for the RP community. It's all War-hammer here. So, I think that having some promotional stuff can make a change, and there isn't any other way of getting it (other than having my own shop - not in this lifetime). Putting WotDQ posters in the few RP conventions here, giving away minis ... This can work.
I agree that having materials available is important. I can also say that I'd be tempted to bid on an auction like this if it was more reasonable. However, I do believe that auctioning these materials severely hurts the game, because it creates an environment where the kits are very difficult for LGS to acquire, and use to bring people in.
What you say makes a lot of sense. However, having these available for sale doesn't really help your cause of bringing new people. It sounds like your point is you can buy this, and use it as an LGS would. I simply think it's better to make them easier for stores to acquire, and severely penalize people that take advantage of their product for personal profit. | |
"Call no man happy til he is dead"
-E Cobham Brewer | |
|
monster_slayer
Warrior
331 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 11:18 AM |
| | Do you think he would get the message if no one bids on it? | |
Life is like a dogsled team, unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
Champion of the Warforged Juggernaut
Champion of the Purple Worm (Vindicated!) | |
|
Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord
7715 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 11:20 AM |
| | I think support should consider sending support to dry areas. Not sure how this ebayer got the merch, but hopefully it goes to a dry area at the very least (or he gets a slap on the hands for it). | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
|
Queen of Lurkers
lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 11:58 AM |
| This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on. | |
Assoc. Brand Mgr
D&D Minis
Wizards of the Coast | |
|
Username
Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 12:19 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Send some my way, and I'll be sure to distribute them to the MaxMinis community, free of charge! | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
Username - he deals in minis
Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
|
monster_slayer
Warrior
331 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 12:31 PM |
| | Thanks Lidda. | |
Life is like a dogsled team, unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
Champion of the Warforged Juggernaut
Champion of the Purple Worm (Vindicated!) | |
|
jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 06/09/2006 12:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
We've recieved some of these locally and just to let you know they are being fairly destrubuted. Keep up the good work. | | | |
|
jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/09/2006 12:55 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
...However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Hmmm ... encourage and reward play. A whole web site full of dedicated players. I know there could be a connection there somewhere, but I'm just not seeing it... [}:)] | |
Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06)
Please note: The use of the  indicates an attempt at humor ... often a bad attempt.
BAD EBAY SELLERS LIST (CLICK HERE): AVOID AT ALL COSTS
| |
|
Zenako
Commander
3472 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 2:04 PM |
| ummm, do any of us reading this thread REALLY need more encouragement personally...?!
You see a handful of auctions like this every so often, but not enough to think the system is broken and like madda indicated, this is the only way some people can hope to get some of these materials. Usually most sellers break them down into smaller lots of single maps or minis or whatever, but sometimes they just go for the one shot deal. I also suspect that sometimes it is not the store, but a "favored" customer who was handed the booty to "give out" to his friends perhaps and decides to score some coin instead...happens. | |
Built the addition for this addiction, now on to the "gaming table" project....
http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=Zenako last updated 29 May 2006
Set Status: in a nutshell = all of all
In Process trades 0), (Sig last updated 05/29/06) 300 plus Completed Trades -
If I seem scarce at times...blame DDO - Sarlona | |
|
True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 2:15 PM |
| | Honestly this is the only way I can actually get some of those things, like repaints, epic cards, etc. While it sucks that someone is doing something like this, since these kits are only given out to certain ppl, others will suffer and not be able to acquire the same things. So this is a way for others to acquire these things. *shrug* it sucks, but honestly it helps me out. If ppl didnt sell these things, I'd have a hard time having to trade a crapload just for one repaint, epic, etc. | |
Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
|
Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 06/09/2006 2:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Soooo do you send these promo kits overseas? You know, like to...Finland? [:D] | |
"I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield
Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender
Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana.
Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
| |
|
Ragecage
Sergeant
362 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 2:37 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
On a side note, I really hope our FLGS got the small Fire Ele. promos. Gameday coming up in two weeks or so... [:D]
I happen to know for a fact that they did. [)] | |
KoK: MiNi Apostle
CHAMPION of STURM, SOLAMNIC KNIGHT | |
|
gausse
Sergeant
961 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 06/09/2006 2:53 PM |
| | Yeah who better to get promos and free stuff than us crazies. Sign us up! | |
270+ Trades Completed (194 maxminis | 50 wizards | 29 hordelings)
References: http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/view/topic/forumid/53/postid/435268/Default.aspx
H/W List: http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=gausse
Bad Trades: Chaotic Good (Strongbow Lone Eagle), dndonuts, Allard, ScottWallace
Email: gausse2@yahoo.com
| |
|
Deoxy
Warrior
225 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 4:52 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Thanks for the info, Lidda.
And, as always, thanks for your time here at MaxMinis - I think you already know, but it is GREATLY appreciated! | |
No longer active on MaxMinis | |
|
Anthraxus
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 06/09/2006 6:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ragecage
I happen to know for a fact that they did. [)]
I see they did! Now I wonder if I'll be able to get one. Hopefully they'll have a few left.
| |
Yeah, I really need to work on my H/W list one of these days...
Completed trades: 17 ; Pending: 2
Champion of Yugoloths | |
|
PrometheusEnslaved
Sneak
78 Posts
Central Florida
| | 06/09/2006 10:14 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Username
quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Send some my way, and I'll be sure to distribute them to the MaxMinis community, free of charge!
Same here. I'm not a retailer, but I have a fairly large group of local gamers I play with, and most of them can't make it to the bigger cities for the tournaments or go to the sponsor shops where they could get promo/kit stuff. | |
| |
|
Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/10/2006 12:18 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zenako
ummm, do any of us reading this thread REALLY need more encouragement personally...?!
Well, some of us could use them. Granted, players here probably have better than average access, but there are still many of us who don't.
And I might actually have access if I can get my act together before noon on a Sunday. | |
Champion of the Werewolf Lord, Knight of Anything Duergar, and Squire of Things Gnollish
List reset with the start of previews for each new set...got Chainmail®? | |
|
nasamonkey
Warrior
296 Posts
| | 06/10/2006 1:53 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zenako
ummm, do any of us reading this thread REALLY need more encouragement personally...?!
You see a handful of auctions like this every so often, but not enough to think the system is broken and like madda indicated, this is the only way some people can hope to get some of these materials. Usually most sellers break them down into smaller lots of single maps or minis or whatever, but sometimes they just go for the one shot deal. I also suspect that sometimes it is not the store, but a "favored" customer who was handed the booty to "give out" to his friends perhaps and decides to score some coin instead...happens.
i don't fancy the favored customer bit.
its an issue i'm frustrated with my local flgs atm.
But that won't stop me buying D&D. | |
~Copy and open the web addresses/references below in a new browser, i've no idea how to link it. Cheers~
~~~~~~
39 COMPLETED TRADES:-
http://maxminis.com/Trade/MyTrades/tabid/66/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TRADING REFERENCES:-
http://maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/36/forumid/9/threadid/16807/scope/posts/Default.aspx | |
|
Prince o the Raven Banner
Sergeant
606 Posts
| | 06/10/2006 4:29 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lurkinglidda
This is from a marketing kit I send out, not the retailer kits that Ian manages. The majority of stores that receive my kits are under no obligations to distribute the materials to customers, although that is the intended outcome of the mailing. We can ask this person to take down this offer on ebay but he doesn't have to.
I regularly evaluate my program for effectiveness. If it looks like the kits are being used as intended for the most part I will continue sending them out. However, if the program is being abused I'll look for other ways to spend my budget to encourage and reward play. For the time being I'll keep on keepin' on.
Any chance one of these could find it's way to Rules Of Engagement Games in Havelok North Carolina? Care of Steve or Janine (or me). We really would use these to promote the game. We have not been able to get an OP kit. Call Janine she is ripe for a little marketing schmooze, just don't tell her I said that! She has softened on WotC (which is carryover from TSR and has nothing to do with you nice folks) due largely to a somewhat succesful GAMA trip.
Oh yeah, send one to Madda. He has earned it, and if anyone can get skirmish going in Israel it 's gonna have to be him. I'm starting to think that the overseas guys need a little Divine (Marketing) Intervention. | |
Two trades completed!! (Krush,Hides From Hurricanes)
Champion of the Aaracokra
Herald Of Snig Goblin King | |
|