Venport
Sergeant
739 Posts
    
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| | I have a feeling that the displacer beast pack lord is going to be like GOL nightwalker... you only want 1 and he is an uncommon huge, witch means that i will have more than i want of him | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:03 PM |
| | I want at least two. | |
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Kelemvor
Warrior
223 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:04 PM |
| except that the power of the Nightwalker, and it's status in the D&D world, pretty much made it a Unique.
I could see multiple DB pack lords in a single encounter.
The power levels (CR) are much different.
The color schemes are very similar though.
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nyjastul69
Commander
2731 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 06/14/2006 12:06 PM |
| | What is the organization of these per the MM? (they're not in the SRD) | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 06/14/2006 12:12 PM |
| I will want 2 just because it is an Uncommon (same with the Nightwalker).
But after getting the 2 I want I can totally see my doubles rotting in my rade bin years from now.
I dont see these guys ever being traded for Fire Elementals or Fiendish Spiders. | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:14 PM |
| just because they are a pack lord, doesn't mean you don't want a pack of them. I plan on using 4-8 for higher level encounters and I can see 2-3 of them for standard encounters being useful. A packlord is nothing much but an advanced Displacer beast. Whats not to love about that?
The nightwalker was something only rarely faced, let alone in groups. There was a cool adventure in Dungeon this month that featured them in large numbers. You could reasonably use 4 of them at a time. I shudder at the thought though. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 06/14/2006 12:16 PM |
| Yeah, it's one I'd take a couple when I pull them. Any more will be unwelcome.
If I just pulled a single one that would be okay with me. | | | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:21 PM |
| | Funny, I was assuming that the Big Blue Barney was this sets Nightwanker. | | | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:23 PM |
| | Their organization is solitary or pair. That said, I don't see any real reason why you couldn't run an encounter with 4-8 of them, and just call them "advanced displacer beasts" instead of "pack lords". | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 06/14/2006 12:23 PM |
| | I'll probably want 2 Pack Lords, Barney would be more of the Nightwalker for me in this set. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:24 PM |
| Yeah, Big Blue will be the one to Rot I think, I wouldnt mind about 5 or 6 Pack lords.
I however only want about 3 Spider and every Fire Elemental I can get my hands on. | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 06/14/2006 12:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Yeah, Big Blue will be the one to Rot I think, I wouldnt mind about 5 or 6 Pack lords.
I however only want about 3 Spider and every Fire Elemental I can get my hands on.
Heh makes me think, who else's wife is going to hate them with all those giant Spiders lying around the house? [)] | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:40 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Venport
I have a feeling that the displacer beast pack lord is going to be like GOL nightwalker... you only want 1 and he is an uncommon huge, witch means that i will have more than i want of him
No quite. The problem with the Nightwanker was that it cost so much you could never use more than one in a DDM game - this is not so with the Packlord - and the CR was so high that you rarely, if ever, would use more than one in RPG - again, this is not true of the packlord. Coiuple that with the Nightwanker's rather dull sculpt and the fact that GoL was the first huge set and there really is no comparison at all.
The one figure Nightwanker Uber-Dud potential in this set is the Bluespawn Godslayer, but we will have to see the point cost to know for sure. | |
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Bluedevyl
Warrior
262 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Monsoon28
quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Yeah, Big Blue will be the one to Rot I think, I wouldnt mind about 5 or 6 Pack lords.
I however only want about 3 Spider and every Fire Elemental I can get my hands on.
Heh makes me think, who else's wife is going to hate them with all those giant Spiders lying around the house? [)]
Oh yeah, mine is totally... she HATES spiders.
On another note, the Huge fire looks superb, the spiders will be great for roleplaying and have decent stats, the packlord is a very nice sculpt, and I'm even holding out hope that the bluespawn's stats will make me think twice about playing one in skirmish, unlike the Nightwalker. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 12:59 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Funny, I was assuming that the Big Blue Barney was this sets Nightwanker.
same here. The Pack Lord is a cool miniature, and much friendlier to proxy than a Nightwalker.
Blue Barney is Blue Barney. | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 1:19 PM |
| | So much hate for the Godslayer. I'll take them if you don't want them[:D] | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 1:42 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Eliminator53
So much hate for the Godslayer. I'll take them if you don't want them[:D]
If you'll trade for them I'll be remembering you [)] I want 1 and might keep a second one just to repaint (if worth it) anything beyond that is up for trade to those that love ti so much [:p] | |
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trollbill
Warrior
176 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 1:49 PM |
| | I was thinking of putting a few Displacer Beast Pack Lords in the wash and seeing if they shrank down to Large. | |
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 3:39 PM |
| I, too, am after a couple DBPL's. Maybe mroe later, but a pair will suit me early on.
Barney is still a "wait and see" thing. | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/14/2006 3:51 PM |
| | I'll want a couple of Packlords...Barney...only one please! | | | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 3:58 PM |
| | I'm very happy with the DBPL being an Uncommon. They did a good job on the Huges in my opinion. I could do without Blue Godslayer, but I guess I'll live. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6842 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 06/14/2006 4:23 PM |
| | The Pack Lord looks far better than the Nightwalker. I don't think it will be as unpopular. | |
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yack
Commander
3320 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 06/14/2006 4:29 PM |
| | I want 2 pack lords for RPG. I have ran up too 2 Nightwalkers in a encounter also. but the blue Barney is another story...[xx(] | |
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Gristlemane
Sergeant
623 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 4:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Funny, I was assuming that the Big Blue Barney was this sets Nightwanker.
Except that people only want 1 nightwalker, and they want 0 Big Blue Barneys. [:D]
quote:
Originally posted by Eliminator53
So much hate for the Godslayer. I'll take them if you don't want them[:D]
I am going to trade for a bunch of them, then hack them up and make an evil DM chair out of them. I will probably also have to find a cursed d20 or two for it as well. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Monsoon28
Heh makes me think, who else's wife is going to hate them with all those giant Spiders lying around the house? [)]
My wife won't bother, but my mother will hate them [)] | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:06 PM |
| | My plan is this : the DB pack lords are gonna be the pack (so I don't have to bother how many I'll get), and my Harbinger DBeast will be the lord. Isn't that great ? | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/14/2006 7:36 PM |
| Ironic that the huge I get the most use from is the Nightwalker.
Little bit o' sculpy and he makes a great Huge Earth Elemental (or pack of Huge Earth Elementals, though I've only got one finished). He could even be modified as an Air Elemental (with a even more sculpy). I gave up on fire elementals as soon as I found out there'd be one in DQ.
I can think of about a dozen Huge minis that I can change the nightwalker into. Can't think of any I could mod the Pack Lord or Blue Barney into....
Granted, I'll be wanting at least two packlords for RPG. I'm waiting eagerly for the MM4 before deciding how many Barneyspawn I'll want. It could be 1...it could be more. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:42 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by trollbill
I was thinking of putting a few Displacer Beast Pack Lords in the wash and seeing if they shrank down to Large.
Like a t-shirt, they'll probably just torque (twist). | |
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:02 PM |
| I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING WoTC!!!
Keep your new-fangled ideas (blue barney) in your head and out of our miniatures and sculpt us what we already know we want!!!!! | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:05 PM |
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Originally posted by Harneloot
I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING WoTC!!!
Keep your new-fangled ideas (blue barney) in your head and out of our miniatures and sculpt us what we already know we want!!!!!
Yes! I agree! Now, since I like Dragonspawn, and I've never cared much for Gnomes, this means that I like the new set just fine. | |
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MerricB
Underboss
2353 Posts
Australia
| | 06/14/2006 8:25 PM |
| There's an encounter in AoW that has 4 pack lords. I want 'em! [:)]
I'm muchly looking forward to the blue dragonspawn.
Cheers! | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:47 PM |
| Hopefully we'll see a new displacer beast here soon so that we can have more peices that will be useful with the Displacer Beast Pack Lords commander effect. The old displacer beast just doesnt seem to be a peice that is great for epic play. And the Displacer Serpent, while gaining a benefit, isnt very usable in epic play either.
A new Displacer Beast that could hold up in epic would be great. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
Hopefully we'll see a new displacer beast here soon so that we can have more peices that will be useful with the Displacer Beast Pack Lords commander effect. The old displacer beast just doesnt seem to be a peice that is great for epic play. And the Displacer Serpent, while gaining a benefit, isnt very usable in epic play either.
A new Displacer Beast that could hold up in epic would be great.
And that we could...you know...actually aquire for a resonable price [:)] | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 10:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu
quote:
Originally posted by Harneloot
I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING WoTC!!!
Keep your new-fangled ideas (blue barney) in your head and out of our miniatures and sculpt us what we already know we want!!!!!
Yes! I agree! Now, since I like Dragonspawn, and I've never cared much for Gnomes, this means that I like the new set just fine.
Me too. Stupid gnomes.[)] | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/15/2006 1:44 AM |
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Originally posted by bshugg
just because they are a pack lord, doesn't mean you don't want a pack of them. I plan on using 4-8 for higher level encounters and I can see 2-3 of them for standard encounters being useful.
Good point. Never thought of it that way. Still pretty weird to have more Pack Lords than regular Displacer Beasts in your collection though. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:49 AM |
| The Packlord should make a decent regular D-Beast if you're willing to trim the base.
And, yes, I would like to see a new one hit the shelves soon, too.
As for the new "Nightwalker" I certainly don't think it's the Packlord. Blue Barney seems to be the main Huge gathering hate (irrespective of Skirmish stats) right now--So I'd say he's the new title-holder.
And a new Beholder can wait for another year. We've waited a very long time for new D-Beasts, Umber Hulks, our first Gelugons, etc. that I don't feel bad about not seeing a Beholder for a little while longer. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 3:36 AM |
| A new Displacer Beast would make everyone happy, and I bet there's one in the works. From the things that Shoe has said, etc.. I have a feeling it would be another rare though, but that doesnt bother me one bit. I honestly dont need lots of them. Being able to get a few is mainly what I'm after.
As to the Beholder, I'd love to see another one soon. The original is playable somewhat, but is nerfed by a lot. And it seems like the designers were conservative with it, which was smart. But now that they know how things are, hopefully they can make one that isnt so squashed by a Construct/Undead. I still want to see the one where they cut out their central eye, and cast spells. I think something like that would be great for 200 pt play and even epic. Having special abilities and spells would be pretty nifty. I keep hoping for it someday.
I think the only huge that ppl will be annoyed about getting is the Blue Dragonspawn. I just cant foresee liking getting it, or at least getting multiples will annoy ppl. | |
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Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 7:18 AM |
| | They look great, I would be happy with getting a few of them. | |
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Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 12:57 PM |
| Why the hate for the Godslayer? I've heard more people at the LGS saying "I want one of those" about the Godslayer than any other Huge.
Then again, the people at the LGS limit skirmish games to Angelfire and up, so... | |
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:23 PM |
| That's funny, I was assuming that last (huge) set's T-Rex was last set's Nightwalker.
Think about it, the set list on the uncommons is a lot better, I'd say. As has been said, only the Godslayer is pretty unwanted. Last set, as a minimum, few would want more than 1 Nightwalker, or more than, umm, 0? ([:P]) T-Rexes.
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