Kithmaker
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:03 PM |
| Why!? What's wrong with 'y's!? [)]
Funny story: When I was 10 the only adventure I had was writtin in Brittan and I've spelled "gray" G R E Y ever since. [:D] | |
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Bluedevyl
Warrior
262 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:19 PM |
| yeah! I like 'Y' ! [:p]
I dont really much care either way... a y instead of an i , extra u's everywhere, its all good. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 06/14/2006 7:27 PM |
| Put me squarly in the camp of liking "y" in syphon. [)]
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/14/2006 7:29 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
I've spelled "gray" G R E Y ever since. [:D]
I grew up on Joe Dever, so I've almost always spelled "gray" as g-r-e-y [:D]
Since both 'syphon' and 'siphon' are perfectly acceptable spellings of the same word, it doesn't really matter which is used. | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:30 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sirohk
Put me squarly in the camp of liking "y" in syphon. [)]
You tell 'em Syrohk! [)]
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jgsugden
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4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/14/2006 7:41 PM |
| I don't know about British, but...
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Ridureyu
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1622 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 7:51 PM |
| | Siphon seems more familiar to me - but I also spell G-R-E-Y. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/14/2006 7:53 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Ahhhh... where have all the horribly un-PC songs gone?
Same place all the horribly un-PC everything else has gone as well. It's also the place where pop music that doesn't suck wandered off to...[:P] | |
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1622 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:04 PM |
| I tried convincing my church choir to sing "Seven Drunken Nights" a few sundays ago.
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Kithmaker
Commander
3926 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:13 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
Since both 'syphon' and 'siphon' are perfectly acceptable spellings of the same word, it doesn't really matter which is used.
So, it wouldn't have any effect on you whatsoever if the following appeared in an otherwise American English text on DDM (apologies to our friends in the UK, "Down Under," and elsewhere):
During the second round of the booster draught tournament, player A's skilful manoeuvre placed his Orc Serjeant near the centre of the board. He began to cheque line of sight, analysing the move to ensure he had not leapt too far forwards so that his opponent's pieces might plough through his defences. Nought but a routeing Kobold Miner in sight, he signalled that he had finished his move -- the inflexion in his voice revealing his desensitised demeanour. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/14/2006 8:19 PM |
| No need to be snarky [:D]
Since I can read middle English fluently, I don't see the problem (aside from the fact that the topic was 'siphon' vs 'syphon' not archaic English rhythm patterns vs. contemporary English rhythm patterns)[:p]
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True_Blue
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2386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:44 PM |
| | heh I guess the y just doesnt matter much to me. It really wont affect much, and I dont see it as "wrong" =). But.. I guess the i would be better =) | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:51 PM |
| | Hmmm I've always spelled it Syphon. And Gray has always looked silly to me. | |
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 8:59 PM |
| | Let's call the whole thing off and release the stirge in Blood War.... [:P] | |
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maijstral
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2105 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 10:16 PM |
| I was born in England and lived there till age 6,my mother is English, so to a certain extent the different spellings don't bother me.
I have a few first edition TSR modules that were written in England,or by English writers and not proofread very well, you can tell by the colour and armour spellings among other grammatical differences. . | | | |
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| | 06/14/2006 10:33 PM |
| Realy? I've always spelled it Grey. I didn't know/notice that gray was the americanized version.
quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr
Why!? What's wrong with 'y's!? [)]
Funny story: When I was 10 the only adventure I had was writtin in Brittan and I've spelled "gray" G R E Y ever since. [:D]
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/14/2006 11:19 PM |
| Kithmaker,
Several of the words you used in your fanciful example there were not alternate spellings, but homonyms. Similar spellings and pronounced the same but having a different meaning. Cheque, for example, and Nought. Cheque is only the same as US check in the sense of a monetary instrument drawn on a bank account. Nought meaning nothing is archaic. In modern UK English it would be spelled naught.
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1687 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 11:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
During the second round of the booster draught tournament, player A's skilful manoeuvre placed his Orc Serjeant near the centre of the board. He began to cheque line of sight, analysing the move to ensure he had not leapt too far forwards so that his opponent's pieces might plough through his defences. Nought but a routeing Kobold Miner in sight, he signalled that he had finished his move -- the inflexion in his voice revealing his desensitised demeanour.
Ummm, with the exception of "cheque" (which has a different meaning than what you've used it for here) it actually took me a couple of read-throughs to even catch most of your "improvements." Maybe it's a canuck thing, but I wouldn't have any problem with a paragraph like that. [:P] | |
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vanrulzz
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| | 06/15/2006 12:11 AM |
| | I like Siphon better than Syphon, but i do spell G R E Y | | | |
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Kithmaker
Commander
3926 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 12:12 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Omand
Kithmaker,
Several of the words you used in your fanciful example there were not alternate spellings, but homonyms. Similar spellings and pronounced the same but having a different meaning. Cheque, for example, and Nought. Cheque is only the same as US check in the sense of a monetary instrument drawn on a bank account. Nought meaning nothing is archaic. In modern UK English it would be spelled naught.
Cheers [:)]
I know -- hence the apology. [)] I am, after all, an English major. | |
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Corim Danex
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6842 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 06/15/2006 12:20 AM |
| | I just think Grey looks cooler than Gray. | |
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Sneak
75 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:17 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Corim Danex
I just think Grey looks cooler than Gray.
To the surprise of absolutely noone, I agree. [)] | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:37 AM |
| I've typically used "grey" for some years. It doesn't typically bother anyone though. "Gray" for whatever reason just doesn't look right.
And I only stumbled a couple times on Kithmaker's post. Once on "cheque" and once on "serjeant". Then again, I was one of the few people in my English classes that had very little difficulty with Shakespeare. | |
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Prince o the Raven Banner
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606 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:31 AM |
| Up until this thread I've always thought GREY was a colour and GRAY was the last name of a cute girl from the fourth grade.
Yep, the Saltmarsh modules got me as well. Colour and armour, though I have switched the spellings around in recent years as a dirrect result of shorthand.
I agree Syphon looks cooler.
Although SERJENT looks ridiculous. How many spellings are there for this?
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 06/15/2006 6:33 AM |
| Was that GREY RENDER or GRAY RENDER? [:p]
Do you have any Grey Poupon? [xx(]
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 10:18 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
I hope that the Stirge card doesn't actually have the almost never-used spelling "syphon."
Why? That's how the word is spelled pretty much everywhere except the US - including up here in Canada.
Serjeant - this is a variant, syphon is not.
cheque - that spelling only applies to bank orders
routeing - only applies to data routing
nought - archaic
Apart from those glaring errors everything else is fine by me - finer, in fact, than having to adjust to US spelling all the time. The Proper English/US English divide was (and continues to be) the greatest pain-in-the-ass when doing freelance writing for US companies. I keep having to go back and triple-check everything to make sure it has been "Americanized".
It's really not a big issue either way but it is nice to see proper spelling every once in a while, so "syphon" is cool by me. | |
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One_Wing
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494 Posts
London
| | 06/15/2006 10:24 AM |
| | Syphon and grey are the way i've always spelt them. Also, syphon is probably the way they will spell it, since on the MTG card "s(y/i)phon soul" it is spelt with the Y | |
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salmander
Sneak
140 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 11:30 AM |
| | I have always spelled it grey and for some reason I have always spelled it armour, which always sets off my spell checker. | |
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glumag
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5968 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 11:39 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by dariustad
Let's call the whole thing off and release the stirge in Blood War.... [:P]
here here! [)] | |
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orcmonk220
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1608 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 11:41 AM |
| | Syphon and Grey for me. I spell 'color' C-O-L-O-U-R too! | |
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Kithmaker
Commander
3926 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 12:38 PM |
| Sulaco, it is a variant if it can be spelled that way. And, just as you find it a pain to "Americanize" words, we editors here find it a pain to "Britishise" words.
And, since it's an American product, I just think it should be spelled (not spelt [)]) the American way. Though if what One_Wing mentioned about that Magic card is true, I don't have high expectations for the Stirge card. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:23 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by orcmonk220
Syphon and Grey for me. I spell 'color' C-O-L-O-U-R too!
I spell bolour with a K. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/15/2006 2:14 PM |
| Yeah, Go Armour Class!
Learning RP was obligatory for me, but I was used to American English from tv. I still often mix them up. Prefer RP though.
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Talistran
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310 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 6:53 PM |
| Salmander stated: quote:
I have always spelled it grey and for some reason I have always spelled it armour, which always sets off my spell checker.
Then simply push the "Add" button next time and it will never bother you again!!!! :)
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Idzy
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3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/16/2006 10:44 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
Since both 'syphon' and 'siphon' are perfectly acceptable spellings of the same word, it doesn't really matter which is used.
So, it wouldn't have any effect on you whatsoever if the following appeared in an otherwise American English text on DDM (apologies to our friends in the UK, "Down Under," and elsewhere):
During the second round of the booster draught tournament, player A's skilful manoeuvre placed his Orc Serjeant near the centre of the board. He began to cheque line of sight, analysing the move to ensure he had not leapt too far forwards so that his opponent's pieces might plough through his defences. Nought but a routeing Kobold Miner in sight, he signalled that he had finished his move -- the inflexion in his voice revealing his desensitised demeanour.
there would be nothing wrong with that paragraph other than most of the words you are using as examples don't have the same meanings as the words they are replacing.
Siphon and syphon do, as do color and colour
draught is not the same as draft, just as won and one are not the same. Cheques are for making payments etc.
as I see everyone else has alredy said.[:)] | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/16/2006 10:52 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kithmaker
booster draught
Never thought about the word before.
Probably refers to checkers, but I tend to make the connection that minis inside are getting chilly because both top and bottom end of the booster are opened.
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orcdoubleax
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694 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 12:09 PM |
| I think Canada has a unique perpesctive on this. We commonly get both spellings of common words like color/colour here. Both the American and the actual English. So we are generally aware of both spellings. (unless like me you can't spell to begin with)
I think in general writing both are acceptable, but proper English should still be the legal and business form.
American spellings after all is just spelling mistakes that have become accepted after decades of use.
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