jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
    
Walnut Creek, CA
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| Anyone know anything more about this product? I can't seem to figure out anything more about it than the listing...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786943092/sr=8-1/qid=1150333624/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3273130-0357733?%5Fencoding=UTF8
I'm ordering 1, just to sate my obsessive compulsive side, but I wish there was a little more info available... | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:12 PM |
| | It's got dice, character sheets, a soft cover PHB, and an Aberrations booster. | | | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:13 PM |
| maybe its the new D&D basic set and someone got there wires crossed and listed it by the description rather than name.
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:18 PM |
| | Nope, it's more like the sequal to the Basic Set. | | | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:26 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
It's got dice, character sheets, a soft cover PHB, and an Aberrations booster.
How did you figure all that out? | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:30 PM |
| | I'm a delegate, and I've seen them at my FLGS. | | | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:33 PM |
| | http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/953927200 | | | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:35 PM |
| | Thanks! I looked at that page for 15 minutes from top to bottom and I couldn't find that anywhere. In your opinion is it worth the price? | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:38 PM |
| | If I were new to RPG, I'd snatch it up instantly. I still may buy it. It's definitely a bargain compared to buying the hardcover PHB, which costs the same. | | | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:43 PM |
| I appreciate your advice. By the way, do you know anything about this and what it contains?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786939443/qid=1150335586/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7905226-2338259?v=glance&s=books
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 9:44 PM |
| | Only that it's going to have new minis, one of which is the Large Blue Dragon. | | | |
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DarkWhite
Warrior
185 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 11:18 PM |
| This was revealed at Year of the Dragon D&D Breakfast at GamingReport.com back in March.
http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/v/gamatradeshows/gts2006/wizardsbreak/IMG_4770.JPG.html
Note: Free D&D Miniatures booster included with every Player's Kit - Limited Time only.
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smilinIrish
Sergeant
913 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 11:41 PM |
| | OK, so we know that the free booster won't be a WODTQ, since it it $13 value. Probably a wardrums or underdark booster? Maybe an older (angelfire?) that they are trying to clear off the shelves. | |
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lantern314
Sergeant
684 Posts
| | 06/14/2006 11:41 PM |
| They got these in at my FLGS today. It is in a box that you could easily mistake for the basic game, except for the Aberrations booster shrinkwrapped to the side. Inside is a softcover version of the Player's Handbook, some character sheets, and a solo adventure.
The art on the box shows an Elf Pyromancer, a Half-orc monk, and an Axe Sister fighting a Displacer Beast. | |
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SJPadbury
Warrior
188 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 12:43 AM |
| | That piece of art sounds like one of the ones that was in Dragon to advertise D&D Minis and 3.5 right when they came out. | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 12:48 AM |
| Thanks for the post! I was planning on picking this up for my daughter who's been getting into D&D a bit. Didn't realize that it came with minis for a limited time, I was gonna wait till Christmas and would have missed out. So I placed it now and will just put it away. Thanks!
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/15/2006 1:01 AM |
| | Just saw one at the FLGS today. Boy, Aberrations really did not sell well. | |
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realmaster
Underboss
2017 Posts
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| | 06/15/2006 2:34 AM |
| | I just bought two of them for about 50% off. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 3:32 AM |
| | I think I'll look into this. I'll probably end up getting one, might as well. Maybe I'll get lucky and get a Green Dragon or something in the booster. | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 6:55 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by DarkWhite
This was revealed at Year of the Dragon D&D Breakfast at GamingReport.com back in March.
http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/v/gamatradeshows/gts2006/wizardsbreak/IMG_4770.JPG.html
Note: Free D&D Miniatures booster included with every Player's Kit - Limited Time only.
For those of us behind firewalls, can someone copy and paste what this says? Thanks | |
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jedijon
Sergeant
474 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 7:10 AM |
| | The gaming report info is basically just a poster with the salient points listed. BTW--EVERY one of these items will have a booster in them. The limited time part is their way of informing you that there's only a limited run of this particular item as it will soon be replaced by the new basic game set in November. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 7:26 AM |
| Hmmm I still need a PHB...(yes I said that) I may pick this up at some point...
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/15/2006 7:31 AM |
| How much are they charging for the general package? Aberrations is getting hard to get here. Don't need another PHB though.
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 8:18 AM |
| I'm going to give this a pass. Even at Amazon's price, it's just too gimmicky this close to WotDQ. I don't need more dice, a soft-covered PHB, or the sheer annoyance of opening an Aberrations booster.
Now, if these show up at HPB a couple years down the line, I might just get one for $10 if it's still sealed (and has the booster). [:P] | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 8:22 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jedijon
The gaming report info is basically just a poster with the salient points listed. BTW--EVERY one of these items will have a booster in them. The limited time part is their way of informing you that there's only a limited run of this particular item as it will soon be replaced by the new basic game set in November.
I don't think that the new Basic Game will replace the Player's Kit. The new Basic Game will be a newer version of the old Basic Game, but it won't have a full PHB. | | | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 8:39 AM |
| The players kit is different from the basic game. The players kit was designed to give the new player something to work from at an inexpensive price. So that is why the minis, dice, character sheets, and paper bound PHB.
The basic game was to give new players a way to quickly learn how to DM an adventure. So they gave you some premade characters, mini, dice, and an adventure. The cool thing is that they are redoing it and changing it up slightly. The addition of a large blue to the kit is very cool.
From looking them over, I would say that you really need this product if you have never played D&D before. It is a fantastic entry point. If you have played D&D, then they are good for an introduction for new players or for some specific minis. Personally I like the product and hope they take it a step further. I'd like to see them make some mini adventures and package them with some of the minis you might incounter in the adventure. Something that players could buy and play right out of the box. | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/15/2006 9:52 AM |
| Looks like amazon has raised the price on this one already.
It was 15 and change when I first clicked then I looked for it on Amazon.ca and it was 26 and change so I went back to Amazon.com and it is now 18 and change. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 9:56 AM |
| quote:
Elf Pyromancer, a Half-orc monk, and an Axe Sister fighting a Displacer Beast.
Hrm.... I never take it as a good sign when they start to recycle artwork. That's said, this particular piece didn't see wide use, and it is pretty sharp!
As stated, this isn't a product that will be pulled when the new basic game comes out...
WotC has a strategy for introducing new players to the game (Basic Set), and then bringing them forward. The Players kit is the next step. I find it interesting (though not surprising) that they are bundling some mini's with the kit, as more and more we are seeing DDM as a central component to the D&D brand, as opposed to a seperate product line.
In any event, WotC would next want those consumers to go buy the core books, and more mini's, and then finally, once the addiction is complete, cases, and a copy of each newly released book....
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/15/2006 10:17 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
Elf Pyromancer, a Half-orc monk, and an Axe Sister fighting a Displacer Beast.
Shouldn't there be a Harbinger booster then in stead of an Aberrations one? [:p]
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Ardus
Sergeant
364 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 06/15/2006 10:34 AM |
| Interesting to see that the soft cover PHB is trade paperback size, like a novel.
Here is the Paizo write up. Also, they don't mention the minis being attached.
http://paizo.com/store/brand/dungeonsDragons/roleplayingGames/wizardsOfTheCoast/coreBooks/v5748btpy7oqf
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 06/15/2006 10:43 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ardus
Interesting to see that the soft cover PHB is trade paperback size, like a novel.
Here is the Paizo write up. Also, they don't mention the minis being attached.
http://paizo.com/store/brand/dungeonsDragons/roleplayingGames/wizardsOfTheCoast/coreBooks/v5748btpy7oqf
Trade paperback isn't the size, it will be the same size as a regular PHB just with a soft cover. The box and the aberations booster are shrinkwrapped together, my FLGS has them instock already. | |
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jedijon
Sergeant
474 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:23 PM |
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I don't think that the new Basic Game will replace the Player's Kit. The new Basic Game will be a newer version of the old Basic Game, but it won't have a full PHB.
Sorry, but for what it's worth I think it's pretty apparent that the EXACT equivalent of the old "basic game" is the new "basic game". However, my earlier post is absolutely valid. They're limited run, and it's an entry level product for D&D. Very slightly not the same--yet 100% identical in intent and very similar in content as well. Both include gameplay instructions, and minis. . . both are good for people starting out. I'd even hazard that the marketing department gauged how many to make via the criteria that they're sold out by the time the basic game hits so they don't compete with themselves.
Someone else mentioned the sales record of Abr., my opinion would be that this is a creative way to deal with a surplus of unsold aberrations boosters--since we "know" that they don't reprint sets. | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 1:51 PM |
| I'm not sure what your point is, Jedijon. My point was that the Basic Game and the Player's Kit are two different products with different contents, and the new Basic Game won't replace the Player's Kit.
My understanding is that the "limited time" element is for the special promotional bundle (i.e. the free Aberrations booster). Once those are gone, the Player's Kit will continue to be available (without the booster).
As for the differences between the old Basic Game and the new Basic Game, the only thing I know for sure is that the new Basic Game includes a Large Blue Dragon. This change leads me to believe that the adventure in the new Basic Game will be different, too. The box art also indicates that there will be an entirely different set of minis included in the new Basic Game. I agree that the new Basic Game is intended to replace the old one. | | | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:03 PM |
| At a guess I'd say it is one of these…
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/953927200
and one of these…
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndmin/950500000 | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:11 PM |
| | Sorry if this sounds picky, Sulaco, but we already know that they're Aberrations boosters. | | | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:16 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest
Sorry if this sounds picky, Sulaco, but we already know that they're Aberrations boosters.
Not picky, just pedantic. [)]
My point was that it was the Player's Kit and a booster, something I figured was obvious from the name "D&D Player's Kit with Free Miniatures Booster." I really didn't give a rat's ass what set it was from when I made the post. | |
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johnny.quest
Underboss
1386 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 2:20 PM |
| | Persnickety? [)] I'm fresh out of rat's asses myself. | | | |
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realmaster
Underboss
2017 Posts
Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics
| | 06/16/2006 2:21 AM |
| | does anyone have a link to the new basic game pic? I have seen it in one of those game events but I cannot find it. | |
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