ehren37 Sergeant
 642 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 10:00 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by elder_basilisk
quote: Originally posted by ehren37
[quote][i]Meepo is nothing to write home about, Drizzt is terribly overpriced and competitive, so paying a premium to bring them into CG doesnt make a lot of sense.
I've got to disagree here. Meepo is money--especially for a drizz't band. At +13/+8 for 15 damage, Meepo is pretty much as good as it gets for a LG 30 point beater in attack and damage. He's not too bad for CG either. (Since CG is also short 30ish beaters other than Rikka). Toss Drizz't on top of that and he's money.
Except you're paying roughly 90 points for a crap unit. DEspite what fans want to believe, Drizzt isnt a good unit. For 120 points, you can do much better. | | Completed trades: Zarnof, Salmander, Pigsnot, qillan_dvra, SilgentG, Ironfist Boulderbender, robdaman.
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 jgsugden Commander
 4320 Posts



 Walnut Creek, CA
 | | 06/16/2006 10:11 AM |
| Power combo for the Prerelease:
Aspect of Bahamut (318) Bluespawn Godslayer (145 / 463) 37 points of tile grabbers/activations.
That will be a warband that can do some damage... and turtle up pretty well... | | Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06) Please note: The use of the indicates an attempt at humor ... often a bad attempt. BAD EBAY SELLERS LIST (CLICK HERE): AVOID AT ALL COSTS
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5278 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 06/16/2006 10:19 AM |
| I am glad the tree thing sux. I want to pick up a few and after the release dies down, $3-4 each sounds good.
I've got a good idea to use them, the Twig Blights, Warbound Impalers, Nentyar Hunters and Wood Woads as minions of these Evil Treant type things with a cone of Thorns breath weapon in RPG. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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johnny.quest Underboss
 1386 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 10:30 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by SneakyJoeKDB
Although, these last few spoilers havent been much to look at, the WereRat Rogue looks to be an aggressively costed 9 point mini. Looks like a solid 9 point option for LE.
Yep, and there's really nothing else LE has in that point range. | | | |
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Chairman7w Sergeant
 484 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 10:32 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Ethandrul
...but you will see what a dirty little girl she can be.
LOL!! There's just something terribly... funny... about that sentence. Heee heee. | | Dr. Simon: A phrase that's encoded in her brain, that makes her fall asleep. If I speak the words, "Eta... Jayne: Well don't say it! Zoë: It only works on her, Jayne. | |
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Nixlord Underboss
 2468 Posts



 Quezon City, Philippines
 | | 06/16/2006 10:39 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by johnny.quest
quote: Originally posted by SneakyJoeKDB
Although, these last few spoilers havent been much to look at, the WereRat Rogue looks to be an aggressively costed 9 point mini. Looks like a solid 9 point option for LE.
Yep, and there's really nothing else LE has in that point range.
Ummm... the old reliable Barbarian Merc has been there since Dragoneye. [)]
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Tooninki Warrior
 272 Posts



 Finland
 | | 06/16/2006 10:39 AM |
| | yup! Wererat rogue is better than Hobgob impailer, he only loses 3 ac and mobility. | | Life is... Vindicated AtG shot: Shadow Giant (Death Titan)
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Tooninki Warrior
 272 Posts



 Finland
 | | 06/16/2006 10:41 AM |
| [/quote]
Yep, and there's really nothing else LE has in that point range. [/quote]
Ummm... the old reliable Barbarian Merc has been there since Dragoneye. [)]
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Only have 1 of those, and it does NOT have sneak attack... [:p] | | Life is... Vindicated AtG shot: Shadow Giant (Death Titan)
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Username Warlord
 5692 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 10:46 AM |
| | Faerie fire - why don't drow have that?! | | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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PatEllis15 Commander
 4463 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:06 AM |
| WEW: Perfect example of built in conservatism with new spells/abilities.
I'd have expected this figure to be priced this way had this guy been published in archfiends, or GoL. As it stands, he'd be an excellent piece if he had scout, and cost 20 points. 20 points is probably low enough to take the chance, and with scout, and 65 hit points, he'd hold the bridge long enough for reinforcements to arrive...
34 points?! I'm left shaking my head...
Pat E | | "Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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Venport Sergeant
 739 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:09 AM |
| | Just making sure the Blue barnys Outsider and dragon Slayser both work together so they should be Hitting AoB and AoT for 40+ right? | | Sacramento DDM http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16854
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Richard II Commander
 3663 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:13 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Venport
Just making sure the Blue barnys Outsider and dragon Slayser both work together so they should be Hitting AoB and AoT for 40+ right?
Yuppers. | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:28 AM |
| Yup. The War Weaver is the Arcane Ballista's best friend.
Senario - Opponent bases Arcane Ballista, Dim Hop and blast away.
| | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Tgt Sergeant
 574 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:29 AM |
| | IN the "commander 8!" topic @ skirmish discussion, someone posted Barney stats with cleave. Could someone double check this? | | VINDICATED Champion of the Mounted Blackguard
DoD called shot: Phrenic Manticore They´re taking the Hobbits to Isengard! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1752017962119496176 | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:35 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Tgt
IN the "commander 8!" topic @ skirmish discussion, someone posted Barney stats with cleave. Could someone double check this?
No Cleave. | | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Daezarkian Sneak
 110 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 11:37 AM |
| Barney is Fearless!!!!!!
Daezarkian Demonic Accountant | | Daezarkian Demonic Accountant | |
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Tooninki Warrior
 272 Posts



 Finland
 | | 06/16/2006 11:41 AM |
| | BTW Are we going to see non epic Blackguard on nightmare? | | Life is... Vindicated AtG shot: Shadow Giant (Death Titan)
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Gloom_ Sergeant
 583 Posts



 | | 06/16/2006 12:21 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Username
Faerie fire - why don't drow have that?!
Because it would make Each Drow cost 1-2 more points (or something like that) | | | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:32 PM |
| So, what's the mystery 4th Epic
Blackguard Tordek Slaughterstone .....? | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 06/16/2006 12:33 PM |
| Wow again. [:0] More stats. [^]
I like the Blackguard on Nightmare. But its cost of 68 pts may be a little high. [V]
Cleric of Laogzed looks, interesting.
| | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Felagund Sergeant
 922 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:36 PM |
| Hm, does the non-epic blackguard really not fly?
Lucky is great! I've been waiting for an ability like this for a while. Hopefully we'll see it on a 30-60 point creature in the future.
Poison Dusk Lizardfolk has no ranged attack? Aaargh!
I was really counting on the Yuan-Ti and Cleric of Laogzed being commanders. Now, we have a very small number of commanders, which is going to be rough for limited games.
That's 8 total commanders: Aspect of Bahamut Aspect of Tiamat Displacer Beast Pack Lord Blackguard on Nightmare Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat Warden of the Wood Bonded Fire Summoner Cleric of Syreth
CE doesn't even get a commander!
Thanks again for the hard work, KMK. The figures still missing are Demonic Gnoll Archer, Dragonwrought Kobold, and the epic stats for the fourth non-huge epic figure.
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memphisto Warrior
 213 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:36 PM |
| | Thanks for all the work, KMK! I think the only one missing is the Demonic Gnoll Archer and the 4th epic? | | Completed trades: arbados Completed 23 trades on Hordelings www.hordelings.com - http://www.hordelings.com/directory/profile.php?user_id=429 | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:37 PM |
| And nothing really inpresses me in the new set of stats. The Yuan-ti gives another nice factor for poison themed bands
Epic Poison Band
Yuan-Ti Sorcerer 51 Yuan-Ti Abbomination 48 Huge Fiendish Spider ? Drow Arachnomancer 52 other poison inducing fodder
Would give an added +10 damage on any poison (barring acid immunity) with a +4 to the DC.
Sounds kinda fun and casual, but it's getting there.
| | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:39 PM |
| What did I tell ya? On a whole this set ROCKS!!! From a totally skimish Point of view this is how I humbly broke down the set--
Competive minis for 200pt or 500pt Tordak Aspect of Bahamut Aasimar Fighter Meepo (Warband morale +2; although conditional) Golden protector Slaughterstone Eviserator Bonded Fire Summoner War Weaver Spellscale sorcerer Small Copper Dragon Warden of the Wood Huge Fire Elemental Azer Fighter War Ape Bluespawn Godslayer Aspect of Tiamat Diseased Dire Rat Cadaver Collector Dracolich Greenspawn Razorfiend Eldritch Giant Dread Warrior Large Green Dragon Witchknife (Spell Silencer) Small Black Dragon Redspawn Firebelcher Ogre Skimisher Sorcerer on Black Dragon Small Fire Elemental Tundra Scout
Minis with potential and needs playtesting ; Tier 2 maybe Doom Fist Monk (He has Evade Damage) Griffon Cavalry (although I think this will be a sleeper hit) Storm Archer Black Guard on Nightmare (same as Griffon Cavalry) Displacer Beast Pack Lord Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat (Uthok's half brother) Cloudreaver Blackspawn Exterminator Hunting Hyena Yuan-ti Sorcerer Demonic Gnoll Archer
Not necessarily Tier 1 but soooo much fun (for RPGers too) Tavern Brawler Purple Worm Huge Fiendish Spider Mountain Troll Stirge (Althoug I might be wrong in placing it in this category) Whitespawn Hordeling Twig Blight
Luke warm Kobold Zombie Poison Dusk Lizardfolk Wererat Rouge Dragonwrought Kobold
Huh??? Dragonborn Fighter Wizened Elder Watcher
| | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Pegasus Knight Sergeant
 896 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:40 PM |
| | Excellent. Now I know what to buy for WotDQ. Thank you again, KmK! | | - Irrationally Fanatical Champion of Pegasus-mounted cavalry - Proud member of Team Low Tier Beasting: I play CG as my main faction! - Garland, TX 2006 Qualifier Champion My trading thread: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19725 | |
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Brimulk Sneak
 162 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:40 PM |
| I think I'll try to include the Cloudreaver in my warband, just so I can do my best Napolean Dynamite impersonation when I use his ability.
"Dang, I missed that save. Let me try again...luckiee." | | Vindicated Champion of Green Slaad Champion of the Feyr Correct Unhallowed Called Shot - Bone Naga Night Below Called Shot - Skulk | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:43 PM |
| Yuan Ti Sorcerer is a Commander 3 - how'd I miss that???
| | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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ktatroe Sergeant
 577 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:43 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by memphisto
Thanks for all the work, KMK! I think the only one missing is the Demonic Gnoll Archer and the 4th epic?
We're down to missing just: Dragonwrought Kobold, Demonic Gnoll Archer, and the 4th non-Huge Epic. So close! Thanks, KMK!
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
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djtool Sergeant
 584 Posts



 Crystal MN, USA
 | | 06/16/2006 12:43 PM |
| i'm glad the trog cleric isn't a commander. I can't wait to add him to my weak-ass (but fun) LE trog band.
Doom fist monk might be interesting since he benefits from urthok.
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ktatroe Sergeant
 577 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:45 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kissmykiester
Yuan Ti Sorcerer is a Commander 3 - how'd I miss that???
What's its commander effect?
| | H/W: http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/profiles/profile.php?user=ktatroe | |
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 Avatar of the Tank Newtoncain Commander
 2985 Posts



 Land of 10,000 taxes
 | | 06/16/2006 12:53 PM |
| | Is the Nightmare/HBG in the XML thread the Epic one @ 195pts? | | They just don't know what's good in life...Conan, tell them what is good in life. To rip the boosters. To count the minis spilled out before you, and to hear the indifference of the women... | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:53 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by ktatroe
quote: Originally posted by Kissmykiester
Yuan Ti Sorcerer is a Commander 3 - how'd I miss that???
What's its commander effect?
I've updated the list...followers get attack +2 and damage +5 against poisoned enemies. | | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:53 PM |
| Hmmm I like the Gnoll Archer
And the CE of the Yuan-Ti fits in nicely with my band above. | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:55 PM |
| | Has the Tundra Scout been revealed yet? Is that this 4 huge mini that everyone's talking about? | | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 12:57 PM |
| | No, there are apparently 4 Non-Huge Epics floating about somewhere, and we know only three. Tundra Scout being a Huge of course, and we've already seen that one. | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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Kissmykiester Sergeant
 525 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 1:08 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Vash
No, there are apparently 4 Non-Huge Epics floating about somewhere, and we know only three. Tundra Scout being a Huge of course, and we've already seen that one.
Well...Large isn't huge right?
So that's Tordak (M), Slaugherstone Eviserator (L), Blackguard on Nightmare (L) and Griffon Cavalry (L)...is that Right? | | Vassal Tournament Constructed Group# 1 & 2-Champion "You are, what you do, when it counts". ------------------------- Sucessful Trade - Pan(2), Lexander (2) Trilistria (1) | |
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Eliminator53 Sergeant
 628 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 1:10 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kissmykiester
quote: Originally posted by Vash
No, there are apparently 4 Non-Huge Epics floating about somewhere, and we know only three. Tundra Scout being a Huge of course, and we've already seen that one.
Well...Large isn't huge right?
So that's Tordak (M), Slaugherstone Eviserator (L), Blackguard on Nightmare (L) and Griffon Cavalry (L)...is that Right?
The griffon Calvary is the other one?[?] | | Champion of Tavern Stripper Knight of Knights Squire of Death Giants Somethin-or-another of Big Arse Swords | |
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trollbill Warrior
 176 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 1:12 PM |
| | Too bad the Demonic Gnoll Archer is a commander. Otherwise he would be even sweeter with the Yuan-ti Half-blood Sorcerer. | | | |
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Tooninki Warrior
 272 Posts



 Finland
 | | 06/16/2006 1:13 PM |
| Griffon cav has epic version? want to see that 1! [:0] Thanks for the non epic Black guard! [:D] | | Life is... Vindicated AtG shot: Shadow Giant (Death Titan)
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 06/16/2006 1:22 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kissmykiester
quote: Originally posted by Vash
No, there are apparently 4 Non-Huge Epics floating about somewhere, and we know only three. Tundra Scout being a Huge of course, and we've already seen that one.
Well...Large isn't huge right?
So that's Tordak (M), Slaugherstone Eviserator (L), Blackguard on Nightmare (L) and Griffon Cavalry (L)...is that Right?
If that's the case you haven't shown us the Giffon's Epic stats yet | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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