KAGE
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| Someone just posted that underdark is now out of print.
I don't believe this "out of print" propaganda!
Did you see the pictures from winter fest? (or what ever it was called)
They did a vintage game, and they had stacks and stacks and stacks of harbinger and dragoneye. Where were they hiding those?
And how long have they said aberrations has been out of print? Yet now with the player kit, you get a "free" aberrations booster.
I bet they have a warehouse full of mini boosters.
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jgsugden
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| | 06/15/2006 2:36 PM |
| | Out of curiosity... why not post in that thread instead of starting a second thread to discuss the first thread's subject matter? | |
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glumag
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| | 06/15/2006 3:11 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Out of curiosity... why not post in that thread instead of starting a second thread to discuss the first thread's subject matter?
Out of curiosity, why validate this thread by replying to it? [:p]
Two different subjects! one talks about underdark being out of print while this one discusses the warehouses full of OOP DDM [:p] | |
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| | 06/15/2006 3:15 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by glumag
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Out of curiosity... why not post in that thread instead of starting a second thread to discuss the first thread's subject matter?
Out of curiosity, why validate this thread by replying to it? [:p]
Two different subjects! one talks about underdark being out of print while this one discusses the warehouses full of OOP DDM [:p]
So what you're saying is...is that somewhere theres a warehouse full of Archfiends and Harbinger.
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Dragon Snack
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| | 06/15/2006 3:16 PM |
| There is probably a good amount left over from the origional sets. There is always a certain amount of 'overrun' that companies keep for future reference (or use).
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "propaganda" though...
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Sharn Inquisitor
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| | 06/15/2006 3:16 PM |
| | Yeah, I too have wondered about these mysterious old boosters and promos showing up at random...and events that aren't even that great. | | | |
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jgsugden
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| | 06/15/2006 3:20 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by glumag
quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Out of curiosity... why not post in that thread instead of starting a second thread to discuss the first thread's subject matter?
Out of curiosity, why validate this thread by replying to it? [:p]...
Perhaps to ask a question... | |
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Ridureyu
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| | 06/15/2006 3:24 PM |
| I think it was adequately answered in the other thread - thetre is a difference between having a few dozen boosters left and having enough cases to fill a store's order.
I do want to know - where di dyou guys here that Underdark was out of stock?
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| Haha, and I've heard that they have still have cases of many of the promo figures. Even the ones where they've only released 12 of them or so.
I don't know. I'd imagine that Wizards would keep a few cases of any of the old sets around. Not enough to actually sell again, but for prizes or other stuff. You know, exactly as they have been doing. | |
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PatEllis15
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| | 06/15/2006 3:31 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Yeah, I too have wondered about these mysterious old boosters and promos showing up at random...and events that aren't even that great.
Ah... your not talking about WF right? I've had a blast the last 3 years at this event!
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striderlotr
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| | 06/15/2006 3:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Yeah, I too have wondered about these mysterious old boosters and promos showing up at random...and events that aren't even that great.
Ah... your not talking about WF right? I've had a blast the last 3 years at this event!
Pat E
Truely one of the best events going. I'm sure he must have been refering to sme little con in some unnamed town... | |
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striderlotr
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| | 06/15/2006 3:43 PM |
| | Well out of print means just that... it is not being printed any more and the company will not be sending more to the distributors. Does this mean the company may not have a few horded away for a later date??? It would be foolish to hold a few dozen cases back just for events like the vintage at Winterfantasy. | |
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True_Blue
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2385 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 4:19 PM |
| | I didnt think Underdark would be gone this quick. I bet its still all right a lot of places. But I can see how it'd go quick just because it was a pretty good set, so demand might make it go quicker than any of us expect. | |
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PaSquall
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1395 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 4:25 PM |
| | I don't think underdark is out of print. All the stores I know have it in stock, and almost all the singles too. | |
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| | 06/15/2006 4:28 PM |
| | Well, UD isn't being made anymore, but the key is that it is not out of stock. The last set I heard that was out of stock (and thus gets harder to find) was Deathknell. | |
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RobWreck
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| | 06/15/2006 4:38 PM |
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Originally posted by striderlotr
Well out of print means just that... it is not being printed any more and the company will not be sending more to the distributors. Does this mean the company may not have a few horded away for a later date??? It would be foolish to hold a few dozen cases back just for events like the vintage at Winterfantasy.
In the big scheme of the production run, what's wrong with WotC holding back a dozen or so cases for special events and stuff? I'm sure there's been thousands and thousands of cases made (I mean, Paizo got 5,000 HBDw/S, and those aren't even 1 per case), so the market's gotten enough to pretty much meet the demand. What would 2 dozen cases more really bring to the total distribution? But on the flip side, spread those cases out over a few years at special events, NOW you've got something that'll generate buzz FAR more than the simple profit on 15 retail cases...
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Sulaco
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| | 06/15/2006 4:42 PM |
| | "Out of print" does not mean "out of stock" or "banished from existence," it simply means that the producer no longer has it available to suppliers and retailers. | |
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zenthrus
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| | 06/15/2006 4:52 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by KAGE
I don't believe this "out of print" propaganda!
I bet they have a warehouse full of mini boosters.
A tin-foil hat moment, to be sure [:P]
I'd guess that the "Underdark is out of print" comment was generated by a seller whose distributor has run dry. Not too shocking considering that Underdark has the Iron Golem, Balor, Ankheg, medium-sized spiders, etc, etc, etc. It's a close run with Angelfire for 'most-useful set to RPGers.' It also was the first set that had across-the-board high-quality sculpts and outstanding paintjobs (Angelfire was close, but not quite there). I didn't bother getting into DDM until Underdark was released.
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jgsugden
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| | 06/15/2006 4:53 PM |
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There is an incredible comment in this thread that breaks down the difference between 'out of print' and 'out of stock'. The guy that wrote it must be a genus.
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Sharn Inquisitor
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1623 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 5:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
quote:
Originally posted by Sharn Inquisitor
Yeah, I too have wondered about these mysterious old boosters and promos showing up at random...and events that aren't even that great.
Ah... your not talking about WF right? I've had a blast the last 3 years at this event!
Pat E
No. I would never bash on Winter Fantasy, in fact, I'm dying to go next year. No, I was refering to a certain promo that is quite valuable showing up at a local 'mini-con' that a store held...the owner of which I tend to detest. Good for me since I know it's value and got some for selling purposes...but a random drop location IMO. | | | |
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| | 06/15/2006 5:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by KAGE
Someone just posted that underdark is now out of print.
I don't believe this "out of print" propaganda!
Did you see the pictures from winter fest? (or what ever it was called)
They did a vintage game, and they had stacks and stacks and stacks of harbinger and dragoneye. Where were they hiding those?
And how long have they said aberrations has been out of print? Yet now with the player kit, you get a "free" aberrations booster.
I bet they have a warehouse full of mini boosters.
If you had read the other thread you would realize that "out of print" doesn't necessarily mean "hard to get". Underdark is still plentiful. | |
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bshugg
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| | 06/15/2006 8:49 PM |
| | I was the head judge for WF and spent a lot of time with the WoTC guys organising the big event. Ian Richards had a couple of cases of Harbinger and Archfiends and thats it. He actually had to scrimp for enough product to offer it as prizes as well. They don't keep much on stock of the older stuff. Even their private collections are out of Harbinger and Archfiends. They could of been BS'ing me but they had no reason too. Ian could of sold that stuff on ebay for a tidy profit, instead he put it up at a tournament with a 20$ entry fee. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
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2838 Posts
| | 06/15/2006 9:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
There is an incredible comment in this thread that breaks down the difference between 'out of print' and 'out of stock'.
Shhh. Don't go throwing facts into the argument. You'll only confuse people. | |
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jgsugden
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| | 06/15/2006 9:36 PM |
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Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
...Shhh. Don't go throwing facts into the argument. You'll only confuse people.
Yes, I won't. | |
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Iuztheevil
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173 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 2:53 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by bshugg
I was the head judge for WF and spent a lot of time with the WoTC guys organising the big event. Ian Richards had a couple of cases of Harbinger and Archfiends and thats it. He actually had to scrimp for enough product to offer it as prizes as well. They don't keep much on stock of the older stuff. Even their private collections are out of Harbinger and Archfiends. They could of been BS'ing me but they had no reason too. Ian could of sold that stuff on ebay for a tidy profit, instead he put it up at a tournament with a 20$ entry fee.
I was at Wotc today and if they have cases of Harbinger sitting around they are hiding them from me. Trust me.. I've looked [:)]
On the other hand, they had a lot of WotDQ. The set is pretty awesome, and the flavor text.. wow.. whoever wrote that is just a genius. [:D]
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zenthrus
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| | 06/16/2006 5:45 AM |
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Originally posted by Iuztheevil
they had a lot of WotDQ. The set is pretty awesome, and the flavor text.. wow.. whoever wrote that is just a genius. [:D]
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True_Blue
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| | 06/16/2006 6:00 AM |
| | Question is, do you think they'll hold back some more cases of say GoL, etc in order to do it again? =) I genuily hope so and hope that the event using old boosters goes on for awhile, even if it isnt from the first set or so. It was a great idea. | |
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| | 06/16/2006 6:52 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
Question is, do you think they'll hold back some more cases of say GoL, etc in order to do it again? =) I genuily hope so and hope that the event using old boosters goes on for awhile, even if it isnt from the first set or so. It was a great idea.
I hope so. I'm also hoping that they bring some to Winter Fantasy 07. I'm seriously thinking of going. My cousin lives about 15 minutes away.
Of course, that's if they hold it in the same location as last year. | |
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| | 06/16/2006 8:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
Question is, do you think they'll hold back some more cases of say GoL, etc in order to do it again? =) I genuily hope so and hope that the event using old boosters goes on for awhile, even if it isnt from the first set or so. It was a great idea.
I hope so. I'm also hoping that they bring some to Winter Fantasy 07. I'm seriously thinking of going. My cousin lives about 15 minutes away.
Of course, that's if they hold it in the same location as last year.
WF 2007 is confirmed to still be in Washingotn/Arlington. I think (PatEllis will probably remember) that they confirmed it will even be in the same hotel.
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striderlotr
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3370 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 8:47 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lynchpt
quote:
Originally posted by Ghendar
quote:
Originally posted by True_Blue
Question is, do you think they'll hold back some more cases of say GoL, etc in order to do it again? =) I genuily hope so and hope that the event using old boosters goes on for awhile, even if it isnt from the first set or so. It was a great idea.
I hope so. I'm also hoping that they bring some to Winter Fantasy 07. I'm seriously thinking of going. My cousin lives about 15 minutes away.
Of course, that's if they hold it in the same location as last year.
WF 2007 is confirmed to still be in Washingotn/Arlington. I think (PatEllis will probably remember) that they confirmed it will even be in the same hotel.
Pat Lynch
That is correct. They confirmed it and said that the hotel was doing some renovating to make the area nicer... maybe even some carpeting.
I'm hoping they can do another Vintage event this year. I think it would be great if they could some how do a GoL and Archfiends booster event, but Harbinger would be great if they still have some. | |
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PatEllis15
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4462 Posts
| | 06/16/2006 9:56 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by striderlotr
That is correct. They confirmed it and said that the hotel was doing some renovating to make the area nicer... maybe even some carpeting.
I'm hoping they can do another Vintage event this year. I think it would be great if they could some how do a GoL and Archfiends booster event, but Harbinger would be great if they still have some.
Heh... Carpet?! who needs no stinking carpet!
Funny thing is, that this will be the 3rd year in Crystal City, but it will be the first year that the event will actually be held in the conditions that WotC originally wanted!
If I had to guess, we won't see another Harbinger or Archfiends vintage event.
BUT, don't discount the possibility of an Aberrations/Dragoneye Vintage at WF 07, and maybe a GOL/WotDQ in 08!
It'll be good to see you at a WF again Ghendar!
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