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06/17/2006 5:09 AM  
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Originally posted by jgsugden

My ONLY complaint re: the Frosty-Furry: You need to be able to surround him with Frost Giants on foot. Considering that the only other Frost Giant was a rare in GoL, and most people have no more than 1 or 2, I really wish we'd get an uncommon Frost Giant Warrior to use as ground troops next to this gy for high level encounters...


There are even people who have no GoL frost giant...
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Yup, moi aussi. No frost giant.

I didn't complain about them. In fact, I didn't read complains about them too. Ok, the only rider I don't like is the one on the dragon. But, that's just personal preference. I'm not saying it has to be that way because I don't like them. *shrug*

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06/17/2006 5:47 AM  
Well to look on the bright side of life, WoTC might be waiting to release the uncommon mounted soldier before doing any more humaniods on horse...[?]

It does seem looking at the WoDQ that ol' proverb of being careful for what you wish for in case you get it. People were saying mounted Minis. They got a good ratio of them in this set :)

I`ve really haven't seen much hate for the Tundra Scout I like it, and if I could, I'ld get a six pack of them too.

The griffon pose I`m gonna reserve judegment until I see what is the final product in the box. A lot depends on production paintjob, bend factor and all that drek.

Hating the idea of that mounted LG succubus before a normal one mind you.

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06/17/2006 9:06 AM  
I love it,I need 2 to go with my 8 Frosties.

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06/17/2006 9:25 AM  
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Originally posted by zoroaster100

I think most of the people who were "dying" for mounted minis wanted PC types and NPC types mounted on horses, plus maybe a goblin mounted on a worg (but the right size) and maybe PC types mounted on griffons or hippogriffs (but not doing acrobatics). But I think that because that is what I want as a DM, and I run pretty typical campaigns similar that that of many other DMs, I think.



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06/17/2006 10:14 AM  
I have never wanted mounted minis. I do not play the skirmish game. Every mini I buy is used exclusively for RPG. I value my minis based on the likeliness of them being used in RPG.

How likely is it that I will ever need a frost giant on a wolly mammoth if I don't specifically design an encounter for one?

Not bloody likely. I don't want to design an encounter just so I can use a mini. That means I will have went out of my way to accomodate a mini I didn't want in the first place that will go back to being useless after I run this encounter I specifically designed for it.

That being said, the tundra scout looks pretty darn good.

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06/17/2006 11:52 AM  
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Originally posted by Thailfi

I have never wanted mounted minis. I do not play the skirmish game. Every mini I buy is used exclusively for RPG. I value my minis based on the likeliness of them being used in RPG.

How likely is it that I will ever need a frost giant on a wolly mammoth if I don't specifically design an encounter for one?

Not bloody likely. I don't want to design an encounter just so I can use a mini. That means I will have went out of my way to accomodate a mini I didn't want in the first place that will go back to being useless after I run this encounter I specifically designed for it.

That being said, the tundra scout looks pretty darn good.


I remember reading some adventures in Dungeon with Frost Giants riding mammoths,but feel free to trade me your extras![)]

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06/17/2006 12:01 PM  
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I love it,I need 2 to go with my 8 Frosties.



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06/17/2006 1:09 PM  
I for one hope they do not do "generic PC/NPC on horse" minis. I have one (MP). Maybe do an archer, and a spellcaster. But after that, I want to see the fantastic. I think this could turn into the same problem I have with Dwarf Minis. Too little diversity makes it uninteresting. I love the Drow Mounted Patrol. And if they ever make an uncommon Frost Giant, then the Tundra Scout will see play at my table (assuming my group stops dying.)

I am not a fan of the Clawfoot, but only because I don't run Eberron. Do I want it removed from the set? No. Even though I hate it, and will trade away my all duplicates, I realize it is interesting to SOME portion of the target audience. If I had the choice to remove it, I wouldn't. It will help sales, which in turn will help DDM in general.

I know of at least 2 DM's who will be buying this set to get some of those. They do not play DDM, but they do run Eberron. This is a piece they want and will use. I'm assuming there are customers who may do the same for the Tundra scout. I know there are those who will for the Displacer Beast Packlord. Sometimes it's about pleasing everyone some of the time.

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06/17/2006 1:38 PM  
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Come on, it is a Frost Giant on a Mammoth! You can't beat that kind of cool except with maybe a Ninja AND a Pirate riding on a T-Rex.



What makes you think that a pirate and ninja could ever put their philosophical differences aside long enough to ride that dino together? Sheesh!

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06/17/2006 1:41 PM  
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Originally posted by zoroaster100

I think most of the people who were "dying" for mounted minis wanted PC types and NPC types mounted on horses, plus maybe a goblin mounted on a worg (but the right size) and maybe PC types mounted on griffons or hippogriffs (but not doing acrobatics). But I think that because that is what I want as a DM, and I run pretty typical campaigns similar that that of many other DMs, I think.



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06/17/2006 1:46 PM  
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Originally posted by Vash



When we asked for mounted minis we didn't want all these Niche mounts. We wanted generic soldier mounted on generic horse so we could have a calavary. Tundra Scout, Talenta Halfing, Mounted blackguard, SoBD, while all cool, are too niche for the general RPG populace. And I think that's the problem.



I stand corrected. Even truer words (for me anyway) have rarely been said.

Halfling on Dino? Useless for RPG.
Soldier mounted on horse? Highly useful for RPG.

I know getting a soldier mounted on a horse is not as flashy or glamorous as frosty on mammoth, or griffon rider ballet dancer but much more useful for us RPGer's.


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06/17/2006 4:04 PM  
I dont hate the Tundra scout, but i still want to have Eldrich giant and Dracolich more
PDK mounted on warhorse in future sets would be nice...

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06/17/2006 4:09 PM  
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Come on, it is a Frost Giant on a Mammoth! You can't beat that kind of cool except with maybe a Ninja AND a Pirate riding on a T-Rex.


What makes you think that a pirate and ninja could ever put their philosophical differences aside long enough to ride that dino together? Sheesh!
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06/17/2006 4:16 PM  
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I love it,I need 2 to go with my 8 Frosties.



8 Frost Giants. Nice.

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06/17/2006 4:39 PM  
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I WANTED AN UNMOUNTED MAMMOTH, DANG IT!


http://cgi.ebay.com/Toy-dinosaur-Wooly-Woolly-Mammoth-set-of-2-very-nice_W0QQitemZ6066623466QQihZ009QQcategoryZ19170QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.toyosaurus.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=501-16517&Category_Code=PA-SchPreh&Store_Code=TOY01

I *think* they are about huge size. [EDIT] The first ones, I mean. The one in the second link is Gargantuan.

Personally, I love the mini. Sure, it would have been nice to get another frost giant, but they will make another one eventually.

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06/18/2006 12:04 AM  
I wasn't dying for mounted stuff but I really like Snig and the Tundra Scout. The dino and others don't do much for me.

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06/18/2006 2:24 AM  
Maybe the generic mounted calvary is coming when they find an effective way to make them uncommon?

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06/18/2006 2:34 AM  
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Patience, Grasshopper. We got UC Hill Giants. We'll get UG Frost Giants. Same with UC Displacer Beasts. We'll get 'em. All in good time.


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06/18/2006 3:34 AM  
I'd be happier with a regular Frost Giant on foot. I don't see myself needing one mounted on a wolly mammoth in the foreseeable future. Sometimes I like the weird stuff Wotc includes in D&D minis, I'm not fond of several of the more off-beat figures in this set.

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06/18/2006 4:03 AM  
I think the Mounted Frost Giant looks great. The sculpt is amazing and the paint job is beautiful. But there are so many other huges I would rather have that it just becomes a so-so piece for me. For the most part I pretty much love all of the mounted minis. I just wish they weren't so hard to get. I'm still waiting for a mounted good Dragon.

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06/18/2006 4:16 AM  
I'm a little excited to get 2-4 these beasts.

I'm already envisioning an adventure where my players are caught running in an open icy tundra (where else? [)]) and a group of pursuing frost giants led by 1-2 Tundra Scouts are charging at them from a great distance.

Yes, definitely inspired by the charging Mumakil vs. Legolas scene in Return of the King.

And c'mon, doesn't the image below inspire us to want more Tundra Scouts? [)]





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06/18/2006 6:59 AM  

quote:
Originally posted by zoroaster100

I think most of the people who were "dying" for mounted minis wanted PC types and NPC types mounted on horses, plus maybe a goblin mounted on a worg (but the right size) and maybe PC types mounted on griffons or hippogriffs (but not doing acrobatics). But I think that because that is what I want as a DM, and I run pretty typical campaigns similar that that of many other DMs, I think.





A lot of time my PCs seem to be mounted. Horse would probably be the most generic form of transport in my fantasy campaigns.
So I wouldnt mind a range of PC types on horse.

Plus the charging factor :)



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06/18/2006 12:15 PM  
I really like the Tundra Scout. You can't go wrong with a Frost Giant Mounted on a Mammoth. I am really excited for the halfing on Dino and the Blackguard on Nightmare too. Please keep the mounted minis coming.[:D]

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06/18/2006 9:41 PM  
Would have prefered a Mini of Kurzgoth (A Fire Giant Half Fiend) riding Tusk (Fiendish Elephant) from City of the spider queen

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06/18/2006 10:01 PM  
Well, I'm actually all for UNCOMMON mounted minis! I have plenty of player-character-type minis on foot, almost any race/class combination, or at least proxies for that, so bring on the mounted ones! I mean, the party I'm DMing for right now has: male human warrior, male elf ranger, female drow wizard, male elf paladin (yes, mostly newbies). I wanted a mounted mini for each of them! The griffon riding chick rocks, her stance is pretty aggressive, as I'd expect from a heavy-armor-wearing, sword-wielding woman on a flying, menacing creature! Tundra Scout is gonna freak them out as soon as I place it on the table, and the sorcerer dude? I'm getting the promo and the regular, no suger please!
Actually, I'm thinking on starting a campaign: AT LEAST 5 mounted minis per set! There are so many I want: dragon-riding knight/paladin, druid on dire tiger, uncommon worg rider, and plenty of people on horses: rangers, sorcerers, rogues (not joking), any class and all the races! How about a spider riding drow? Mounted minis rule, please keep them coming!

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06/19/2006 3:42 AM  
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Would have prefered a Mini of Kurzgoth (A Fire Giant Half Fiend) riding Tusk (Fiendish Elephant) from City of the spider queen



That was my called shot back when it was just a silhouette (sp?) in the preview X! I am working towards the adventure myself, and I know what I'll use as a proxy [)]. Maybe somebody can try a repaint? Only problem would be the mammoths hair I guess.

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06/19/2006 4:33 AM  
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And c'mon, doesn't the image below inspire us to want more Tundra Scouts? [)]


Sure - if they were uncommon. I can't afford several Huge rares of same type, especially if there are others I'm interested in too. If there was uncommon Frost Giant in the set too, I would be more interested.

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06/19/2006 5:04 AM  
When I first saw the pic of him, I was awed. I mean I think its just a wonderful idea. Yes its kind of a niche peice, but the coolness factor for me makes it a perfectly acceptable rare. I hope we do end up getting some more Frost Giants to go along with 1-2 of the Tundra Scouts =)

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06/19/2006 7:32 AM  
I also like the Tundra Scout alot- ditto for most of the other
mounted minis. The Sorceror on teh Black Dragon however represents
a missed opportunity. It could have been one of hree things which
would have been better appreciated.

1. Some Dragonlance mini mounted on a dragon: would shut the Dragonlance faction up and give us a far mroe interesting mounted
warrior on a mini in my opinion

2. Githyanki Sorceror on Red Dragon: less complaints since we already have a unmounted Red Dragon Huge- and would get another Githyanki

3. Goblin Ranger on Black Dragon (medium): This would be useful in
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that medium mounted Goblins could be made.

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06/19/2006 8:59 AM  
While I would like to see an umounted mammoth. I love the Tundra Scout. It looks great!!!

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06/19/2006 10:20 AM  
I personally like the tundra scout model and all of the mounted minis in this set. I'm not saying that there perfect or that there aren't other minis I'd have rather seen but they are all acceptable. My only complaint is the pose of the griffon rider. If she had been sitting properly on that griffon I think it could have been T5he (non-huge) chase rare of the set. As is she looks a bit silly. Still love the pose of the griffon.


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06/19/2006 11:57 AM  
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My only complaint is the pose of the griffon rider. If she had been sitting properly on that griffon I think it could have been T5he (non-huge) chase rare of the set. As is she looks a bit silly. Still love the pose of the griffon.


The funny thing is that if she had been sitting "properly" on the griffon (as in 90º perpendicular to the back) it would have looked silly cos she'd be about to fall off the damned thing.

I showed the DQ poster to a mate of mine on the weekend and the first figure he singled out as incredibly cool looking was the griffon rider…and he hates both griffons and elves. He loves the pose on it.

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06/20/2006 12:05 AM  
I have no love for Mammoths myself and only kind of like the Frost Giant as my favourite "core" Giant, if you will. If WotC puts the two together, not a heck of a lot can be done other than trading for them if you want them and getting rid of them if you don't like them. Whatever floats your boat, really. I don't know if I like it but I will admit that although I know that for myself, personally, I must wait for the miniature to be witnessed by my own eyes instead of relying on photos, I also know that the warband skirmish stats are very tempting and could turn the tide, justifying a potential dislike I might have for a paint job of which may not suit my preferences. If in-hand, it looks good and plays good, then fine. I'll keep it and maybe get another. Although admittedly, I would have been far happier with a Death Giant or a Geriviar(spelling?) but too bad for me so I can cry myself a river for all I care(In case you are wondering, yes, I am being sarcastic towards myself and have no sympathy for my preferences not manifesting themselves into physical formations of plastic. Think of Hermes from Futurama. One of the episodes give more insight to how I'm thinking.) so I have to get over it as well as anyone else who would have liked to see something different and has the supposed "Mammoth hate". Anywhoooooo, I think that's the end of my rant as I've filled my quota today with mostly verbal arguments, so yeah..........that's life and if you don't like it, don't involve yourself in this. For everyone who loves it, alrighty then. I'm glad WotC is making at least some people happy.

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06/20/2006 7:31 PM  
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I love it,I need 2 to go with my 8 Frosties.



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06/20/2006 7:36 PM  
Bravo to all things Pachydermical. I even like the Thaskor.

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06/20/2006 7:58 PM  
I know he may not be overly RPG useful He also may not be the best skirmish piece(We'll soon know that) But I still love this mini cause he just looks so damn cool!


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06/21/2006 8:57 PM  
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Originally posted by Dordledum

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Originally posted by Dargoth

Would have prefered a Mini of Kurzgoth (A Fire Giant Half Fiend) riding Tusk (Fiendish Elephant) from City of the spider queen



That was my called shot back when it was just a silhouette (sp?) in the preview X! I am working towards the adventure myself, and I know what I'll use as a proxy [)]. Maybe somebody can try a repaint? Only problem would be the mammoths hair I guess.

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06/22/2006 7:39 AM  
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Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra

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Originally posted by orcmonk220

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Originally posted by WakeXX

I love it,I need 2 to go with my 8 Frosties.



Now all people without Frost Giants have a reason to blame WakeXX

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Okay! WakeXX, you are the sole reasoning behind every angry moment I've experienced concerning DDM...............or rather will experience because I've never had a truly angry moment.[:p]



I once had 9 each of the Fire and Frost giant. However, I have sent some of those off to valued trading partners and now only have six of each. So, that makes me much better than the totally EVIL WakeXX. [)]

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