kilamanjaro
Sneak
90 Posts
    
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| | My routine on the last four sets has been to buy 3 cases and then trade for the 2-4 rares I didn't pull. I mostly use them only for roleplaying and the number of minis I'm storing is getting a little crazy. My wife is beginning to complain. [:)] Are there any online retailers that sell complete sets? | |
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Venport
Sergeant
739 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 5:40 PM |
| | on e-bay there are however they do cost.... i think the way you do it is the most inexpensive way | |
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bigbadjon
Sergeant
546 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 5:40 PM |
| | You can buy complete sets on ebay pretty reasonably, as long as you but them when they first come out. Complete sets also tend to cost about the same or less than 2 or 3 cases. | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 5:53 PM |
| If I didn't love opening boosters soo much, and like the idea of "winning" by great pulls, I'd prolly go the complete set route.
However, I love opening the boosters | |
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xuthal
Sergeant
649 Posts
Boulder, CO
| | 06/19/2006 6:49 PM |
| I second that. Pulling boosters is half the fun. I trade away my extra rares and sell what's left as lots on ebay (and use the money to buy . . . more rares).
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/19/2006 6:54 PM |
| Typically, Ebay sets tend to balance out at a price that is about 80 - 100% of the cost of buying a number of boosters (at internet prices) providing a number of rares equal to the number of rares in the set.
As an example, in a typical set like Angelfire (which has 24 rares), 2 cases of boosters costs about $190 and provides 24 rares. A set of Angelfire on Ebay typically sells for ~ $160, which is ~85% of the cost of 24 boosters.
For WotDQ, if this trend held true, the sets should end up around 85% of $215, or ~$185... but it is unclear whether that will actually occur, or when prices will drp that low, if they do drop that much...
Oh, wait....
Right here | |
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shadroth
Warrior
210 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 7:54 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Typically, Ebay sets tend to balance out at a price that is about 80 - 100% of the cost of buying a number of boosters (at internet prices) providing a number of rares equal to the number of rares in the set.
As an example, in a typical set like Angelfire (which has 24 rares), 2 cases of boosters costs about $190 and provides 24 rares. A set of Angelfire on Ebay typically sells for ~ $160, which is ~85% of the cost of 24 boosters.
For WotDQ, if this trend held true, the sets should end up around 85% of $215, or ~$185... but it is unclear whether that will actually occur, or when prices will drp that low, if they do drop that much...
Oh, wait....
Right here
That auction has $30 shipping added to it though, which is very expensive, so it adds up being too much anyway. If you find the right seller, you can normally get free shipping on buying cases. | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/19/2006 7:57 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by shadroth
...That auction has $30 shipping added to it though, which is very expensive, so it adds up being too much anyway. If you find the right seller, you can normally get free shipping on buying cases.
Normally? I don't think it is more common to see free shipping than to see paid shipping on cases.
However, $30 is a bit much for shipping. In a fwe weeks you'll probably see complete sets selling for ~$190 including shipping, but right now, this is a pretty good deal. Two weeks ago, complete sets were selling for $350... | |
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Zenako
Commander
3472 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 8:30 PM |
| EBAY Set pricing...as of last week or so...
<br>6/8/2006 17:53:00 PM<br> last 10 Average<br>Harbinger $640.55<br>DragonEye $301.96<br>ArchFiends $504.77<br>Giants of Legend $351.89<br>Aberrations $154.82<br>DeathKnell $175.79<br>AngelFire $174.31<br>Underdark $167.41<br>WarDrums $175.14<br>
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 10:01 PM |
| Well, going by Zenako's and jgsugden's figures, I guess I'm going with cases. I can get almost three cases for the price of a single set. [v]
After that, I guess it will be singles to try to fill things out. I just know that I'm going to end up with 3 each of the Redspawns and Griffon Riders, though. [v] | |
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ruhk69
Warrior
205 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 10:25 PM |
| | On Ebay you will also find whole sets that give you 1 set rares, 2 sets uncommon, 3 sets common. I've even seen a set with the gargantuan dragon in there for WotDQ. | |
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
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kilamanjaro
Sneak
90 Posts
| | 06/19/2006 10:55 PM |
| | Cost isn't my primary concern. I'm a little leery of ordering a set off ebay. I do love tearing up the boosters. I love trading for that last rare almost as much. I may have to start selling off some of my extra minis on ebay just to make space for more minis. It's kind of sad, really. | |
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Jeb McDonald
Sergeant
403 Posts
Central New Jersey
| | 06/20/2006 1:41 AM |
| | I've done the same thing over the past few months and feel pretty good about it. Starting with Dragoneye, I decided I wanted 2 of every rare/uncommon and 4 of every common. I was running out of space and cash very quickly, so I sold some on ebay in themed lots which got a good deal of interest from buyers. Now I buy a little more than I think I need with the plan to sell on ebay or trade here at maxminis. | |
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Thokk
Warrior
321 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 9:32 AM |
| | I have bought the last 4 sets as complete sets. Other than some minor snafus no problems. And I usually buy a few boosters here and there for extras and trades. As to the cost of it, especially with this set, people seem to be using bad math. In order to get a full set, you will need 24 boosters minimum. Even with a 40% discount, that will still run you 288 dollars not counting shipping. And this in no way guarantees you the minis you want. Conversely, for 260 or so, you can get a complete set, plus extra uncommons (this includes huges), commons and an extra booster. Booster opening is fun when you pull a second Beholder but not when you pull a Pheorlach or some other crap rare instead. Just my 2 cents. [:D] | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 9:50 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zenako
EBAY Set pricing...as of last week or so...
<br>6/8/2006 17:53:00 PM<br> last 10 Average<br>Harbinger $640.55<br>DragonEye $301.96<br>ArchFiends $504.77<br>Giants of Legend $351.89<br>Aberrations $154.82<br>DeathKnell $175.79<br>AngelFire $174.31<br>Underdark $167.41<br>WarDrums $175.14<br>
Hmm I find it interesting that the second cheapest set on there is Underdark, yet it's "sold out" before Angelfire, introduced Epics into skirmish, has two FR mainstream Icons, is the set that houses the current metagame powerhouses (Marut, HH, Kord, DC), and has a few great RPG pieces (Roper, Balor, Iron Golem)
I may have to pick up a second set just out of principle, and before the price skyrockets for the above reasons.
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 10:16 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Thokk
I have bought the last 4 sets as complete sets. Other than some minor snafus no problems. And I usually buy a few boosters here and there for extras and trades. As to the cost of it, especially with this set, people seem to be using bad math. In order to get a full set, you will need 24 boosters minimum. Even with a 40% discount, that will still run you 288 dollars not counting shipping. And this in no way guarantees you the minis you want. Conversely, for 260 or so, you can get a complete set, plus extra uncommons (this includes huges), commons and an extra booster. Booster opening is fun when you pull a second Beholder but not when you pull a Pheorlach or some other crap rare instead. Just my 2 cents. [:D]
Why will you need 24 boosters minimum? There's only 18 non-huge rares and you should get 6 huge rares in 18 boosters. | |
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Thokk
Warrior
321 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 10:37 AM |
| | Forgot about the normal and huge rare in same booster. That brings it down to 218 or so plus shipping. You will still be short rares so unless you have ones to trade and find people to trade with you have to buy singles or more boosters. Comes down to more of a time and effort saving. But cost is about the same or less. [:)] | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 10:40 AM |
| According to WotC, you can complete a set in 3 perfect cases, however unlikely that would be.
I have 2 cases ordered now, I'll see how they look when I tear into 'em before I decide on more. | |
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kilamanjaro
Sneak
90 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 11:26 AM |
| I have 3 cases on order and was thinking about adding a fourth. If I go the ebay route it will make my FLGS cry, but it looks like I'll actually be spending less money.
It's true that there's nothing worse than opening a booster and pulling your fourth Half Giant Psychic Warrior. I'm torn. | |
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Thokk
Warrior
321 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 12:26 PM |
| | Kilimanjaro, look at it this way. Do you want one of every piece? Are there some you want more than 2 or 4 of? And most importantly do you have people at the FLGS if not the FLGS itself to trade away those extra crap rares for the ones you want? The complete sets give you one of every rare and you can get the ones with extra commons and uncommons for not much more. Then you only have to worry about getting extras of pieces (like the 5 total huge fire elementals I want [:D]). And I usually end up getting a few boosters in prerelease or whatever. If you truly enjoy getting all the boosters and have plenty of trade partners, go for it. I just like having the whole set first, then using old and new extras to get the rest, rather than finishing first then getting extras. Good luck either way! And if you go sets and are unsure of a seller PM me and I will let you know if I have bought from them. [:)] | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 06/20/2006 3:39 PM |
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Originally posted by kgradert13
...like the idea of "winning" by great pulls...
I wouldn't know. I've never experienced the sensation. [)] | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/20/2006 7:23 PM |
| | Sigh. In my time I`ve had some great pulls :| | |
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kingnanu
Warrior
214 Posts
| | 06/21/2006 12:18 PM |
| | I like to go the set route that way I don't get stuck with all of the junk rares. Which usually happens if I start buying boosters. | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 06/21/2006 12:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kgradert13
According to WotC, you can complete a set in 3 perfect cases, however unlikely that would be.
I have 2 cases ordered now, I'll see how they look when I tear into 'em before I decide on more.
That's why I pre-ordered 4 cases... Nothing has EVER gone perfect in my life! | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 06/21/2006 12:52 PM |
| Things to keep in mind:
* The average prices listed by Zenako were (I think) collected using automated programs. It is possible that something advertised as a complete set, but including bonus commons, etc... were included (or some other errors).
* 10 auctions is a pretty small number. Accordingly, the numbers can't be trusted to be perfect indicators of the releative set values. For instance, I imagine that Underdark sets will not be the cheapest of the recent sets selling over the next month.
* WotDQ has a VERY different distribution than any prior set. Assuming that *any* of the trends for prior sets will hold true for WotDQ may be a mistake. That being said, I do think that the average set price will get to the $190 (US shipping included) mark pretty soon after release.
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