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06/24/2006 4:27 PM  
So while we were there a few of us (striderlotr, Kiddoc and myself) spent some time with lurkinglidda and Shoe. I mentioned this in the Dreamblade topic here in General but I don't think alot of folks are paying attention to it. Here are some highlights ...

- lurkinglidda has a Drizzt on her desk that is mis-stamped as a common

- she also has a mordy figure holding a sign that says "oh no you didn't" ... very amusing ... talk to the hand ...

- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.

- I think we've settled that the true alignment system for D&D is best represented by the gnome/warforged axis and the pirate/ninja axis.

- we established that I have more gnomes than anyone ... if you want more gnomes, ship me your warforged ... or your wrackspawn

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06/24/2006 5:10 PM  
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- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.

This can refer either to (1) the mission packs, (2) an aquatic set, or (3) non-random packs of assorted minis. (1) and (2) would make sense, so I'll have to go with (3).

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06/24/2006 5:15 PM  
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quote:
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- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.

This can refer either to (1) the mission packs, (2) an aquatic set, or (3) non-random packs of assorted minis. (1) and (2) would make sense, so I'll have to go with (3).


It could also refer to set rotation/retirement (which I sincerely hope ISN'T the case). I would hazard a guess that it's probably non-random packs of minis. I'll place my order now for a pack with a handful of bearded devils [:D]

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06/24/2006 5:19 PM  
There are also some number of Dragonborn fighters that went through production and the production facility didn't do the number of paint steps WOTC asked, so they had to re-run a whole bunch of them (but some are likely in boosters). We saw one of these not-painted-as-well-as-it-should-have-been ones and it didn't look too bad but was clearly missing some highlights, etc.

And Sammael ... it was something very cool that I for one wasn't expecting.

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06/24/2006 5:23 PM  
quote:
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lurkinglidda has a whiteboard in her office with quotes collected on it ... including "Aspect of Hextor gives this film six thumbs up!"


That's a good one [:D]

I always liked "Hextor rules with several iron fists."

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06/24/2006 5:34 PM  
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And Sammael ... it was something very cool that I for one wasn't expecting.

You know, I could go through all your posts, compile a list of things you were expecting, and then work it out through simple elimination. But I'm not going to bother if they'll just announce it in a couple of months anyway. [)][:D]

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06/24/2006 6:05 PM  
we have ways of making you talk Chris...[)]

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06/24/2006 6:12 PM  
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we have ways of making you talk Chris...[)]


They all involve wiffle-bats [:o]

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06/24/2006 6:14 PM  
That's neat. I've always read that WotC staff go out of their way to speak with community leaders, tournament organizers, successful competitive players, and so forth. It's cool to see that's definitely the case; hope to be joining you one of these days. That bit about Aspect of Hextor as a film critic is...definitely amusing.

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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

So while we were there a few of us (striderlotr, Kiddoc and myself) spent some time with lurkinglidda and Shoe. I mentioned this in the Dreamblade topic here in General but I don't think alot of folks are paying attention to it. Here are some highlights ...
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- lurkinglidda has a Drizzt on her desk that is mis-stamped as a common

- she also has a mordy figure holding a sign that says "oh no you didn't" ... very amusing ... talk to the hand ...
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- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.
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06/24/2006 6:34 PM  
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And Sammael ... it was something very cool that I for one wasn't expecting.


I was just about to ask whether or not you thought that this mystery decision would be well-received! You stole the thunder from my grand question! [}:)]

Shouldn't Hextor be giving something 7 or 8 thumbs up? The extras belonging to the other reviewers...

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06/24/2006 7:35 PM  
It is something people ask for regularly.

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06/24/2006 7:42 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves

It is something people ask for regularly.


Dragonlance minis? Tavern Strippers? An Aboleth? Huge sets more often than once every two years?

A new maxminis server? [:O][:D]

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06/24/2006 7:48 PM  
Tell me now I must know!

DL minis, reprints of some older stuff, or non-random packages would make me giddy with excitement.

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06/24/2006 8:23 PM  
I'm going to guess that they'll make replacement cards available.

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I'm going to guess that they'll make replacement cards available.



Hmmmm Interesting guess.

My intial thought was for the stand alone packs, or the Mission packs. But plenty of people have been talking about those. The hue and cry from replacements cards hasn't been carried along in a while.

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That's neat. I've always read that WotC staff go out of their way to speak with community leaders, tournament organizers, successful competitive players, and so forth. It's cool to see that's definitely the case; hope to be joining you one of these days. That bit about Aspect of Hextor as a film critic is...definitely amusing.


You'll get a chance first hand at Gen Con. Seriously, just go up and ask, and you'll get similar treatment. Ian and Shoe in particular are great to rub elbows with. They (appear to!?) like us, and they love dolling out the obscure clues...

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06/25/2006 12:38 AM  
Offhand, I'd guess that it's a reprint set. Questions regarding the security of the master molds have been repeatedly dodged, and more than a few folks would love to see certain minis hit the presses again.

Replacement cards were a big deal for some time and there was a massive thread about it on the WotC boards. But we were basically told "no way" and so the issue gradually died. I don't foresee any revisitation to it--even though it would be an issue of minimal effort (as far as I can see) on the part of WotC.

Non-Random packs just don't ring true for me unless it's A) part of a reprint thing or B) part of a planned adventure set. Everything of psych of marketing (that I'm familiar with) tells me that the non-random packs wouldn't be nearly as profitable as the regular booster boxes and that alone would demand that assets be better applied to different projects. Even though people have been calling for the planned adventures for more than a little while it still doesn't seem quite right. After all, why go through the effort of doing that if you're already planning the adventures and mini releases to go with each other? Duplication of effort is generally frowned upon corporately speaking.

Still, I'm anxious to see what Wizards announces.

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06/25/2006 12:40 AM  
Adventure sets are a possibility, but how well did the SW set sell?

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06/25/2006 12:51 AM  
Great, now I'm itching to know what it is that will be announced.

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06/25/2006 12:56 AM  
They're going to make a common stirge and place it in two common slots of a non-huge set. [:P]


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06/25/2006 1:01 AM  
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quote:
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It is something people ask for regularly.


Dragonlance minis? Tavern Strippers? An Aboleth? Huge sets more often than once every two years?



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They all involve wiffle-bats [:o]




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lurkinglidda has a whiteboard in her office with quotes collected on it ... including "Aspect of Hextor gives this film six thumbs up!"

Whoa, my quote board got quoted!

Can't forget that right under this particular quote is a line that reads, "Beholder says, 'all eyes are on this movie!'"

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quote:
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lurkinglidda has a whiteboard in her office with quotes collected on it ... including "Aspect of Hextor gives this film six thumbs up!"

Whoa, my quote board got quoted!

Can't forget that right under this particular quote is a line that reads, "Beholder says, 'all eyes are on this movie!'"



My accountant friend has a quote board, but I can't cite it here.

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quote:
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Whoa, my quote board got quoted!

Can't forget that right under this particular quote is a line that reads, "Beholder says, 'all eyes are on this movie!'"



I won't even mention my personal favorite.

Let's just say it has the word "foreplay" in it.

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- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.


If it's an aquatic set (with Aboleth), I am all over that like a all over a .

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quote:
- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.



Large commons? Aquatic rules? Resculpting of the entire Harbinger line? Mounts with de-attachable riders? A medium worg rider? Huge packs with two dragons in it like Dooku suggested once? 3-D rules for flying creatures? Releasing another huge set next year? Boxed adventure sets (like 2nd editon boxed set, but with minis included!)?

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- she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.


A "Unglued"/"Unsculpted" Set.
And half the figures are Gnomes rejected from past sets.


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06/25/2006 4:24 AM  
Curses, not knowing this is torture, I shouldn't have clicked on...

Oh well, while I'm here, I'll give my 2 pence:

(1) Dragonlance (please!)
(2) Aquatic Set
(3) Gnomes

I highly doubt the Large Commons (see Design and Development III), and the Gnomes, even though listed, is something I doubt they'd be talking about diong for a while. Margaret Weis and Tracy Hinkman are onboard for the new WotC book, Dragons: Worlds Afire, so Dragonlance is always possible.

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06/25/2006 4:27 AM  
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quote:
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lurkinglidda has a whiteboard in her office with quotes collected on it ... including "Aspect of Hextor gives this film six thumbs up!"

Whoa, my quote board got quoted!

Can't forget that right under this particular quote is a line that reads, "Beholder says, 'all eyes are on this movie!'"

I can only imagine this movie must have had the Griffon Cavalry on the edge of her seat.

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06/25/2006 4:30 AM  
WOOOHOOO!!! We are getting the flying monkeys from Oz!!!

Right!?

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06/25/2006 8:00 AM  
I'll go for the tavern stripper [:p]

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she and Shoe were discussing something that Wizards was planning to do ... something that a few folks have talked about and don't expect to happen. I'm not going to say what it is, but it should be announced I think in the next few months.
Okay, this is going to drive some of us crazy(ier).

1) "Something that Wizards was planning to do." Something that Wizards has been planning to do? Something that Wizards has been planning to do. Is this a "minis" something, a D&D "something" a "crossover" something, a "tournament" something, a "marketing" something, a "retail" something? Dang, too many possibilities.

2) "A few folks have talked about [it] and don't expect [it] to happen." Hmm. A "few folks" implies not all that much discussion has been generated on the topic--but enough to merit notice. And, they don't expect it to happen. This could be a few things too. Minis distribution? Minis repaints/resculpts? Minis that affect the game in their own meta way (such as magic items, or 1-point minis)?

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06/25/2006 10:09 AM  
quote:
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It is something people ask for regularly.



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06/25/2006 10:13 AM  
My guess is magic items.

We've discussed it some, but the general concencus was that it was not going to happen. While discussing it, someone from WotC (Shoe?) added that it was considered, but that the idea was shelved. I didn't get the idea that it was shelved because it was a horrible idea... I got the idea that it was shelved because it needed further work to make it play-friendly.

However, I really hope it is an acquatic set. A set that was designed to be primarily stand-alone with its own maps for underwater action would be cool. Many figures in the set could have two cards (similar to normal and epic cards) so that they could be used in underwater maps (with the green card) or used on normal maps (witht he brown or blue card).

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06/25/2006 10:23 AM  
Reprint cards to make the old dragons more cost-effective and therefore more prominent in skirmish?

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06/25/2006 10:40 AM  
Half the fun of the WotC tour was peeking into closed offices and over cube walls hoping to find stuff we weren't supposed to see. [:D] I can count at least three times a group was looking at an employee workspace and someone said: "Ooh! that looks like a [Insert spoiler]" and we were quickly moved on to somewhere else.[:p]

But out of respect for their privacy, I won't be talking beyond saying they do a lot of stuff that may never happen in hopes that it does happen.

Something neat that I saw from an older set was a pair of Huge gold dragons with about 20 more paint steps then mine came with. They were amazing!

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06/25/2006 12:53 PM  
the super secret- a buddy of mine was there- he told me what it was-
I really wasn't too impressed though- scratch and sniff minis- not a great idea.

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06/25/2006 1:04 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Harneloot

Reprint cards to make the old dragons more cost-effective and therefore more prominent in skirmish?


Heh ... I *WISH* ... but no, not that.

I'll echo what bshugg said. Some really cool stuff and I hope it all comes to be.

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06/25/2006 1:33 PM  
Hopefully Dragonlance minis to tie into the Dragonlance manimated movie that is allegedly being released, with Lucy Lawless doing the voice of Goldmoon

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