ggowan
Skirmisher
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| I'd like to see giant ants and giant bees in an upcoming set. Those were one of the most common random monsters or side encounters from my old D&D campaigns.
Also would be nice to have another owlbear since they are a very core common monster and are hard to get these days (guy on eBay stole my money when I tried to get one).
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zenthrus
Warlord
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SLC, UT
| | 07/13/2006 1:51 AM |
| Chainmail Owlbears are semi-available.
There are also two very nice Owlbears in the D&D Basic Game Expansion (the forest one, not the ice one).
I have to admit, that some of the Harbinger RPG staples are about due for a resculpt (Owlbear, D-Beast, Bearded Devil, anything summonable).
As to giant ants...we have Formian Workers. They're medium-sized ants.
As to giant bees...ummm...please, no [:(] | |
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Yukon Cornelius
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| | 07/13/2006 10:17 AM |
| I really want to see that Lizardfolk wasp rider from MM4.
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mordulin
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37 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 10:27 AM |
| I have to agree with doing without bees and as far as ants are concerned the formian works just fine, although according to the latest Design and Development article
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/20060713a
it looks like they won't do any other formians for a while long time, which is a shame because I actually like using the formians as a DM. | |
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dulsin
Sneak
171 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 10:35 AM |
| | I say no to bees but some giant wasps would be fun! | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 10:38 AM |
| | I do like the way they're thinking, though -- namely, include a lot of different formians if they ever were to appear in a set. It gives me hope that if things like psurlons were ever done, we'd see the three types in one fell swoop, and that'd be it. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
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| | 07/13/2006 10:47 AM |
| Ants and Wasps would rule.
As would FOrmians.
I really worry about what WotC thinks is cool (Snig on a Worg thats to big) and what isnt (Formians and Feind Folio monsters).
They need to hire someone who can tell the difference. :) | |
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jacksonm
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| | 07/13/2006 11:06 AM |
| | Giant Wasps would rock. [:)] | | | |
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Deoxy
Warrior
225 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:13 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
There are also two very nice Owlbears in the D&D Basic Game Expansion (the forest one, not the ice one).
?!?
This is the first I've heard of these, and they're certainly not on the WotC Product page (at least, not under any recognizable name).
A little help? A link, perhaps? Please?? | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:21 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Deoxy
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
There are also two very nice Owlbears in the D&D Basic Game Expansion (the forest one, not the ice one).
?!?
This is the first I've heard of these, and they're certainly not on the WotC Product page (at least, not under any recognizable name).
A little help? A link, perhaps? Please??
It's the D&D boardgame which (I believe) is available only in Europe. However, I think Paizo had them for sale recently.
The set contains reasonably sculpted, unpainted D&D monsters. I'll see if I can find you a link. | |
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Lab Monkey
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4136 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:23 AM |
| http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/16138
Owlbears are on the right in this picture:
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 07/13/2006 11:31 AM |
| Yeah the boardgame follows rules that in no way resemble real D&D (but the game is still great).
The boardgame peices are unpainted, have square bases, and take up one square...So they arent that great a substitute. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/13/2006 11:40 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
So they arent that great a substitute.
I completely disagree.
Size-wise, the vast majority of the minis from the D&D boardgame (and expansions) are perfect (yes, the bases are only 1" but they're pretty easily re-based). I've had to re-base several (Owlbears, Yuan-ti, Ogres, Carrion Crawlers) and they by-and-large are in desperate need of paint, but they work very well. The White/Blue Dragon is horribly mis-scaled. It's too big for a large and too small for a huge.
They take some work, but they're rather nicely sculpted and they are generally properly scaled. The Frost Salamanders are a little on the large side (but look incredible) and the trolls are a little on the small side. The Wraiths and Carrion Crawlers are substantially better sculpts than their DDM counterparts. I just wish the Giant Owls were being ridden by elves rather than goblins. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:46 AM |
| try this for owlbears...I own one and I love it...granted you gotta paint it but it is pretty cheap and it looks great; left arm also needs to be assembled/glued
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/inc/sdetail/38420
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kyrin
Commander
3171 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 3:11 PM |
| We definitely need giant ants. And Celestial Bees and Fiendish Wasps are staples for the Summoning Set. Gimme Gimme Gimme those vermin!
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 3:16 PM |
| I agree with The Count:
quote:
I really worry about what WotC thinks is cool (Snig on a Worg thats to big) and what isnt (Formians and Feind Folio monsters).
They need to hire someone who can tell the difference. :)
WoTC needs a bit of help with choosing monsters sometimes IMHO | |
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Boneclaw McGraw
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 3:26 PM |
| | I wouldn't mind a giant insect or two, but we also need entomanothropes![:)] | |
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PerpetualStudent
Sneak
173 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 4:18 PM |
| | I think that giant insects might be a good change from the animals, dire or otherwize. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 4:27 PM |
| Well, that and we're running out of animals -- on the dire front, only the Dire Tiger and Dire Shark(a huge) are left! Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Dire Vultures from Sandstorm, that is, and I think I'd rather have vermin.
I definitely want to see a common giant ant, though I'm less enthusiastic about a bee. A Celestial Stag Beetle is long overdue, though. | |
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Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 4:30 PM |
| | I'd rather see scorpions, beatles, and 'pedes before ants and bees. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/13/2006 4:49 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Dire Vultures from Sandstorm, that is, and I think I'd rather have vermin.
The Dire Vulture came out in Archfiends. [:P] | |
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Dahak
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| | 07/13/2006 8:49 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
Ants and Wasps would rule.
As would FOrmians.
I really worry about what WotC thinks is cool (Snig on a Worg thats to big) and what isnt (Formians and Feind Folio monsters).
They need to hire someone who can tell the difference. :)
I'd rather have a Modron than another Formian [Thats not no to a formian but I've got some.]. But Giant Wasps and Ants would be nice.
On the Snig vs Fiend folio. Snig on oversized warg was not a good choice.
We are however running out of not completely laughable monsters from the original Fiend Folio. I think the remaining ones are:
Aleax +
Apparition +
Giant Bat [Size S]
Berbelang
Caryatid Column +
Coffer Corpse +
Crypt Thing +
Death Dog
Styx Devil
Devil dog +
Oriental Dragons
Elemental Princes of Evil.
Eye of Fear and Flame +
Fire Drake +
Firetoad +
Flail Snail
Upper Class Githyanki and Githzerai +
Hellcat
Giant Hornet
Hound of Ill Omen +
Huecuva +
Ice lizard +
Kamadan
Lamia Noble
Lizard King +
Mephits
Mezzodaemon
Necrophidius
Nycadeamon
Penanggalan
Retriver +
Revenant +
Scarecrow
Shadow Demon
Green +, Grey + and Lord Slaad
Son of Kyuss +
Sussurus
Svifneblin +
Tabaxi +
Thoqua
Vodyanoi +
Yellow Musk Zombie +
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:14 PM |
| Celestial Bees and Fiendish Wasps? I'll take a few!
Of course, I'll take Formians and even Modrons...
But what we really need are (common) GIANT FIRE BEETLES! | |
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zoroaster100
Sergeant
873 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:19 PM |
| | I wouldn't mind getting some giant bees and giant ants, but even more so I'd rather first get giant centipedes and giant fire beetles. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/13/2006 11:42 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
Of course, I'll take Formians and even Modrons...
For Modrons, just buy some appropriate-sized bases and glue dice to them. Add paint and you have modrons [:P] | |
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8 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 11:53 PM |
| | Vermin of any sort would be a nice addition. WoTC could use them to give the dwarves and orcs a break. Maybe a nice swarm of wasps in flight? | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 12:09 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
For Modrons, just buy some appropriate-sized bases and glue dice to them. Add paint and you have modrons [:P]
That sounds suspiciously like I'd be making an effort. That frightens me. [:0] | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/14/2006 12:30 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
That sounds suspiciously like I'd be making an effort. That frightens me. [:0]
It's a different sort of monkey to feed (like the poor-man's displacer beast I'm just finishing up [:D]).
Feed the monkey [)] | |
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The GrimJester
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| | 07/14/2006 1:30 AM |
| | I could live without the bees and ants, but the various beetles are an absolute staple of low level DnD adventuring !! | |
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Harneloot
Sergeant
575 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 1:45 AM |
| Yes...how can we be in set 10 with NO beetles????????????
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Werebat
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110 Posts
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| | 07/14/2006 10:48 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Username
I'd rather see scorpions, beatles, and 'pedes before ants and bees.
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Corim Danex
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| | 07/14/2006 10:51 AM |
| | I'd like to see giant ants and giant bees and the beetles. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3171 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 11:04 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Harneloot
Yes...how can we be in set 10 with NO beetles????????????
And no Centipedes, dagnabit!!!
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5692 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 11:35 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Werebat
quote:
Originally posted by Username
I'd rather see scorpions, beatles, and 'pedes before ants and bees.
I can't decide if they should make Ringo a bard or a rogue.
- Ron ^*^
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
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| | 07/14/2006 2:25 PM |
| Rather see Beetles first as well, both medium (fire?) and large (stag?),
D. | |
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| | 07/14/2006 5:06 PM |
| | Make mine a Sorceror on Giant Bee. | |
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ggowan
Skirmisher
22 Posts
| | 07/16/2006 9:32 PM |
| | Boy, a lot of people have strong negative feelings about bees. Wonder why? I like the healing honey! (not even sure if they still have that these days...) But yes, I absolutely agree about wanting beetles and centipedes and wasps. Those are all really essential monsters for the entry-level adventures. And I don't like using formians for giant ants (I'm assuming the formian's you're talking about are the formian warriors from aberrations. They have a humanoidish torso which is very different from an ant. | |
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ggowan
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22 Posts
| | 07/16/2006 10:54 PM |
| | Somebody earlier mentioned wanting scorpions. We do of course already have the fiendish monstrous scorpion, though some smaller scorpions might be in order (and/or less rare). As for centipedes it's not a perfect substitute but you can use the carrion crawler as a large centipede (of course most are smaller than that). And the Ankheg isn't a bad large beetle. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 12:24 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Dordledum
Rather see Beetles first as well, both medium (fire?) and large (stag?),
Giant Fire Beetles are available in Small size only. They don't even offer an advanced version in the MM entry. [v]
I've always thought of them as the size of a large dog. | |
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