Kat_Dawg33
Warrior
291 Posts
    
USA
 | | 07/17/2006 12:13 PM |
| It seems strange to me that the Aspects are priced/selling for so much more than the other huges in the set. I would think most people would only want multiples of the Tundra Scout and Eldritch Giant and since there are technically equal amounts of all the huge rares, they might be a little harder to come by and thus less available. There are other factors, I know:
-SoBD is cool, and it's a Black Dragon!!! But with a rider on it's back, it loses something and why would you want more than one? If so, why?
-Dracolich is cool!!! High RPG charisma piece! But do you need more than one for a campaign?
-Aspects are iconic and I guess most people will want one. But again, more than one... why?
-I could see incountering more than one of the Tundra Scout and Eldritch Giant. . .
Don't get me wrong, I can see the price being higher for the other 4, but just don't see the price being that much higher with the above stated reason. | |
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Benimoto
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| | 07/17/2006 12:44 PM |
| | Probably there are people who are casual collectors and just want one of any figure they see as being cool-looking or good in skirmish. If there's more of those casual collectors than there are of the more dedicated collectors who want multiple Tundra Scouts or Eldrich Giants, then the aspects' price will be higher. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/17/2006 12:49 PM |
| Wait a month or two and the Tundra Scouts will start to creep up in price, while Tiamat/Bahamut will likely take a dip. Right now, everyone is trying to snatch up the two big Aspects/complete sets/etc. When the novelty has worn down a bit, the RPGers will start snatching up Tundra Scouts.
I probably shouldn't say that, since I'd like the TS to stay reasonably priced since I'll want to pick up a few over the next couple of months. Hopefully the Strix speculators are too busy to notice [:D] | |
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Talistran
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310 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 12:59 PM |
| My thing is that I am selling everything I have for whatever price it takes to sell it (as long as I am not losing money and paying for my time). I can always (always as defined as at least for a few more months) buy more cases... so a small profit now, is fine because I can replenish my stocks later.
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/17/2006 2:03 PM |
| | Sellers are asking an arm and a leg, and people are giving in to the hype. I predict that demand for the Aspects will fall in a couple months, they'll stop moving, and the price will slowly respond. However, I think Tiamat will respond slower than Bahamut... | |
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Venport
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739 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 3:12 PM |
| | I agree. with John... however the big problem i see in price... are the Large Green Dragons are crazy prices | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 5:56 PM |
| That Large Green may be expensive but I remember thinking the same thing about the LRD and LSD when they were about the same price. They may be a little more skirmish worthy but look at what they are priced at now.
The price for the Aspects may be a little high but as long as the price for a huge rare is below the MSRP for a booster you shouldn't feel too bad. Yes, a booster has seven more minis to go with it and the rare may be just as valuable as the huge but that is a minor price to pay for success that exceeds cherry picking.
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 7:00 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Sellers are asking an arm and a leg, and people are giving in to the hype. I predict that demand for the Aspects will fall in a couple months, they'll stop moving, and the price will slowly respond. However, I think Tiamat will respond slower than Bahamut...
Right. Almost any DM who bought Red Hand of Doom will be wanting a Tiamat at some point in the near future. Bahamut, well... | |
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dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 07/18/2006 3:59 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kat_Dawg33
It seems strange to me that the Aspects are priced/selling for so much more than the other huges in the set. I would think most people would only want multiples of the Tundra Scout and Eldritch Giant and since there are technically equal amounts of all the huge rares, they might be a little harder to come by and thus less available. There are other factors, I know:
-SoBD is cool, and it's a Black Dragon!!! But with a rider on it's back, it loses something and why would you want more than one? If so, why?
-Dracolich is cool!!! High RPG charisma piece! But do you need more than one for a campaign?
-Aspects are iconic and I guess most people will want one. But again, more than one... why?
-I could see incountering more than one of the Tundra Scout and Eldritch Giant. . .
Don't get me wrong, I can see the price being higher for the other 4, but just don't see the price being that much higher with the above stated reason.
Not a huge fan of the SoBD. Terrible pick with huge slots so few and far between.
I want several dracoliches. Why? *ahem* ...
I also want several of each Aspect (and I'm almost done, too!) Again, if you have to ask, you must be new to the site. [:D]
TS and Eld. Giant? Meh. Not going to see much use out of me. I'm keeping the mountain trolls and cloud giants as giant substitutes. Funny, I can proxy giants, but not dragons! [}:)][)]
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 07/18/2006 4:57 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Sellers are asking an arm and a leg, and people are giving in to the hype.
Yes, that's why I'll wait a few months to get my Tiamat and dracolich. My bets are :
Tiamat : price slowly going down, but not much (iconic, everybody wants one.)
Bahamut : idem (can proxy as a huge silver, too)
SoBD : can see price going down as many people seem to not like it, and nobody wants more than one anyway.
Dracolich : should not change much, may be go down a bit as it's not used in numbers.
Eldrich giant : price might go up, giants are in demand usually.
Tundra scout : should not change much : not everyone is interested in them, but some want multiples.
However the most interesting will be to see the price of some uncommons in the future (especially HFE, SFE, stirge, troll, spider). These might raise a lot... | |
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Kat_Dawg33
Warrior
291 Posts
USA
| | 07/18/2006 6:02 AM |
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Not a huge fan of the SoBD. Terrible pick with huge slots so few and far between.
I want several dracoliches. Why? *ahem* ...
I also want several of each Aspect (and I'm almost done, too!) Again, if you have to ask, you must be new to the site.
TS and Eld. Giant? Meh. Not going to see much use out of me. I'm keeping the mountain trolls and cloud giants as giant substitutes. Funny, I can proxy giants, but not dragons!
I've been on the site for little more than half a year, still a rookie. The question was to everyone, not just you though. . . you're kinda easy to figure out on this one, Dragon Boy.[:p]
Well hey, at least you kinda, sorta, almost answered maybe some of my questions. I do appreciate that. | |
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| | 07/18/2006 8:39 AM |
| | Great point, Wayne... | |
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sleonardo
Sneak
58 Posts
| | 07/18/2006 11:01 AM |
| Let's clarify what you mean by future. In the life of a set, future could mean many things. Do you mean the next month or so? Do you mean 6 months or more? The things to think about is this... Sets typcially are no longer availabe from the manufacturer in about a year or less. Underdark was longer available from the manufacturer in about 6 to 7 months.
I divide the life of a set into 3 parts.
1. Initial stage (pre-release, and early weeks). Price higher for high value items and lower for low value items. Many sellers and buyers also make mistakes in pricing. It is a good time to buy that rare or uncommon that may go up in price in the future. It is definitely a good time to buy the sleeprs (currently perceived to be low value but will become high later)Examples of minis to grab... War Drums Blood Ghost Berserker if priced like any uncommon. WotDQ Stirge. WD Hill Giant Barbarian if priced like any uncommon.
2. Middle stage (regular time until the set is no longer available from the manufacturer). Price correction happens. The super rare may disappear from stocks easily. This is the time to complete the set if you need to. This is the time to buy all the commons you want in large quantities from sellers that do flat rate postage. Even better buy in lots of 10x, 5x from sellers who do flat rate.
3. Late stage (out of print). Prices go up fast for Rares. Prices go up or minis disappear from stock for high valued uncommons. For unwanted uncommons and commons and even some unwanted rares typcially stay stable until much later. GoL Huge Red Dragon was at about 29.99 when set was about to go OOP. Price now is double or triple. Deathknell Beholder was at about 25.00 before it went out of print. Now it should be in the high 30s. Same thing will happen to the AoT, Balor, Chimera, etc...
So, when you think future, are you thinking of stage 2 or stage 3? They are different. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 07/18/2006 11:41 AM |
| | In my answer I was haaving stage 2 in mind. Most of the prices go up for OOP minis, except some commons and uncommons nobody wants (and a few rares). | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3547 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 07/18/2006 1:46 PM |
| My prediction is that it that Tiamat and the Dracolich will never go down. Tiamat is too iconic. People outside the mainstream are snapping them up and will continue to do so, much in the way they did Drizzt. People in the mainstream (RPG, skirmish, collector) all want one, with almost no exceptions, I think. To a lesser degree, the Dracolich is the same, and some RPGers will want multiples because they're skeletal dragons.
The Aspect of Bahamut may go down, but I doubt it. As an RPGer, it's a basically a huge silver dragon, and who doesn't want one of those, especially with the price of the Large Silver Dragon at $60 and counting?
The Sorcerer on Black Dragon could end up being the chump. Only a few folks will want multiples and many have decided they can skip it. Besides, there are 5000 repaints of the figure floating around out there.
The Eldritch Giant and Tundra Scout could go up, but I predict not by much. Just look at the example of the Warforged Titan and Glabrezu. To some folks, those are great RPG figures that you'd want multiples of. They both have skirmish potential and the Titan can even be used in multiples in Epic format. All that, and yet they are hardly more valuable than they were when GoL came out, because some folks think they are chumps that they wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I think exactly the same thing will happen to the EG and TS. | |
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur
Underboss
1085 Posts
Southeast PA
| | 07/18/2006 3:14 PM |
| I don't see Tiamat going down at all. It will always be above $30 and climb up slowly from there. When GoL came out all the huge rares started at approximately $25 each. The Huge Gold and Huge Red climbed from there and never looked back. The others all dipped to about $15 each and I even picked up a Storm Giant for $10-$12. They are beginning to climb again. Tiamat will be priced just like the Huge Gold and Huge Red, always in demand from everyone and will not go down in my opinion. Bahamut may dip slightly but will also continue to rise slowly over time to above current levels. The Eldritch Giant and Tundra Scout will dip to $12-$15 and may climb somewhat from there. The Dracolich I think will be in between. I can see this climbing up slowly over time as most everyone wants one of these too. I think it will eventually reach the prices of the Huge Gold and Huge Red. I predict Tiamat will be the most expensive piece of all the pieces except maybe Drizzt.
All the Dragons always go up. The Large Green Dragon is wanted by many players in multiples. People are piloting two or three in their bands. That right there has increased demand more than the LRD or LSD ever got as they could only field one LSD and two LRD in a band. | |
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