gausse
Sergeant
961 Posts
    
Wisconsin
 | | 07/17/2006 1:18 PM |
| Has everyone seen the Bloodwar booster art already?
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndmin/950530000
Looks like some kind of Angel, another Yuan-Ti and another dragon with rider. Maybe a red dragon with rider?
As others noted it looks like a Solar, Marilith, Githyanki riding a Red Dragon | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:21 PM |
| Cant see them from work, someone please host it!
Btw, the Yuan-ti is probably the Marilith.
Dragon rider...Githyanki on Large Red??? | |
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Orion72
Underboss
1917 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:21 PM |
| | Nope, middle one is definitely a Marilith. | | | |
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avrivah
Sneak
164 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:25 PM |
| Planetar perhaps.
There is no question. That is the maralith.
Also, seconded. That is a Githyanki on a dragon of some sort.
This is awesome! | |
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gausse
Sergeant
961 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 07/17/2006 1:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Cant see them from work, someone please host it!
Btw, the Yuan-ti is probably the Marilith.
Dragon rider...Githyanki on Large Red???
Yeah the middle one does have 6 arms, and it does look like a Githyanki on a red dragon. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:30 PM |
| | Sweet, no go host them on photobucket and post em in here sos I can see [:P] | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:36 PM |
| Wow, very cool. I guess that would be a Large Red dragon with Githyanki then. Glad they got over their 1 size difference dilema. I love the scale of the halfling on the Clawfoot.
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:36 PM |
| | You can thank me right now, because I sent a mail to WotC earlier today complaining that the Blood War booster art isn't yet available in their catalogue. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:36 PM |
| http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG12.jpg
That first booster -- definitely a Solar. Grey/silver skin, glowing metallic eyes, bow strapped to the back... | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:37 PM |
| Big version here:
SOLAR // MARILITH // GITH DRAGON RIDER | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:39 PM |
| | That looks more like a Planetar than a Solar to me. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:41 PM |
| | Planetars usually have green skin. | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:41 PM |
| Wow, I hope that is a solar angel. Aren't planetar's green...or is that just the trumpet archon. Ugh, hard to keep them all straight.
I think it's definitely the solar angel I've been calling on for some time. The eyes are what make me think solar, b/c I seem to recall the artwork in the MM with the solar angel having 'flared' eyes. | | | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
That looks more like a Planetar than a Solar to me.
Planetars are green, mang. | |
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ilarue
Underboss
1259 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:42 PM |
| | Nice find. So is it going to be a large dragon with a medium sized rider? It's hard to imagine a dragon smaller than the huge black having a rider on it. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 07/17/2006 1:43 PM |
| Planetars are bald...Solars usually arent. I hope its a Planetar that is colered funny on the art.
Why must ALL the angels be bald? :)
Marilith rules...Thank the Gods it looks human and not red and scaley like in the MM.
I HATE Mounted Mins...Curses!
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avrivah
Sneak
164 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:44 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG12.jpg
That first booster -- definitely a Solar. Grey/silver skin, glowing metallic eyes, bow strapped to the back...
Good call. Now, do you care to speculate on its skirmish stats. OMG ranged attack, kill anything.
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gausse
Sergeant
961 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 07/17/2006 1:44 PM |
| | The dragon's snout is flat like a red and it is breathing fire. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:52 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
I HATE Mounted Mins...Curses!
At least kirin will be thrilled.
OK, we have a Large Red
We have two Githyankis
How can you still hate one mounted on the other now that we already have it's two parts [:P]
I understand your resentment of say Blackguard on Nightmare because you would rather have just a Nightmare and tell your players it has a rider if that's the case. But why the hatred for a Githyanki Dragon Rider?
Not trying to be inflammatory, I'm honestly curious. Your normal argument does not apply in this case [:P] | |
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XenoZephyr
Underboss
1083 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:55 PM |
| Oh I just realized that the Githyanki on Red Dragon (and that's a good guess on the name after the figures in WotDQ) should have been in WotDQ. We usually get around 4-5 figures that fit the previous set's theme, so this seems to definately be one of them.
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:57 PM |
| Wow that's great news. I love all three.
The first looks like a Solar to me. It's about time: 11 sets before we get our first MMI Angel. Excellent.
Further confirmation of the Marilith is welcome news. I'm very interested to see how they painted/sculpted this figure.
Githyanki on Large Red Dragon? Frick'n awesome I say. We've needed another githyanki for a while now. This is a prefect choice, especially for a long time collector like me.
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:57 PM |
| | Oh, and all three look pretty damn cool. I want at least 2 Mariliths (I normally collect 2 of each demon), 3 Githyanki on Red Dragons, and 1 of the planetar/solars (2 if they are good in skirmish. :P) | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 1:59 PM |
| Note the MMv3.5 picture:
[img]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG12.jpg[/img]
Definitely a solar.
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 07/17/2006 1:59 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
I HATE Mounted Mins...Curses!
At least kirin will be thrilled.
OK, we have a Large Red
We have two Githyankis
How can you still hate one mounted on the other now that we already have it's two parts [:P]
I understand your resentment of say Blackguard on Nightmare because you would rather have just a Nightmare and tell your players it has a rider if that's the case. But why the hatred for a Githyanki Dragon Rider?
Not trying to be inflammatory, I'm honestly curious. Your normal argument does not apply in this case [:P]
Very very true. Since I have a Githyanki and a Large Red Dragon..This mini doesnt hurt as much as the Nightmare and the Huge Black Dragon.
But its still wasted potential. I see it as one of the 60 minis in the set being flushed. You know the whole "wasted slot" thing. :) | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:02 PM |
| | The only wasted slots are ones given to things like the Rust Monster and Disenchanter. [:P] | |
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taliesin
Underboss
1113 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:03 PM |
| [img]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG12.jpg[/img]
The silvery one in the back is a solar, so I'd say that's a lock.
I don't know when it happened, but somehow Trumpet Archons and Planetars both became bald and green-skinned.
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
That looks more like a Planetar than a Solar to me.
I would agree, but your standard Planetar doesn't have a bow, while the solar does.
Hey! I think it's about time for some made-up stats for the new guys! Here's a super-simple conversion. I would be that at least one of these is a commander, or has some other cool skirmish ability:
Solar (EPIC)
LG Medium Rare
Cost: 300? pts
Lvl: 12
Spd: F12
AC : 29
HP : 210
Melee Attk: +35/+30/+25 (30 magic)
Range Attk: +28/+23 (15 magic + Slaying Arrow)
Type: Outsider - Angel
Special Abilities:
- Aura of Protection from Evil (This Creature and adjacent allies get +2 AC against evil creatures)
- Blindsight
- DR/10
- Flight
- Immune Acid, Cold
- Melee Reach 2
- Regeneration 10
- Resist 10 Electricity, Fire
- SR
- Slaying Arrow [?] (destroy target creature, DC 20)
- Yeah, and they might have some spells too (probably at least dimension door)
Who knows what the normal version might be like. Maybe it'll finally be the 30-point LG beater. Okay, not very likely if it has a fly speed and a bow. Probably it'll be somewhat similar to the non-epic Justicator.
Marilith (EPIC)
CE Large Rare
Cost: 220? pts
Lvl: 10
Spd: 8
AC : 24
HP : 215
Melee Attk: +20/+20/+15 (20 magic)
Type: Outsider - Demon
Special Abilities:
- DR/5
- SR
- Dual Activation
- Immune Electricity, Poison
- Resist 10 Acid, Cold, Fire
- Blindsight
- Tail Slap (1 melee attack per phase; a hit deals normal damage + Constrict)
- Constrict (creature skips next turn, DC 19)
- Melee Reach 2
The Marilith is very likely also a commander, IMHO. The normal version I would guess will just be a scaled down version, doing 10 or 15 per attack, with lower attack bonuses, AC and HP.
No real clue what the Gith on Red Dragon might be like, but here's a stab in the dark:
Githyanki on Red Dragon
CE Large Rare
Cost: 55-80 pts
Lvl: 9
Spd: F8
AC : 18
HP : 95
Melee Attk: +12/+7 (20)
Type: Mounted Outsider - Dragon
Special Abilities:
- Flight
- Conceal 6
- Mounted Melee Attack
- Immune Fire
- Double Damage from Cold
- Breath Weapon [] (replaces attacks; cone; 20 fire damage, DC 18) | |
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gausse
Sergeant
961 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 07/17/2006 2:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
Definitely a solar.
Yep. It's a match right down to the armor on the forearms and the style of boots. It's a Solar. | |
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FeranEldritchKnight
Sergeant
385 Posts
Kansas City, MO USA
| | 07/17/2006 2:09 PM |
| | Definitely good find, and welcome news! The Gith on LRD (or GoLRD- my name I called it! [:P]) looks cool, but is the least useful of the three. As I hardly ever use either Gith race, do they tend to ride dragons out in their planar homes? It doesn't seem right. I guess Githyanki seem more likely to ride a dragon than Githzerai to me though. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:10 PM |
| | Githyanki have an ancient racial pact with red dragons and ride them while they're on the Prime Material. | |
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Username
Warlord
5692 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:14 PM |
| | Nice find. I think the gith on dragon would be great. | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
Marilith rules...Thank the Gods it looks human and not red and scaley like in the MM.
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding. As much as I loathe the human look and highly prefer the snake-like look, I can live with it if the skirmish stats intrigue me.
As for the other two, if I get the Solar, I'll likely trade it away unless, again, it has impressive skirmish stats. Other than that it looks like it will be okay when the mini pictures are shown but it just simply is not my cup of tea. And the Githyanki on Red Dragon, don't even get me started on that one! I'll trade it away as fast as I can if I draw one, no matter how bloody good the stats are! | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:19 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra
And the Githyanki on Red Dragon, don't even get me started on that one! I'll trade it away as fast as I can if I draw one, no matter how bloody good the stats are!
I'll remember that, you valued trading partner you (tm Kyrin) as I want about 5. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3171 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:39 PM |
| HOLY FRAGAROLLEY!
Two-for-two on vindication!!!!!!!!
Damn, they just keep wanting me to buy cases, don't they???
I'm officially starting Kyrin's Halfway Home for Unwanted Githyanki Knights!
I am sooooo stoked! I genuinely thought that was the longest of shots.
Boooo-YA!
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:40 PM |
| Well, we already have red dragons ad naseum and two githyanki so the githyanki on red dragon won't be bad unless its one of four or five more mounted minis in the set.
Looking at the art, that definitely looks like a solar to me. You 3e players are going to have to help me out. How bad did the solar get nerfed for 3e? The 1e version was an unstoppable evil killing machine. Asmodeus wasn't even close to being a match for one. Even an epic 500 point version would have to be nerfed into an unrecognizable form.
Thank God the marilith is back in the proper form. That lame, non-threatening, 6 armed ophidean from the 3e Monster Manual is hopefully gone forever.
Was anyone else here extremely dissappointed in the art for War of the Dragon Queen. Not only did the nightmare box art not have any rares, it was easily the worst art ever to appear in DDM. Many of the cards were amatuerish at best.
edit: I am very excited about this set. | |
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:41 PM |
| Its nice to see that the maarlith continues her tradition of selecting "Boob Coverage" as her 1st feat. Wonder if the mini will reflect that too lol.
All 3 have good potential. Githyanki have traditionally ridden large red dragons.
While I appreciate the fact that most of the rares in WoDQ were figures I only want one of, I dont appreciater the fact that many (7 or 8) of them were bland humanoids that could have easily been uncommons. If I'm going to try and track down a rare, at least make it an interesting figure that wouldnt be feasible as an uncommon. Blood wars might get us back to that. Just because I dont want 1-8 celestial butter churners doesnt mean I want to see it in my rare slot either... | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:42 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
(tm Kyrin)
Typo? If not, what does "tm" mean? | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/17/2006 2:43 PM |
| 3.5e solar is comparable to ancient dragons and more powerful than pit fiends and balors.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1440 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 07/17/2006 2:51 PM |
| | And still no saddle! | |
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