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07/17/2006 2:51 PM  
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Originally posted by Thailfi

Was anyone else here extremely dissappointed in the art for War of the Dragon Queen. Not only did the nightmare box art not have any rares, it was easily the worst art ever to appear in DDM.



Wasn't that our buddy Baxa who did that one?

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07/17/2006 2:53 PM  
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Typo? If not, what does "tm" mean?



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07/17/2006 2:57 PM  
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And still no saddle!



Githyanki need no saddles, unlike the inferior, deity-worshipping, weakling pieces of illithid-fodder on the Prime Material. They stay on through sheer force of bluster.

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07/17/2006 2:57 PM  
My speculation:

We've just seen at least two, maybe three, Epics in the set. Solars have RPG stats that are way up there, and Mariliths aren't far behind. The Gith on Large Red might be one too, but that could go either way.

As for the mounted Large Red being 'a waste', I have to disagree. I love Mounted figures in all their forms; I collect them. I can either play them, just enjoy having them, etc. And if enough Skirmish viable ones come out, my Griffon Cavalry will finally have a list of useful targets to go after in 200/8 since currently GAS precludes it from being played.

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07/17/2006 2:58 PM  
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Typo? If not, what does "tm" mean?



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07/17/2006 2:59 PM  
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Originally posted by Sammael

Githyanki have an ancient racial pact with red dragons and ride them while they're on the Prime Material.



On the Astral Plane, too. They all live on the same dead god thanks to that ancient pact.

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07/17/2006 3:05 PM  
Very cool! The Marilith is old news, but I'm glad to see the Solar and Gith on Red Dragon. Each of the above would be welcome additions to my collection.

The Solar should have the potential to epitomize the titan build.

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07/17/2006 3:05 PM  
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Githyanki have an ancient racial pact with red dragons and ride them while they're on the Prime Material.



On the Astral Plane, too. They all live on the same dead god thanks to that ancient pact.



There are many dead gods in the Astral that the Sons of Gith use to build their cities on, my friend.

And they're always looking for new real estate...

Tee-hee...

Seriously, has there been an explanation for how the Githyanki have the red dragons over such a barrel? Or am I gonna have to (gasp) make something up?

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07/17/2006 3:05 PM  
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Originally posted by Pegasus Knight
As for the mounted Large Red being 'a waste', I have to disagree.


Pegasus Knight is correct [:D]

I suppose if they're going to have a githyanki riding a red dragon, there needs to be a paladin riding a pegasus to balance out the universe, right? [)]

Seems like I'll be going back to case-purchases for BW. DQ is better for singles purchases but I'd like a shot at a couple of the boxart critters [:D]

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07/17/2006 3:06 PM  
Awesome. I'm looking forward to all 3. [:)]


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07/17/2006 3:07 PM  
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Originally posted by kyrin
Tee-hee...

Ummm...that was frightening [:O]

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Seriously, has there been an explanation for how the Githyanki have the red dragons over such a barrel?

Everyone knows that the Githyanki are interplanar moneylenders. The Red Dragons owe a lot of dough after financing their hoardes [:D]

Witchknives must be lawyers to be universally hated...

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07/17/2006 3:07 PM  
Now that we have a Large Red and two Githyanki, I think a mounted Gith on LRD is a *great* idea -- hopefully we'll also see a Gish or the like in the set in an uncommon or common slot. I may or may not pick one up, but it's an excellent idea.

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07/17/2006 3:09 PM  
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Originally posted by zenthrus


Seems like I'll be going back to case-purchases for BW. DQ is better for singles purchases but I'd like a shot at a couple of the boxart critters [:D]



Yes! I'm getting two cases for sure now. Gelugon, Marilith, Solar, Gith Knight...sounds good to me! It sounds like another Angelfire with lots of great rares.

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07/17/2006 3:14 PM  
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Why must ALL the angels be bald? :)


Cos they're angels not crass, furry monkeys like us. [)]

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07/17/2006 3:21 PM  
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Definitely good find, and welcome news! The Gith on LRD (or GoLRD- my name I called it! [:P])


Yeah, but GoLRD doesn't roll off the tongue. That is why I am officially naming him "Gord". [)]

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07/17/2006 3:25 PM  
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Originally posted by Thailfi

Was anyone else here extremely dissappointed in the art for War of the Dragon Queen. Not only did the nightmare box art not have any rares, it was easily the worst art ever to appear in DDM. Many of the cards were amatuerish at best.


Yup. The box art was, by a wide margin, the worst yet and some of the card/concept art was squirted out by the truly abominable Dennis Crabapple-McClain.

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07/17/2006 3:26 PM  
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quote:
Originally posted by FeranEldritchKnight

Definitely good find, and welcome news! The Gith on LRD (or GoLRD- my name I called it! [:P])


Yeah, but GoLRD doesn't roll off the tongue. That is why I am officially naming him "Gord". [)]



Feran, I would have to say that in World of Warcraft terms, you have been pwned.

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07/17/2006 3:30 PM  
If the Epic Solar had those stats, it would be way more then 300pts, the epic Balor is 326 and no where near what those stats would be, so either its going to be 400+ points or its going to be heavily nerfed (like how they nerfed the Balor)


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07/17/2006 3:30 PM  
Looking good so far....

No real use for a Solar, but you never know...

Gith Dragon.... nice high end piece, need to design adventure for it, probably get around to using the other gith as well... hmmm... crank up the hamsters...


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07/17/2006 3:33 PM  
BTW, I expect we'll see more githyanki in the set than the one riding a dragon. Last githyanki was made in GoL, and he was a rare, and githyanki are always encountered in warbands.

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07/17/2006 3:40 PM  
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Definitely good find, and welcome news! The Gith on LRD (or GoLRD- my name I called it! [:P])
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Yeah, but GoLRD doesn't roll off the tongue. That is why I am officially naming him "Gord". [)]

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07/17/2006 3:43 PM  
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HOLY FRAGAROLLEY!

Two-for-two on vindication!!!!!!!!

Damn, they just keep wanting me to buy cases, don't they???

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07/17/2006 3:49 PM  
So far, so good...

These are all strong RPG minis. Some people might waffle a bit on whether they'd use a Gith on Red Dragon, or complain that a Solar is hard to fit into most campaigns, but I think they are all strong choices.

However, we only know a few figures from the set. Accordingly, there is still a lot of room for disappointment, or for extreme pleasure.

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07/17/2006 3:51 PM  
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However, we only know a few figures from the set. Accordingly, there is still a lot of room for disappointment, or for extreme pleasure.


The wizened elder part deux (disappointment) and the reprinted Stirge (extreme pleasure) [:D]

When do the weekly previews start up again? Sometime in August?

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07/17/2006 4:09 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by kyrin

quote:
Originally posted by dariustad

quote:
Originally posted by Sammael

Githyanki have an ancient racial pact with red dragons and ride them while they're on the Prime Material.



On the Astral Plane, too. They all live on the same dead god thanks to that ancient pact.



There are many dead gods in the Astral that the Sons of Gith use to build their cities on, my friend.

And they're always looking for new real estate...

Tee-hee...

Seriously, has there been an explanation for how the Githyanki have the red dragons over such a barrel? Or am I gonna have to (gasp) make something up?

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Yes, but there's only one where Vlaa'kith lives. That's the primary link between the Gith and Red dragons.

Also, Kyrin, see if you can track down a copy of Dungeon #100. It's a single-issue super-adventure based on the whole taking on the Githyanki Lich-queen, and also includes the (short) story of how the pact was made. If that's a problem, drop me an email, and I'll summarize it for you.

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07/17/2006 4:11 PM  
Man, I'm torn. I like Githyanki; I like Red Dragons; I don't like many mounted minis.

I did like the Mounted Paladin...
I did like the Blackguard on Nightmare...
Didn't like the SoBD...
I think I'm gonna like the GoLRD though. [:D]

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07/17/2006 4:19 PM  
As for the minis:

Solar: Woo hoo! Two, please! Maybe more.

Marilith: yay! Two, too!

Gith on Red? I will own this is multiples! Yes, I will! As if there was any doubt.

Oh, lack of saddle? You don't need them in the Astral. No gravity.

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07/17/2006 4:37 PM  
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Also, Kyrin, see if you can track down a copy of Dungeon #100. It's a single-issue super-adventure based on the whole taking on the Githyanki Lich-queen, and also includes the (short) story of how the pact was made. If that's a problem, drop me an email, and I'll summarize it for you.



Ah! I've been saving that up to read until my guys reach high enough level for me to consider running it. I'll give it a look-see.

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07/17/2006 4:40 PM  
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Marilith: yay! Two, too!



ONLY two. You need to think big, pally!

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Gith on Red? I will own this is multiples! Yes, I will! As if there was any doubt.



I'll arm-wrestle ya for 'em!

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Oh, lack of saddle? You don't need them in the Astral. No gravity.



And on the Prime they hold on by sheer force of awesomeness, as per the Strongbad quote: "Do you use your powers for good, or for awesome?"

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07/17/2006 4:45 PM  
If Wizards and the various higher-ups are paying attention, they will make the Githzerai a seperate molded piece so that Ripping the bugger off will be easy...

I have my two SoBD's, one has had the sorcerer ripped at the waist and the legs dremmeled off..looks decent, but only because the plastic itself is black.

Pleasing everyone is easy if the rider is merely a seperate piece glued on...unlike the Blackguard on Nightmare which CANNOT be easily removed...


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07/17/2006 4:48 PM  
I love it!!!
Even the gith on the red dragon..love it love it love it!!

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If Wizards and the various higher-ups are paying attention, they will make the Githzerai a seperate molded piece so that Ripping the bugger off will be easy...



Blink, blink.

Githzerai???

GITHZERAI????

You may be getting a visit from the Astral Plane VERY soon...

And why would you want to tear the Knight off the Dragon? You want to re-base a "Bow-legged Githyaki Knight" mini? [:p]

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07/17/2006 4:58 PM  
Yes !! excellent news. I love the githyanki on LRD. And that possibly means more githzerai too.
This set is shaping well !

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07/17/2006 5:02 PM  
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The only wasted slots are ones given to things like the Rust Monster and Disenchanter. [:P]


Oooh, you want to start a flamewar... [:p]

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07/17/2006 5:04 PM  
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Its nice to see that the maarlith continues her tradition of selecting "Boob Coverage" as her 1st feat. Wonder if the mini will reflect that too lol.


That feat should be banned ! [:p]

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07/17/2006 5:06 PM  
This is amazing! I love the choices, and I really am wondering how they will scale down the solar, perhaps yet another titan for LG in 200, or a 120+ pt trumpet archon-esque mini.

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07/17/2006 5:16 PM  
These are 3 PERFECT minis, I love them. ^^

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07/17/2006 5:32 PM  
I have high hopes for the Solar. This should be a powerhouse titan for LG... hopefully in the 120 point range for 200 point play and 300 point range for epic. They have some very strong abilities in RPG that could be translated into skirmish...

A ranged 'save or die' missile attack?
Powerful spells?
Dancing weapon 9which could be effectuatede by giving them the ability to cast their spells as swift actions if they attack)?

Lots of potential... it just depends upon implementation.

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07/17/2006 6:02 PM  
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Its nice to see that the maarlith continues her tradition of selecting "Boob Coverage" as her 1st feat. Wonder if the mini will reflect that too lol.
Must be tough to fight and keep 'em covered. [:D]

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07/17/2006 7:09 PM  
The nice thing about the Solar is that even if you won't have your PC's fight one, they make good NPC's for giving out quests and such. And you could always have it be a succubus in disguise or under the control of a powerful devil. Truename magic might be useful with the last one.

It's deja vu all over again.
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