DaveMage
Skirmisher
29 Posts
    
 | | 07/21/2006 11:37 AM |
| Per the latest catalogue, Unhallowed will be $14.95.
See the thread on EN World...
http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=169200 | |
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JodyJ
Warrior
260 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 11:50 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Retailer Catalogue
D&D Miniatures Unhallowed Booster Pack
This latest D&D Miniatures Game release includes several infamous D&D characters and popular D&D monsters. Undead and other creatures of darkness figure prominently in the set. Various figures are drawn from key D&D titles, including the Expanded Psionic Handbook and various Eberron and Forgotten Realms supplements.
Four miniatures - one per faction - also have a second stat card that features epic-level stats specifically for high-level versions of those figures.
Eight randomized, pre-painted plastic miniatures.
March 9, 2007
$14.95/$19.95 CAN
I was wondering when the huge increase in the price of oil would make its way to the line. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 11:52 AM |
| | Is it just me or does it seem that a price increase follows the huge set release? | |
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sage_raistlin
Sergeant
377 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 11:52 AM |
| | Oh great, why am I not surprised at this, we have to pay for the clear plastic I guess and the crappy paint jobs some how...... | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1684 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 11:57 AM |
| Strange question perhaps....
What was the price before the boost? (I generally buy by the case, or from a couple of FLGS's that have weird pricing anyway.) | |
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RobWreck
Warrior
295 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 11:58 AM |
| I wonder how much this will raise the cost of a case. My FLGS usually sells cases for $100... I wonder if he's going to bump that up a bit to represent the increased MSRP of boosters.
Ah well, still cheaper to buy a case or two and trade for/eBay the rest.
Rob | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:00 PM |
| | Well thats really too bad. We've been speculating on it for ages, but I didn't really think it would happen. I wonder if the increased cost of oil (i.e. shipping costs) is the primary cause of this. | |
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JodyJ
Warrior
260 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:02 PM |
| Harbinger, Dragoneye (first run), Archfiends at $9.95
Dragoneye (second run), Aberrations, Deathknell, Angelfire, Underdark, Wardrums, Blood War at $12.95
Unhallowed, etc. at $14.95
Annual Average
Crude Oil Prices
2003-Present
U.S. Average (in $/bbl.)
Year Ave Nominal Price Ave Annual Inflation Adj. Price
2003 $27.69 $29.63 ---- production begins on DDM
2004 $37.66 $39.21 ---- prod on Aberrations and first price increase
2005 $50.04 $50.38
2006 $59.44 $60.10 ---- prod on Unhallowed and second price increase
Source US DOE/ www.economagic.com and
www.ioga.com
Made with oil byproducts, shipped with oil, distributed with oil. | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kestrel.ca
Strange question perhaps....
What was the price before the boost? (I generally buy by the case, or from a couple of FLGS's that have weird pricing anyway.)
$12.99 I believe
Yep I think giant sets are to help us swallow the price increase of the regular set boosters. Coming off a $20 booster price a $15 doesn't seem so bad. | | | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:03 PM |
| Check this out before you start digging deeper in your wallets
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786941901/sr=8-14/qid=1149176184/ref=sr_1_14/103-9004178-3348651?%5Fencoding=UTF8 | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:04 PM |
| Sadly this price increase...yes, following the next huge set...was speculated by many respected collectors out here months ago, so I had time to get used to the idea. This sure is a long way from Harbinger when it was $9.95/booster. Amazing what three years can do.
I think this price increase is probably going to hurt many groups in individuals from the casual buyer on, but store owners will probably take the big hit. With store owners paying more per booster, buyers like me will be paying more per case...and thus, less money overall. I already struggle after 10 sets of collecting to keep going. A price increase simply makes a decision to scale back that mucho easier. | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:04 PM |
| $20 a booster canadian? That's going to take some serious thinking about on my part.
There's no way the canadian dollar is going to be at 75 cents US, I don't quite understand these rather large increases in price from US to Canadian. Sure, when the dollar was at 66 cents, but now that it's close to 90? Hopefully my FLGS sticks with its new practice of selling boosters at US MSRP in canadian dollars.
Still though, 12 boosters at $15 with our 20% discount and 13% tax is going to work out to $162.61. | |
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Username
Warlord
5687 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:05 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
Is it just me or does it seem that a price increase follows the huge set release?
Technically, WotDQ saw a price boost (8 minis for 19.99$ instead 9 with GoL for 19.99$). | |
Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Ghendar
Warlord
12319 Posts
The G Spot
| | 07/21/2006 12:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
Is it just me or does it seem that a price increase follows the huge set release?
Was thinking the same thing.
quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
Well thats really too bad. We've been speculating on it for ages, but I didn't really think it would happen. I wonder if the increased cost of oil (i.e. shipping costs) is the primary cause of this.
It was only a matter of time. [:(] | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:09 PM |
| A 50% price hike in just under 3.5 years. That far outstrips the rate of inflation, but as JodyJ points out, it's consistant with the increased cost of oil.
I'll probably keep buying, but I'm not adjusting my D&D/minis budget any. That means I'll be getting less of Unhallowed than of previous sets.
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3518 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 07/21/2006 12:13 PM |
| If you buy DDM in bulk, it seems like the best price you can get is about a 35% discount off the list price of the boosters. That means Unhallowed will probably cost collectors $115 per case instead of the $100 per case the previous non-huge sets have cost.
I'm actually surprised that there wasn't an increase with Bloodwar, since WotDQ was, essentially, a price increase over GoL.
I wonder how high the price will have to go before I lose interest in buying DDM? $14.95 isn't high enough. I'll still buy that set. The price increase has definitely been much higher than inflation, but we're also getting much better miniatures than we were with earlier sets. Anybody looked at their WotDQ huges next to the GoL huges? When the price hits $20 a box for non-huge, though, I'm going to have to seriously rethink this whole DDM collecting thing. | |
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Drammattex
Sneak
95 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:14 PM |
| I would hope that as prices are raised, quality is raised as well.
Not that I have any issues with the quality of WotDQ.
However, there is always a point at which quality and price don't match up, and for many of us obsessive buyers, we're reaching the saturation point in our collection.
I wonder where the line of demarcation exists between "worth it" and "not worth it." $17 for 8 randomized pre-painted plastic minis? $20? $25?
Since we're all going to be buying cases anyway, a $1 increase won't affect most of us... yet. | |
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Boneclaw McGraw
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:21 PM |
| I was curious to see how this price hike compared to inflation. Looking at the inflation calculator at http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
$12.99 in 2005 has the same buying power as $13.50 in 2006, which is about a 3.92% increase. If that rate of inflation stays the same, then $13.50 in 2006 should have the save buying power as $14.03 in 2007. Which means the price increase is greater than the rate of inflation.
Is that right? I'm not much of an economics expert... | |
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Tasmanian_tiger
Warrior
300 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:22 PM |
| I must admit, this will probably turn me off DDM slowly.. I decided to try for a bigger budget with WOTDQ. But, in the end, it proofed to be too much. So I will be going back to my previous one (barely one case). Plus, I have all the necessary orcs/goblins/kobolds/undead for my rp. (The reason I started collecting.) I never aimed to complete a set, though I was tempted lately, this is the sure way to not try. At least my wallet will be happy. ;p I guess I will turn to single buying if the price increase happens.
I wonder how much it will be in Europe.. sigh.. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
I'll probably keep buying, but I'm not adjusting my D&D/minis budget any. That means I'll be getting less of Unhallowed than of previous sets.
Same here...only got so much cash and my wants and needs are the driving force.
quote:
Faragdar the Wise
If you buy DDM in bulk, it seems like the best price you can get is about a 35% discount off the list price of the boosters. That means Unhallowed will probably cost collectors $115 per case instead of the $100 per case the previous non-huge sets have cost.
This is the truth. But when $15 is almost a 1/2 a tank of gas. I can see it really making adifference in some people's budgets....
not a good thing or a bad thing just a thang | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
4195 Posts
West Virginia
| | 07/21/2006 12:25 PM |
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This sucks. It'll really hit people like me hard who don't have the extra money to buy 2 cases off the rip and fill in with trades. Unless case prices are still reasonably close to what they are now, I'll probably just get singles from Auggie, much to the detriment of my FLGS.
quote:
Originally posted by Drammattex
I wonder where the line of demarcation exists between "worth it" and "not worth it." $17 for 8 randomized pre-painted plastic minis? $20? $25?
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:30 PM |
| | You know, if they're going to be upping the price on minis sets, now wouldn't be the worst time to cut back to 40 minis/set. They're running a little low on a lot of the cores already, and it'll make it easier on the wallet of the average consumer, by far. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3389 Posts
Netherlands
| | 07/21/2006 12:30 PM |
| This could be the beginning of me going from ordering cases/buying boosters to buying from Ebay (Auggie) completely.
D. | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:32 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Very true. I already have a pretty extensive DDM collection. I eventually may shift to buying the essentials and leaving it at that. | |
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FeranEldritchKnight
Sergeant
385 Posts
Kansas City, MO USA
| | 07/21/2006 12:33 PM |
| | Aries points out the Amazon cost is the same as previous sets, but remember the problems with Amazon cracking open cases. If you buy cases, don't buy from Amazon, discount or not. You aren't getting a sealed case. If you buy boosters, Amazon is a good way to pre-order cheaply. Thanks for the tip! | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:34 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
You know, if they're going to be upping the price on minis sets, now wouldn't be the worst time to cut back to 40 minis/set. They're running a little low on a lot of the cores already, and it'll make it easier on the wallet of the average consumer, by far.
If they decrease the size of the set then it would make sense to increase the size of the case back to 16....at least to give those that buy in bulk a better distribution....at least where I am sitting from it makes sense.. | |
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Maimonides
Sneak
100 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:35 PM |
| | Is there any chance for an explanation and further pricing plan from Wizards? | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tasmanian_tiger
I wonder how much it will be in Europe.. sigh..
I'm expecting them to cost 15 euros. Which will be something like $19 at the time. | |
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:40 PM |
| Meh. We'd better see less filler figures as rares then, and have the rares actually be DECENT. None of this "PC type figure" nonsense. The warweaver and their ilk could have easily been uncommons. Have the rares actually be cool looking figures that are impractical to do as uncommons.
This really just reaffirms my singles/sets only habits. When your average rare is worth 5 bucks, even ebay case prices are bad deals. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
4195 Posts
West Virginia
| | 07/21/2006 12:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Maimonides
Is there any chance for an explanation and further pricing plan from Wizards?
I wouldn't hold my breath. They still haven't addressed the cruddy distribution yet(No, I don't count what Paul Barclay said as actually addressing the problem. Told us it won't happen again:yes Doing anything about the actual problems entailed:no) So I doubt they'll be any more forthcoming about this rather unpopular decision. | |
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DaveMage
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 12:57 PM |
| | At least Blood War is still $12.95... [:)] | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
4195 Posts
West Virginia
| | 07/21/2006 1:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by DaveMage
At least Blood War is still $12.95... [:)]
I wouldn't bank on that either. there's still plenty of time to boost the booster price ala CRD. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 07/21/2006 1:03 PM |
| | At $15 for a regular booster...Id say that WotC has broken Merric's Law of Miniatures....You agree? | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:06 PM |
| | Curses. I should've pre-ordered at least a couple of these when they were only $10. I just [angry sarcastic tone]had[/angry sarcastic tone] to get those 3 Blood Wars boosters. Oh well. As long as the Canadian dollar doesn't completely tank by the time Unhallowed has released, I'll suck it up and pay the $20+ dollars when loose boosters are available when I go on a road trip or something as cases are too rich for my blood. | |
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Vash
Underboss
1995 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:09 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
quote:
Originally posted by Maimonides
Is there any chance for an explanation and further pricing plan from Wizards?
I wouldn't hold my breath. They still haven't addressed the cruddy distribution yet(No, I don't count what Paul Barclay said as actually addressing the problem. Told us it won't happen again:yes Doing anything about the actual problems entailed:no) So I doubt they'll be any more forthcoming about this rather unpopular decision.
Technically if you re-read his post he says that it wont ever happen before.
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/21/2006 1:10 PM |
| | I preordered 24 boosters at Amazon at $9.95. I'll have to see if that proves to be a better price than GO... and if that price holds up or changes. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5082 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/21/2006 1:12 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vash
Technically if you re-read his post he says that it wont ever happen before.
[:P]
He did correct himself, you know [:p]
If Blood War jumps up to $15 a whack, my only stint of buying by the case/booster will have been War Drums. My gaming budget isn't getting any bigger so as prices hike, purchases tank. | |
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Anthraxus
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:16 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
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greyhaze
Warlord
6650 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:34 PM |
| If I can get unhallowed for the same price that I get Bloodwars for somewhere, I'll keep buying. But, the $12.95 mark for me was the threshold. I won't be buying for more. WotDQ was WAY too much spending, it still kinda hurts. So, I'm exhausted, financially and spiritually. Bloodwars may very well be my last set, and I would consider myself a collectibles "nut" with how much I spend on this.
WotC, you charge too much. | |
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orcdoubleax
Sergeant
694 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:38 PM |
| the price has not reach the point of being too much for me to stomach yet. I must admit, however, my collection is getting to the point of being large enought that I don't need many more for RPG.
At some point in the near future I am going to have to give up buying just because I don't need anymore. | |
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