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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
13068 Posts
    
Mud Lick, Kentucky
 | | 07/21/2006 1:46 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
War Weaver, I'm lookin' at YOU! (Awful. And I got two of 'em.)
I'm personally more concerned about the aforementioned crap rares than a price increase. However, when you combine the two, it's very troubling. | |
WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :(
I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220
G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM
I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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| The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
13068 Posts
Mud Lick, Kentucky
| | 07/21/2006 1:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
War Weaver, I'm lookin' at YOU! (Awful. And I got two of 'em.)
Hey, I can't keep pulling King Oboulds. [xx(] | |
WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :(
I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220
G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM
I dont mind butting heads every once in a while. It makes thing interesting. Thats why I'd be heartbroken if Ghendar ever left - Posted By Count Dooku on 04/03/2006 11:58 AM
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6842 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 07/21/2006 1:50 PM |
| | 15 dollars a booster is a strong deterrent to purchasing more DDM. That's too much. | |
"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:54 PM |
| | Whew! The lack of classic monsters and PC races the last three sets already has me doubting whether I will continue with DDM. This really isn't gonna help. Now it is going to be more important than ever for me to see the set before I buy it. I have never bought a booster at the $12.99 price (only discounted preorders), so there is no way I will buy one at the new price. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 1:57 PM |
| I agree the price increase is a MAJOR turnoff, but they have to make back the Dreamblade prizes from a platform that actually WORKS. [:P]
What I don't understand is everyone who's trying to tie this to the price of oil. Oil schmoil. Materials are BY FAR the cheapest portion of the product, even cheaper than the 8-year-olds painting the Frost Dwarves. [:P]. The rise in oil prices has some effect on costs, but not that much. | |
Champion of Prit(Wemic vindication is here)
Minneapolis/St. Paul area
Completed trades: Aspect of Cheese (Love that moniker), Tickparasite, Elderthing, Lalato, Sodj, Grimoire, SmilinIrish, Zeb, RWarehall,Link, wikkawikkawa, Auramancer, Rommers, HK, Ivid5,Qillan_dvra, Puggins, Arcabius, Ironfist Boulderbender, Robby, Corim Danex, monster_slayer, DNDJUNKIE, Kelemvor, Krush, ckissee, Massawyrm, hockey fan, Wish, Uninspiring Lieutenant, vtloon x2, Vrecknidj, Darthpoke, WakeXX, AnarionZell, lycusmike, papabear5 and umpteen local trades with board members
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yack
Commander
3320 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 07/21/2006 2:09 PM |
| | Don't matter that huge for me because after Bloodwar ..I'm buying singles of what I just need. My undead for RPG is almost at its limit. | |
Champion of the Peryton
Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer
DW: Duergar Priest
RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
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dblizzard
Sneak
57 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 2:20 PM |
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Originally posted by Gunthar
What I don't understand is everyone who's trying to tie this to the price of oil. Oil schmoil. Materials are BY FAR the cheapest portion of the product, even cheaper than the 8-year-olds painting the Frost Dwarves. [:P]. The rise in oil prices has some effect on costs, but not that much.
Yup, materials aren't a major cost factor.Transportation, on the other hand is one of the largest. Combine the two... | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 2:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by dblizzard
quote:
Originally posted by Gunthar
What I don't understand is everyone who's trying to tie this to the price of oil. Oil schmoil. Materials are BY FAR the cheapest portion of the product, even cheaper than the 8-year-olds painting the Frost Dwarves. [:P]. The rise in oil prices has some effect on costs, but not that much.
Yup, materials aren't a major cost factor.Transportation, on the other hand is one of the largest. Combine the two...
yes, transport is a major cost. I was a bit tounge-in-cheek when I said it, but many seem to think the materials price is the big factor. | |
Champion of Prit(Wemic vindication is here)
Minneapolis/St. Paul area
Completed trades: Aspect of Cheese (Love that moniker), Tickparasite, Elderthing, Lalato, Sodj, Grimoire, SmilinIrish, Zeb, RWarehall,Link, wikkawikkawa, Auramancer, Rommers, HK, Ivid5,Qillan_dvra, Puggins, Arcabius, Ironfist Boulderbender, Robby, Corim Danex, monster_slayer, DNDJUNKIE, Kelemvor, Krush, ckissee, Massawyrm, hockey fan, Wish, Uninspiring Lieutenant, vtloon x2, Vrecknidj, Darthpoke, WakeXX, AnarionZell, lycusmike, papabear5 and umpteen local trades with board members
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robby
Sergeant
918 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 2:26 PM |
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I'm likely going to be in the minority on this, but GOOD. Its about damn time. If it costs more to keep quality in the product, then I applaud a price increase. Better than cutting corners.
Now, if we get a price increase and the quality doesn't increase to previous levels (and not just paint quality, but glue seams, general QA - the whole deal), then I'll be miffed about it.
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 2:27 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by dblizzard
quote:
Originally posted by Gunthar
What I don't understand is everyone who's trying to tie this to the price of oil. Oil schmoil. Materials are BY FAR the cheapest portion of the product, even cheaper than the 8-year-olds painting the Frost Dwarves. [:P]. The rise in oil prices has some effect on costs, but not that much.
Yup, materials aren't a major cost factor.Transportation, on the other hand is one of the largest. Combine the two...
Simple enough. Chain the 8-year olds to ships, have them pedal to power the ship while painting. Problem solved! | |
Completed trades: Zarnof, Salmander, Pigsnot, qillan_dvra, SilgentG, Ironfist Boulderbender, robdaman.
Reference thread: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8859
CHAMPION OF THE DOG! | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/21/2006 2:30 PM |
| My Guesses for prices for Unhallowed:
GO prices:
1 Case ~$110
2 Cases ~$216
3 Cases ~$319
Ebay Sets:
Presale: ~$250 - $350
Around release: ~$225
A few weeks following release: ~$190
Mid-summer: ~$180
End of 2007: ~$165
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Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06)
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Round Table
Thenameless
Warlord
12481 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 07/21/2006 2:47 PM |
| | I think our group will be fine with increase in price. Everyone just buys enough to either finish a set or fill their skirmish/rpg needs, then we all just start trading with each other. It works out pretty nicely. | |
Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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TroglodyteWizard89
349 Posts
USA
| | 07/21/2006 2:52 PM |
| | Boo...looks like Bloodwars will be my last set after all. The first price increase really turned me off(i loved the crisp 2 boosters for 20 bucks, loved it.) I suppose if I need to pick up a piece here and there for RPG, I'll do singles for UnHallowed...but no boosters/cases for me. | |
Champion of Troglodytes!
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:13 PM |
| | That's disappointing news. As others have said, unless something happens to increase my budget, I'll have to buy less. Not a big deal, personally, since as a long-time collector I have tons of miniatures anyways, but still a little sad. | |
Champion of the Rakshasa. Check out my Mini Terrain Maker, or my new Dungeon Map Maker (under development). | |
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Zyla
Underboss
1201 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:17 PM |
| | I could also see desirable figures in Unhollowed costing more on the secondary market then previous non-huge sets, as you will be paying almost $5 higher to get a chase rare out of Unhallowed then you would in Wardrums. | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:34 PM |
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Originally posted by Count Dooku
At $15 for a regular booster...Id say that WotC has broken Merric's Law of Miniatures....You agree?
Very good point. Even I've bought into Merric's law of minis... | | | |
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RobWreck
Warrior
295 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
War Weaver, I'm lookin' at YOU! (Awful. And I got two of 'em.)
Whoa... War Weaver, Awful? Have I introduced you to Mr. Wizened Elder Watcher? Now THAT'S an AWFUL rare...
Rob | |
Champion of Aspect of Pelor
If the Founding Fathers of our country were conservatives, we'd still be colonies of England... | |
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ehren37
Sergeant
642 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:46 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by RobWreck
quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
War Weaver, I'm lookin' at YOU! (Awful. And I got two of 'em.)
Whoa... War Weaver, Awful? Have I introduced you to Mr. Wizened Elder Watcher? Now THAT'S an AWFUL rare...
Rob
In all fairness, they both suck. WAY too many of WODQ's rares suck as rares. Wizened Elder Watcher, Meepo, War Weaver, Goliath, Dragonborn Fighter, Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat, Spellscale Sorcerer. I'd personally add the dino rider and tordek to the list. Half the damn set's rares are B-grade or lower.
I dont think theres been a crappier selection of rares since Aberrations. | |
Completed trades: Zarnof, Salmander, Pigsnot, qillan_dvra, SilgentG, Ironfist Boulderbender, robdaman.
Reference thread: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8859
CHAMPION OF THE DOG! | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:51 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ehren37
I dont think theres been a crappier selection of rares since Aberrations.
Champion of Yondalla, Valorous Prince, Dwarf Samurai, Ambush Drake, Warpriest of Hextor, Goliath Barbarian, Rask, GFD (ok, he's cool for skirmish anyway), Mummy Lord, Ravenous Vampire. | |
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Anthraxus
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 3:52 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by RobWreck
Whoa... War Weaver, Awful? Have I introduced you to Mr. Wizened Elder Watcher? Now THAT'S an AWFUL rare...
Rob
Heh. While I haven't seen a Wizened Elder Watcher in person, my War Weavers suffer from the "Hey, they only managed to paint about 15% of this thing, and the rest is flat black!" syndrome. [V]
Anyway, should they up the price to the suggested figure, I'd hope for less War Weavers and Wizened Elder Watchers, and more "Cool" Chase Rares per set. | |
Yeah, I really need to work on my H/W list one of these days...
Completed trades: 17 ; Pending: 2
Champion of Yugoloths | |
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Drammattex
Sneak
95 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 4:13 PM |
| What I'm the most sad about is the ME of 2003.
The ME of 2003 loves D&D but makes his living as an actor/waiter/substitute teacher/temp, sometimes going for short periods without gainful employment.
The ME of 2003 makes less than $12k/year with expenses that equal about $12k/year, if not more.
This is not a sob story. The ME of 2004 and on is obviously well paid to sit at an office, write on message boards all day, and afford lots of minis. I have them all, in fact.
No, my heart goes out to anyone with a regular job and regular expenses making less than $30k and struggling to afford this hobby.
At the rate we're going, gamers who are artists, gamers who are under 23 (the age when many graduate from college and start working real jobs), gamers who have low-income jobs... all of these people are either going to have to make minis a financial priority in order to afford them, or else NOT afford them.
ANYway, there it is. My heart goes out to all of you guys struggling to put sets together because you love this game.
I'm not complaining about prices. As long as I'm buying cases, I can afford the extra dollar per booster. It's no big thing to the ME of 2006. But that's a sign that DDM is becoming more and more exclusive. Again, I want to know where it stops. An 8-figure booster: $17? $20? $25
In other news... if the figures all looked like professionally painted REAPER minis, I would totally understand. | |
Unlikely Champion of Morgan Ironwolf | |
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Custom Title
WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 07/21/2006 4:24 PM |
| | For that price the minis,sculpts and paint jobs have to be top notch to keep me buying.No filler rares,all should be excellent monsters that haven't been done,8 large uncommons in the set,3 or 4 tinys.Liberal use of clear plastic and paint strokes,no glue seams.No distribution problems or anything. | | | |
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Grim
Sergeant
482 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 4:30 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by RobWreck
Whoa... War Weaver, Awful? Have I introduced you to Mr. Wizened Elder Watcher? Now THAT'S an AWFUL rare...
Rob
Heh. While I haven't seen a Wizened Elder Watcher in person, my War Weavers suffer from the "Hey, they only managed to paint about 15% of this thing, and the rest is flat black!" syndrome. [V]
Anyway, should they up the price to the suggested figure, I'd hope for less War Weavers and Wizened Elder Watchers, and more "Cool" Chase Rares per set.
Imagine my horror at pulling 4 Wizened Elders from my cases, along with 4 Slaughterstone Eviscerators (1 is good, 4 is overkill). | |
I am a leaf on the wind...Urrk!!--Wash, "Serenity" | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7703 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 4:34 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
For that price the minis,sculpts and paint jobs have to be top notch to keep me buying.No filler rares,all should be excellent monsters that haven't been done,8 large uncommons in the set,3 or 4 tinys.Liberal use of clear plastic and paint strokes,no glue seams.No distribution problems or anything.
Grudgingly, I would go for that. But, the pessimist in me says that it's just not gonna be that way. I think that the upper crust is testing how far they can push this market's spending habits.
Nice to see you here Drammattex, and you're point about the ME of 2003, yep, sure glad I have a steady job and am not a struggling youth that they claim is their target audience. | |
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Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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Drammattex
Sneak
95 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 5:00 PM |
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Nice to see you here Drammattex, and you're point about the ME of 2003, yep, sure glad I have a steady job and am not a struggling youth that they claim is their target audience.
Thanks! [:)] I was actually just following your advice. [:D]
...even though I feel naked without my beatnick icon. [:I]
Agreed about the target audience thing. Confusing.
Ok everybody, have a great weekend! | |
Unlikely Champion of Morgan Ironwolf | |
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Ragecage
Sergeant
362 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 5:01 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Drammattex
At the rate we're going, gamers who are artists, gamers who are under 23 (the age when many graduate from college and start working real jobs), gamers who have low-income jobs... all of these people are either going to have to make minis a financial priority in order to afford them, or else NOT afford them.
ANYway, there it is. My heart goes out to all of you guys struggling to put sets together because you love this game.
This explains my situation. I was pushing the limits of income and obsession as it was. Starting next month I will be attending law school, therefor my income will drop significantly. I seriously doubt that I could afford minis at my current price range, not to mention the extra kicker of a price bump. Ouch! [B)] | |
KoK: MiNi Apostle
CHAMPION of STURM, SOLAMNIC KNIGHT | |
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spikegif
Warlord
5699 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 5:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Anthraxus
quote:
Originally posted by Wraithborne
How I'm feeling now, it's pretty close to $14.95. Most likely, I'll become Auggies new best friend. One thing for sure is that I will be a lot less tolerant of mediocre set lists. $12.99 is hard enough now on the pittance I earn. This may spell the end of my compulsive "Gotta get 'em all" collector spirit.
Wraithborne has captured my sentiments exactly. For that price, I'd hope for tighter set lists, and less "Crap" rares.
War Weaver, I'm lookin' at YOU! (Awful. And I got two of 'em.)
I did notice that many of the rares in WotDQ are of the "crap" quality of minis, with many of them being medium sized. | |
First peon to make it to "Knight Warlord"
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sage_raistlin
Sergeant
377 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 5:27 PM |
| Don't expect anything better for the price. The paint jobs will remain the same and the crappy rares will still be there. They are just doing this to increase thier income. I highly doubt they will be investing anymore R & D into producing the figures. I get the impression we are at the best the level is going to get with quality and paint. They only thing that might change is more larger figures in the sets, but I doubt this will even happen. Bottom line here it's about how much money they can make out of this line of product. In all honesty, I wonder how much thier bottom line cost has increased since the first set was released till now. I'ld be amazed is the over all cost per figure has gone up over .10 on adverage in the 3 years.
Wizards sees a money maker here, so they are going to keep pushing it up until it dries up and then are going to wonder what happened for it to flop. If they are not careful, they are going to end up going the was of GW and thier figures and end up lossing a lot of thier players. | |
Hello Boys, I'm Back
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(not pretty, but it still counts) | |
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Hejas
Sergeant
435 Posts
Poland
| | 07/21/2006 6:07 PM |
| This is REALLY bad news. I think that 50% of DDM players here will stop buying boosters.
But it's not really confirmed, is it?
Unless, of course, boosters will contain more minis or the quality will be much better. | |
~Polish~DDM~Elite~ ;-)
Champion of the Psion Killer.
Knight of the "Baldur's Gate" Characters.
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6842 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 07/21/2006 6:24 PM |
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Originally posted by sage_raistlin
Wizards sees a money maker here, so they are going to keep pushing it up until it dries up and then are going to wonder what happened for it to flop. If they are not careful, they are going to end up going the was of GW and thier figures and end up lossing a lot of thier players.
Raising the booster price will cause it to dry up faster than it would have otherwise. This, I believe, will lessen their overall profits. | |
"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Most Edumacated
zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/21/2006 7:19 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Corim Danex
[quote]Originally posted by sage_raistlin
Wizards sees a money maker here, so they are going to keep pushing it up until it dries up and then are going to wonder what happened for it to flop. If they are not careful, they are going to end up going the was of GW and thier figures and end up lossing a lot of thier players.
With the price of oil (i.e. transportation) skyrocketing, I imagine the price increase doesn't have a huge amount to do with profit margin increase. Profit margin maintenance seems much more likely.
Besides, if the volume of sales decreases, either the line will drop, or they'll find a way to decrease the price. | |
Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie?
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Knight of the Large Dire Chicken
Have/Want List
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 07/21/2006 7:42 PM |
| | We're still paying less than people pay for metal figures... so I'm still copunting my blessings. But, I do think we're hitting prices that will be hard for some people to handle. | |
Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06)
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Massawyrm
Sneak
89 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 7:50 PM |
| Um...guys?
Did any of you read the listings? Because I haven't heard a single mention of, you know, that other thing listed on the page...that little item..well, you know, the January release date
Mother Freaking Gargantuan Blue Dragon!!!!
And, oh yeah, that one's 10 bucks more than the black.
That is all. | |
If you have to ask what DA is, then I never whooped your ass with it. | |
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PrometheusEnslaved
Sneak
78 Posts
Central Florida
| | 07/21/2006 8:09 PM |
| Whether due to the skyrocketing expense of oil or just the general inflation of production expenses over the last two years, an increase in price was inevitable. All the same, the fact that it went up by $2 per booster rather than just a dollar does sting a bit, especially when the paintjobs have steadily decreased in quality, in my opinion, since Archfiends.
And any added expense from transparent plastics? Yeah, they should dump the clear plastics and save us all the money right now, because I'm mostly disappointed with their use in WotDQ. The elementals look fantastic, but giving Tordek a funky blue axe...what's the point? Especially when the rest of him is as poorly painted as he is. I would have preferred to see him get an extra paint step or two so the paintjob matched the sculpt. The clear plastics are ideal for psionic weapons, but don't translate very well to magical weapons. At least, not as they are. Unless they can layer the plastics, so there's a normal weapon underneath and then the clear plastic on top to represent the magical aura of flames or electricity or poison, then I'd just as soon have them stick to representing magical with paint as they did in the past, or work to improve the sculpts in conjunction with additional paint effects so the weapons look as good as the Red Samurai's sword, with flames sculpted onto the blade and painted to look like flames dancing alone the edge.
In all honesty though, both War Drums and War of the Dragon Queen have been disappointments for me. Blood War will really be the last chance I give WotC to keep my business. So, unless Blood War completely blows me away, proving that WotC have worked out all the production glitches and are truly committed to improving the product as they've promised since the price increase during Archfiends, there's no way I'll swallow $15 boosters for Unhallowed. | |
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DaveMage
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 8:13 PM |
| | I expect that Blood War will be very well done. | |
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Yukon Cornelius
Warrior
337 Posts
| | 07/21/2006 8:49 PM |
| | I guess we'll see if it's worth it. I for one am going to be even more ruthless about asking for replacements for crappy paint jobs and substandard assembly. (Which reminds me that I need to send my Fang Dragon with the broken wing back in.) Ugh. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6842 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 07/21/2006 8:53 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Massawyrm
Um...guys?
Did any of you read the listings? Because I haven't heard a single mention of, you know, that other thing listed on the page...that little item..well, you know, the January release date
Mother Freaking Gargantuan Blue Dragon!!!!
And, oh yeah, that one's 10 bucks more than the black.
That is all.
Well, I won't be getting that one. One gargantuan is enough for me. With a price hike, I don't even want to look for a discounted one. | |
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dumdragon
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| | 07/21/2006 9:22 PM |
| I'm not that shocked that the price is going up again. I do hope for an increase in QC/paint/rarity choices to go along with the price increase. Mayby shortcomings in recent sets will be corrected with this hike.
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| | 07/21/2006 9:53 PM |
| | UGH! See I understand it hurts you case buyers, but it REALLY kills me, and other high school students. I can only afford a few boosters a set, and maybe a prerelease. I can get a single or two but thats it. I am both a skirmisher and RPG'er, and my friends really like the minis. But with car insurance being insane as it is, college around the corner, etc. I just can barely keep up with it. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/21/2006 10:00 PM |
| I don't think this price increase is going to be that bad in the end. Unlike what the common sentiment is on this thread would suggest, most casual buyers I talk to and demo to have been very happy with the sculpts and believe that they have increased in quality.
Also, if you're just interested in buying a few boosters here and there and not several cases, like a lot of us here do, $2 is not that much of an increase. The difference between $13 and $15 is really slight and those people who won't afford a booster because of gas prices or other costs can't do so now, and they are upset at those prices, not the product.
We as the avid customer would want them to keep the prices the same, but it's not surprising with the absurd increase in oil over the last year alone. For a product made from oil (plastic) and that has to be shipped a 15% (2/13) increase in price seems slight compared to 184% increase in oil to date ($74 a barrel/$26 a barrel).
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