The Inscribed One
Skirmisher
10 Posts
    
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Originally posted by Zenthrus:
So classic, it's in Dragoneye
I'd much prefer to see a great many other things than a common resculpt of the Carrion Crawler.
Yeah, but who can afford to get a handful of them. I have one from DE, and every time I've used them in RPG, it was always by the swarm. Just a thought | |
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greyhaze
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7713 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 2:33 PM |
| | Carrion Crawler should be uncommon at most. Common is overkill. But yes, it's nice to have a few for an encounter. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3171 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 4:13 PM |
| For me, it's gotta be the Large Fiendish Centipede.
They're perfect: A large critter, but with few hit points. Also a prime subject for summoning spells.
Although a horse or mounted man-at-arms would be boffo.
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1760 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 5:06 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Inscribed One
Carrion Crawler. A classic if there ever was one.
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| | 07/27/2006 5:29 PM |
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oyvind
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238 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 6:03 PM |
| I think that an ooze would be great. Easy sculpt and color. The only ooze so far is the rare Ochre Jelly. The oozes are the only type of creature with only 1 miniature so far (deathless already has two; even subtypes of humanoids like dragonborn and xeph have more minis!). It's definitely time for another ooze. Why not make a large one and make it common. (We're still allowed to dream, aren't we? Well here goes:) Think about the possibility of a common Gelatinous Cube!!! I know, I know... Transparent and all that... An empty one (or even hollow one to save on the transparent plastic AND add the benefit of being able to "feed" your GC with other minis) could be done, though... (crossing fingers, toes, arms and legs!)
Other things I think they could make as commons are Dire Tigers, Large Monstrous Centipede (none so far, regardless of size!), and maybe more Large Duergar. I, myself, particularly like the last idea! We can't have too many large duergar!!!
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3547 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 07/27/2006 6:30 PM |
| I thought they weren't going to do large commons for DDM? Why did WotC change its mind? Was there that much of a cry from the community? After reading the articles about how DDM is made, I really don't want a large common. I can't think of anything that can be done in a common slot that I'd want large numbers of. Large minis add a lot of volume to my collection. I only want the extras if they're attractively done, useful minis, which is manageable in an uncommon slot. I also don't want resources in a set devoted away from making the rest of the set snazzy.
That said, I predict some sort of ooze. | |
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scruffydude7
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1196 Posts
Rock Hill, SC
| | 07/27/2006 6:40 PM |
| I must say that I agree with Faragdar the Wise. I don't have a bunch of storage space, and a whole bunch of larges wouldn't help. I trust that if there is indeed a large common, the design team will make a wise choice on what creature it will be. Storage space and the utility of the large common are my only concerns.
I also like Faragdar's prediction of the large common being an ooze/slime/jelly. That would make it a relatively small large, as well as a useful one.
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driordan
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52 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 9:23 PM |
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Originally posted by Wayne
A tavern table.
Given the theme of the set, it may be a fiendish tavern table . . . | |
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yack
Commander
3320 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 07/27/2006 9:54 PM |
| | I would love a grey ooze!!! | |
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berus316
Sergeant
663 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 07/27/2006 11:27 PM |
| if it's a common, then it's going to have extremely limited paint...
so mostly black probably....
my guess would be a slug, ooze or some such....
black pudding would be my 'official' guess if someone is taking score | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/27/2006 11:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by CarrionCrawler
Celestial Bison. That's what it'll be. Mark my words. Your wish is granted, long live Crawler.
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arbados
Underboss
1450 Posts
New York, USA
| | 07/27/2006 11:49 PM |
| | Have to agree that a large common is not something I am really that interested in (storage, paint scheme). However, in keeping in line with the thread it would have to be an ooze (Black Pudding w/o a doubt). That is probably an ok large common if it had to be made. | |
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The Inscribed One
Skirmisher
10 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 1:38 AM |
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Originally posted by The Inscribed One
A large Black Pudding would be welcome in my collection any day. I mean, you can't ask for anything simpler sculpt and paint-wise...
Sorry berus, I called it first. [)] | |
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berus316
Sergeant
663 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 07/28/2006 9:13 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Inscribed One
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Originally posted by The Inscribed One
A large Black Pudding would be welcome in my collection any day. I mean, you can't ask for anything simpler sculpt and paint-wise...
Sorry berus, I called it first. [)]
That's fine... I'm merely agreeing that it will likely be something along those lines...
and for all the folks complaining about storage space for large commons.... use a shoe box.... label it with a sharpie...geez...
I think you'd get people complaining about free money being handed out cause the bills weren't crisp enough.
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The Inscribed One
Skirmisher
10 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 10:42 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by berus
and for all the folks complaining about storage space for large commons.... use a shoe box.... label it with a sharpie...geez...
I think you'd get people complaining about free money being handed out cause the bills weren't crisp enough
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/28/2006 10:55 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by berus316
I think you'd get people complaining about free money being handed out cause the bills weren't crisp enough.
Or because the bills were folded the wrong way. I think Sulaco has a saying about that....
On the other hand, large commons aren't free money. They're a large mini that is bound to have very low-quality paintjobs and likely will also have inferior-quality sculpts (see the SWM Yuzzum). Combine this with the fact that there are very few Large minis that are encountered in very large (8+) numbers, and you're bound to have a lot of people scratching their heads wondering 'why bother?' | |
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 12:04 PM |
| If we do get a large common, I think horse is the most likely candidate. It's a fairly simple sculpt with a small color pallette and most RPGers could use at least a few of them. On top of that, its skirmish cost is sure to be in line with most commons. I think it would be great.
It is sure to be some type of critter or vermin. It would not be a bad thing to introduce beetles either. I just can't see it being a humanoid. Uncommon ogres are pushing it for complexity and cost. | |
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berus316
Sergeant
663 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 07/28/2006 1:14 PM |
| quote:
Combine this with the fact that there are very few Large minis that are encountered in very large (8+) numbers, and you're bound to have a lot of people scratching their heads wondering 'why bother?'
Maybe it'll just be awesome and everyone will be jumping in the air with joy and love in their hearts. People will be hugging in the streets and handing each other little glass bottles of coke.
Personally, I think it's be a black ooze that everyone will nickname "pooh" or something. | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 2:28 PM |
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Originally posted by kyrin
For me, it's gotta be the Large Fiendish Centipede.
They're perfect: A large critter, but with few hit points. Also a prime subject for summoning spells.
You have impeccable taste. I wholly agree, especially since there seems to be practically every other commonly used vermin made or can be proxied for. Centipedes are slightly difficult to proxy for although if it came down to "do or die", like someone else who mentioned it(I could be wrong but I think it was Sulaco who said it), fiedish dire weasels can do the trick due to the pose if you need medium or small centipedes(I forget what size the weasels are) and I guess the Purple Worm can proxy for a huge one, although due to the lack of limbs and fairly bright colour it somewhat saps the effect of fear off the players' faces if you are RPGing but I guess that is what repainting and adding parts is for. Otherwise, a Large Fiendish Centipede is highly welcomed in my book. | |
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Nixlord
Underboss
2468 Posts
Quezon City, Philippines
| | 07/28/2006 2:56 PM |
| A Large Centipide sounds nice, but for practical reasons I would prefer a common club-wielding Ogre/Hill Giant Skeleton.
In my campaign where giants are fairly common, this would really solve my need for a group of large humanoid/giant skeletons that are often raised by my player's necromancer or by enemy necromancers.
This common giant skeleton should be good enough to actually be played as an ogre, troll, verbeeg, or any classic giant skeleton.
The Boneclaw, Minotaur Skeleton, and Skeletal Equiceph have features that are a little too distracting for me to be proxied as giant skeletons. [:p]
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maineman
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90 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 3:38 PM |
| GIANT RAT!! You could use it if your D&D party happens to end up in the Nutcracker!
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
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| | 07/28/2006 5:47 PM |
| How about the ever not-present Gelatinous Cube? It's a simple sculpt of clear plastic (I'm picturing a large square ice cube on a round black base). If WOTC does like they did with the HFE, it would be mostly hollow anyway. And maybe they feel bad that they haven't given us one yet, and are going to make up for it by giving us more than we can stand.
Otherwise, I'd like to see:
Skeletal Horse
Animated table
Large treasure chest shaped Mimic
Large Water Elemental (a simple sculpt like the medium one, just in hollowed out clear plastic)
Large Air Elemental (or fire even, see above commentary)
Giant Snake (everyone hates snakes, and goes well with "Snakes on a Plane")
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scifirules
Sergeant
354 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 6:19 PM |
| Large commons, eh? Maybe some kind of large snake? I'm not sure if those are in the RPG, but something like this would be nice for skirmish:
Giant Snake
ANY; 15-20 points
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 8:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Beer Baron
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 11:11 PM |
| I think that the Bison (however nifty) is better off as an Uncommon. Large Common should be something encountered in HUGE numbers or easily proxied into something else.
Vermin (Beatles, Centi/Milli-pedes, Spidies, etc.) are the best call (IMO). Snakes wouldn't be bad. But Indy hates snakes. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 07/29/2006 2:10 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
I think that the Bison (however nifty) is better off as an Uncommon. Large Common should be something encountered in HUGE numbers or easily proxied into something else.
Vermin (Beatles, Centi/Milli-pedes, Spidies, etc.) are the best call (IMO). Snakes wouldn't be bad. But Indy hates snakes.
I don't know how well even Vermin would work.
Centipedes are solitary hunters. Millipedes are vegetarians, and they're pretty chill. Spiders are -also- solitary hunters. And beetles? They tend to also be solitary, though not always. Scorpions run into the same problems.
If Giant Ants were large, they'd be a good choice. Giant Wasp would be a good choice, but it's too complex for a good common.
Ogre w/makeshift club and Dire Wolf would be the best choices by a wide margin, I think. A Large Snake would also work reasonably well, just because yuan-ti can morph into them. | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1399 Posts
| | 07/29/2006 5:28 PM |
| | Knowing it has to be a very basic stuff and not many paint steps (and probably grey/black/brown), I'd discard the ogre and the horse [:(]. I'd go for the giant snake... | |
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kyrin
Commander
3171 Posts
| | 07/29/2006 6:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kunimatyu
I don't know how well even Vermin would work.
Centipedes are solitary hunters. Millipedes are vegetarians, and they're pretty chill. Spiders are -also- solitary hunters. And beetles? They tend to also be solitary, though not always. Scorpions run into the same problems.
Not every encounter is random, ya know...
Three words: Summoning, summoning, summoning.
Also, the vermin could be kept as pets by a BBEG. Dark elves, especially, keep lots o' spiders. Pit trap containing centipedes. Scorpions kept to milk their poison. I even have minions of Set ride giant scorpions into battle. And there's a whole prestige class called the Vermin Lord.
Plenty of RPG uses for large numbers of large vermin. Bring 'em on!
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5692 Posts
| | 07/29/2006 7:11 PM |
| | Also, Xen'drik Drow are to scorpions of all sizes as 'normal' drow are to spiders of all sizes. | |
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Yukon Cornelius
Warrior
337 Posts
| | 07/29/2006 11:33 PM |
| Don't forget the Darktrooper, Phase I was a large common as well.
It's a little more complex than the Yuzzem in terms of both paint and sculpt. I think it was three pieces, but it may have been only two. Either way, it shows that something equally complex can be done as a DDM large common.
My short list:
Horse
Basic cavalry
Giant skeleton
Spiders and other large vermin
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mazra
Sergeant
442 Posts
Canton, GA
| | 07/30/2006 7:27 PM |
| I would agree with those that picked something like the following:
Celestial Giant Fire Beetle (SM I)
Celestial Giant Bombardier Beetle (SM II)
Celestial Bison (SM III)
Fiendish Large Viper (SM III)
These would be my bets being from the Summon Monsters list, and relatively simple sculpts, paints and washes.
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orcdoubleax
Sergeant
694 Posts
| | 07/31/2006 5:31 AM |
| This just in.
The Large common is a Table.[:0]
But the chairs are uncommon. [:o)]
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Pale Rider
Underboss
1023 Posts
London, Ontario, Canada
| | 07/31/2006 9:01 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by robby
quote:
Originally posted by Ridureyu
A horse.
For once, we agree. A horse.
Your PCs fight a lot of horses do they?
I think i would rather see a more 'exotic' animal. Horses just don't thrill me and I can't think of anytime I've needed horses without riders. Now a mounted common, human soldier on a horsewould be great but seems highly unlikely.
I'll say a snake. When was the last snake-like figure we had? Naga in Underdark? I'd love a plain, green and/or brown large common snake please. Cobra or python species preferred. | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 08/01/2006 5:02 PM |
| | A simple ogre would rock, but I'm afraid it will be an animal-thing. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 08/01/2006 5:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by mazra
I would agree with those that picked something like the following:
Celestial Giant Fire Beetle (SM I)
Celestial Giant Bombardier Beetle (SM II)
Celestial Bison (SM III)
Fiendish Large Viper (SM III)
These would be my bets being from the Summon Monsters list, and relatively simple sculpts, paints and washes.
Only the Viper and Bison are actually Large -- the fire beetle is Small, and the bombardier beetle is Medium. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 08/01/2006 6:13 PM |
| | What I want is a plain old club-wielding properly scaled ogre. Pot belly would be nice but is optional. | |
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Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
North Carolina
| | 08/01/2006 6:48 PM |
| I would guess a vermin type.
Swarms
Centipede Swarm ? One color plus a wash. | |
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Kunimatyu
Sergeant
725 Posts
| | 08/01/2006 11:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mortusbard
I would guess a vermin type.
Swarms
Centipede Swarm ? One color plus a wash.
I really hope if they do swarms in the future, they make them as Medium Commons with a very flat top surface. Large bases as swarms just doesn't work so well, given that swarms in RPG don't always stay in a square. | |
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lyus_sleyden
Warrior
253 Posts
| | 08/02/2006 9:21 AM |
| I will be something we will not think of....Like an Ogre Bouncer or something like that....
I would like it to be a Displacer Beast so my Pack Lords would have something to play with....
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