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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
    
 | | 08/04/2006 8:35 AM |
| I have a question about when the time comes to preorder Blood wars and future sets.
Do you prefer sealed cases Game outfitter, battleworks, EBay and the like or ordering individual boosters from places like buy.com, Amazon, EBay and overstock.
I've only ordered multiple cases from Game outfitter, so have a limited idea on shipping time frame. I was one of the "1st tier" shippers for WotDQ and I received my cases 1 week after release. Is this considered good?
I pre-ordered 24 War Drum boosters through Buy.com and received them 1 week prior to the official release date.
When you from buy.com etc. you receive individual random boosters (no guarantee on what's on the cover of the booster). This means you "could" get more multiples of certain rares and less or none of others, than you would if you ordered sealed cases.
A. Is it worth it to order the cases, believing that the chances are higher to complete a set though possibly receiving them a week or more later?
B. Ordering multiple boosters and playing the odds?
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 10:02 AM |
| Others may disagree but I'd always set my sights on getting a sealed case. The last time I ordered single boosters (6 Deathknell from GO) I still received a duplicate (Warpriest of Hextor) which is something I'd really like to avoid. Ordering multiple cases does offer the same risk as multiple boosters as can easilty be shown by looking a WotDQ. In WotDQ I haven't heard anyone complain about getting repeated rares in the SAME case so distribution within a case looks fine but there are too many cases that have a very similiar distribution of rares.
Shipping speed can be important but I'd almost always let price determine where I buy. My Wardrums case from GO arrive within days of the official release so don't consider times to always be constant. Also note that retailers who put product into their customers hands too early may earn the ire of a certain halfling that lurks these boards and any associates she may have.
If price isn't a problem and you plan to order a large enough volume sealed cases are the way to go.
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Thenameless
Warlord
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| | 08/04/2006 10:06 AM |
| | I feel better about buying sealed cases. Nice to remove the unknown quantity of possible cherry-picking. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7697 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 10:16 AM |
| | I order sealed cases through my FLGS. He matches the price of Game Outfitters, but I actually get them on time. | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 10:30 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Thenameless
I feel better about buying sealed cases. Nice to remove the unknown quantity of possible cherry-picking.
Other than WotDQ, do you feel that happens very often? | |
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Mama Cass
Warrior
286 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 12:25 PM |
| When case distro is good (non-Huge set) you are going to get better numbers on Common and Uncommon with cases.
How did you make out on WOTQ with buy.com? | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 08/04/2006 12:27 PM |
| My approach depends upon what I know of the set - and has been known to use options that you've failed to include in your list.
If the set has a good number of commons and uncommons that I want in multiples, I tend to preorder cases so that I can get those figures in large numbers while getting a decent number of rares for collection. This is, of course, followed by trading and singles purchases.
If the set doesn't have many uncommons or commons that I want in large numbers, I tend to actually go with a complete set off Ebay and follow-up singles purchases to fill out the fwe uncommons and commons I do want in large numbers.
However, regardless of the plan I use for the majority of my pieces, I always end up buying a few single packs - mostly for sealed tournaments - and I love the thrill of getting those pieces.
However, when looking at only the two options you list: by case or by booster: I think it all comes do risk acceptance. If you're willing to run a little risk, you can get buy by the booster and have more duplicate figures (maybe of good figures, maybe of bad ones), or you can buy by the case and have a broader distribution... (on average). | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 12:38 PM |
| | I simply cannot afford to buy even a single case for a new set as it just isn't worth it. I scrimp and save most of the time just so I can try to see if I can perhaps afford figures from older sets in a better manner than risking so much on random pulls. A few boosters from Amazon is good enough for me. | |
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Orion72
Underboss
1917 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 1:08 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra
I simply cannot afford to buy even a single case for a new set as it just isn't worth it. I scrimp and save most of the time just so I can try to see if I can perhaps afford figures from older sets in a better manner than risking so much on random pulls. A few boosters from Amazon is good enough for me.
For what you pay for a few boosters from amazon, you can buy singles from eBay stores like Auggie's, get exactly what you want, and know that you won't be disappointed. | | | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Orion72
quote:
Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra
I simply cannot afford to buy even a single case for a new set as it just isn't worth it. I scrimp and save most of the time just so I can try to see if I can perhaps afford figures from older sets in a better manner than risking so much on random pulls. A few boosters from Amazon is good enough for me.
For what you pay for a few boosters from amazon, you can buy singles from eBay stores like Auggie's, get exactly what you want, and know that you won't be disappointed.
What I meant to say that I usually reserve larger sums of money for figures already in existance but are difficult to acquire and I only ordered a few boosters from Amazon because I can afford it and therefore cannot be much of a waste as opposed to a whole case which would swamp me with unnecessary things. From this next set, I'll likely keep almost every figure I draw as I would only have a fairly limited amount of the new figures as single booster buying can keep me in check and I will eventually find used for all of the non-"choice" minis instead of being stuck with 20 "Fiendish Demi-Human Fire Slinger Psion"s or whatever that overwhelm my wants and needs. Also, when it comes to the minis I don't get that I really want, the bloody things(no pun intended) are usually about expensive as the really old things I want. Remember how lot's of people were paying $50 for the Aspect of Tiamat? Now the norm is about $30 or so, give or take, but new figures can cause a lot of uproar because it seems almost everyone wants one. Also, when people pre-order, the list isn't really known except maybe a booster artwork or something so single ordering isn't possible at this point as no one really knows anything and by the time you can order singles, many realize it simply isn't worth ordering the things they want because of the prices being too high to justify on a single figure or two and by then they just want to try their luck with boosters or cases but see the price has significantly risen from the pre-order price so they regret not pre-ordering at least a few boosters. Taking everything said here into account, I believe a few boosters is the best way to go when pre-ordering.
Sorry for the extremely elaborated explanation but it might clear things up. | |
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Orion72
Underboss
1917 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 2:17 PM |
| | Er.... ok. I'm not sure I got all that. Auggie's has had AoT for $23 since the set was released, and that is by far the most expensive mini of the set. I think AoB is in second at $18. By comparison, most Uncommons are around a buck or less, and the Commons are ridiculously dirt cheap. Still, to each his own. I bought a case myself at the local store, plus 8 boosters in various pre-release/sealed tourneys, then filled in the rest with trading and singles purchases. | | | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 5:26 PM |
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Originally posted by Orion72
Er.... ok. I'm not sure I got all that.
That's okay. You don't need to. Calculating almost everything in my mind with matters that provoke elaborated explanations by me for either the positive, negative, and even neutral would seem quite chaotically random if I had visual aids.[:)] | |
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Aries
Warrior
284 Posts
| | 08/04/2006 8:03 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mama Cass
When case distro is good (non-Huge set) you are going to get better numbers on Common and Uncommon with cases.
How did you make out on WOTQ with buy.com?
Actually it was War Drums and I made off like a bandit. What I can remember pulling are 2 Sand giants, 2 Wemic barbarians, 3 Aspect of Hextor, 2 large Bronze Dragons, 3 sacred watchers, 2 warforged barbarians... and those are just the multiples! Though I didn't get a complete set I was very content with what I did get! | |
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