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10/02/2006 2:58 PM  
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10/02/2006 3:02 PM  
oooooooooh Dwarf Sniper

oooooooooh Demonic Gnoll Priestess


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10/02/2006 3:18 PM  
Awesome,finally some stats!

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10/02/2006 4:25 PM  
I like the Gnoll sculpt.  very nice.

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10/02/2006 4:33 PM  
Holy cow ... 6 melee attacks from the Marilith (she would be great with keen critical 18 !!)


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10/02/2006 5:11 PM  
If that is a dwarf with a crossbow, that would be useful. As for the demonic gnoll priestess, the sculpt looks good, but I am disappointed they gave this gnoll an axe. Surely gnolls can wield something other than a battle axe or a bow. So far of all the gnoll sculpts almost all have had an axe or bow, except the lonely gnoll sergeant with a flail. I would really like to see a gnoll dual wielding weapons (their favored class is ranger, after all) and a gnoll armed with a sword, a spear, etc.


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10/02/2006 5:25 PM  
Another gnoll cool...time too trade away the harbs..
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10/02/2006 5:47 PM  
Blasphemy has to be insanely powerful to justify Pit Fiends cost.

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10/02/2006 6:24 PM  
WakeXX noticed the hooves on the gnoll anyone know why...?

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10/02/2006 6:26 PM  
Woohoo .. more pics & stats :drool:

More dwalf love. The dwalf raider doesnt seem that long ago, so meh on seeing another with an xbow.

Ehanced Mobility for Marlith will be very useful. Gonna be a beat down queen.

Glad that the pit fiend can give the other devils a much needed fire immunity.


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10/02/2006 6:39 PM  
Whoa! Does that dwarf have a GUN???

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10/02/2006 7:16 PM  
Cool. It's good to finally see some stats.

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10/02/2006 7:58 PM  
Posted By yack on 10/02/2006 6:24 PM
WakeXX noticed the hooves on the gnoll anyone know why...?

That would be due to her being Demonic ... kind of like a Tiefling Gnoll.  Nice touch.

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10/02/2006 7:59 PM  
I assume the hooves on the gnoll are because it is "demonic", though I'd prefer it didn't have hooves.

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10/02/2006 9:28 PM  

Excellent news indeed.  Nice Gnoll and Dwarf.  Good to see some stats too.



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10/02/2006 9:50 PM  
Anyone Notice +15/+15/+15/+15/+15/+15 Maralith? (10 Magic)

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10/02/2006 10:47 PM  
The only think i hope is that this demonic archer are not a commander too, we have 3 gnoll commanders, but weaker gnoll followers, we need something like this with strong to make some gnoll tematic warband.

marilith with 6 attacks, AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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10/03/2006 12:43 AM  
Posted By Count Dooku on 10/02/2006 6:39 PM
Whoa! Does that dwarf have a GUN???
I'm pretty sure it's a crossbow. Also, note that the caption mentions he has exploding bolts, which suggests that he has a crossbow.

Pretty cool preview. The Marilith could be a pretty mean beatdown machine.

Dwarf Sniper - very cool. I have been wanting to see more crossbows in DDM. Looks like this fella has the Rapid Reload feat. I hope the explosive bolts are fairly powerful, because if not, it will be hard to justify spending 34 points on him.

Demonic Gnoll Priestess - neat, two Gnolls in one set. I can dig it.


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10/03/2006 1:13 AM  
Oh my word, maralith looks like it might actually be good, despite being one of the sets iconic figures. Porcine airborneness and Infernal freezing are coming soon.

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10/03/2006 1:19 AM  
That Dwarf Remembers me the Old Dwarf Gunner from Mage Knight rebellion :S XD
Now LG receive a nice shooter.

Excellent for the gnoll surely it would bring nice spells

Marilith just great but she must take of her clothing

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10/03/2006 3:31 AM  
Posted By dj-chuckles on 10/02/2006 9:50 PM
Anyone Notice +15/+15/+15/+15/+15/+15 Maralith? (10 Magic)

Now all I need to do is figure out how to raise that 10 magic to 15 magic.

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10/03/2006 4:29 AM  
Posted By qillan_dvra on 10/02/2006 3:02 PM
oooooooooh Dwarf Sniper

oooooooooh Demonic Gnoll Priestess

My sentiments exactly!  WOOOT!

And stats.  Now that's awsome!Â




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10/03/2006 5:11 AM  
Dwarf Sniper - kinda crappy sculpt, not a needed figure at all. 3/10
Demonic Gnoll Priestess - Was there something wrong with just a Gnoll Priest? Seriously, why is there some dramatic need to make so many female figures? Is it really some sort of marketing scheme to get more women to play this game? It hasn't worked for 30 years, still isn't going to work. Anyways, awesome sculpt, crappy hooves, totally not needed at all 3/10

Bringing the average for the set down, but still lots of love there

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10/03/2006 5:23 AM  
Posted By Kissmykiester on 10/03/2006 3:31 AM
Posted By dj-chuckles on 10/02/2006 9:50 PM
Anyone Notice +15/+15/+15/+15/+15/+15 Maralith? (10 Magic)

Now all I need to do is figure out how to raise that 10 magic to 15 magic.


Tiefling Blademaster looks like a good companion to the marilith. 6 +15 (15m) attacks or 6 +17 (10m) attacks? hmm

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10/03/2006 5:54 AM  
Posted By DarkWhite on 10/02/2006 7:58 PM
Posted By yack on 10/02/2006 6:24 PM
WakeXX noticed the hooves on the gnoll anyone know why...?

That would be due to her being Demonic ... kind of like a Tiefling Gnoll.  Nice touch.

Yes but the demonic archer didn't have hooves... too bad for her feet.

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10/03/2006 6:02 AM  
Very nice. I like both the new minis there. I tends to agree that is is a crossbow on the dwarf, a funky magic crossbow with a scope but a crossbow none the less.

Nice to see a second gnoll in the set too. And the stats are just gravy.

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10/03/2006 6:38 AM  
Posted By berus316 on 10/03/2006 5:11 AM

Demonic Gnoll Priestess - Was there something wrong with just a Gnoll Priest? Seriously, why is there some dramatic need to make so many female figures? Is it really some sort of marketing scheme to get more women to play this game?

Jonathan Tweet, one of the designer of Chainmail, seems to try to strive for gender equity in NPCs. This leads, oddly to charges he is favoring females or being misogynist

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The designer the RPG for which I was writing the adventure reviewed the manuscript. His comment was, "Why are the player-characters always beating up chicks?" In other words, he was astounded that I had so many female nonplayer-characters as villains. He thought it was misogynistic to have the characters in combat against women so often.

I intended the presence of female villains to demonstrate gender equality. Instead, it was (in the eyes of at least some readers) misogynistic.

When I started playing a gnoll in the Xen'drik Expeditions blackwheel campaign, I looked up some basic facts about Hyenas to see if there were any simple roleplay hooks. Oddly enough its VERY DIFFICULT to tell the difference between male and female hyenas. Because the females resemble males ...

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10/03/2006 6:51 AM  
Well if this gnoll is a rare, makes me think there is a good chance the other one is a common in this set.

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10/03/2006 6:59 AM  
How About Using Gnoll Sgt. ? 1st Attack, 10 Magic, 2nd, 15 Magic, 3rd, 15 Magic....
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10/03/2006 7:22 AM  
I designed a dwarf crossbowman a while back. This one has weak offensive stats. It's hard to tell what it looks like due to angle and that balloon. 10 ranged damaged in LG isn't very common, though.

Two gnolls in this set is kinda nice.

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10/03/2006 7:34 AM  
When I started playing a gnoll in the Xen'drik Expeditions blackwheel campaign, I looked up some basic facts about Hyenas to see if there were any simple roleplay hooks. Oddly enough its VERY DIFFICULT to tell the difference between male and female hyenas. Because the females resemble males ...

I think they could easily leave the gender out of the vaguely human, humanoids in these instances.

They put very defined human style breasts on the priestess, what is really gained by this type of thing?  I seriously don't grasp the need for it.

OH well, merely a pet peeve.




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10/03/2006 7:54 AM  
Posted By Tgt on 10/03/2006 5:23 AM
Posted By Kissmykiester on 10/03/2006 3:31 AM
Posted By dj-chuckles on 10/02/2006 9:50 PM
Anyone Notice +15/+15/+15/+15/+15/+15 Maralith? (10 Magic)

Now all I need to do is figure out how to raise that 10 magic to 15 magic.


Tiefling Blademaster looks like a good companion to the marilith. 6 +15 (15m) attacks or 6 +17 (10m) attacks? hmm


A bit of a red herring: if you win init you don't get the + 5 damage, and if you lose init, any opponent who stays standing next to the maralith deserves to lose. I would go with the gnoll sergeant; she will only attack for 10 on the first hit on each enemy, or actually, if you have one, the DCoL wouldn't be bad; if you can set up a flank you are go. How about:

Maralith 73
DCoL 42
Fang dragon 42
Mounted Drow patrol 27
Small black dragon 11
Timber Wolf 5

You get MW for the two dragons, and loads of damage output. OtOH, constructs would not, unless I am confused, take the 5 extra, or your guys still count as flanking, i forget.

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10/03/2006 7:58 AM  
I love the Gnoll Priestess, very nice. I am unimpressed with the Dwarf though, it looks like a common to me.

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10/03/2006 7:59 AM  
Woot! more gnolls! Guess this one will be uncommon. Dwarf sniper uncommon as well?

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10/03/2006 8:03 AM  
Posted By One_Wing on 10/03/2006 7:54 AM
You get MW for the two dragons, and loads of damage output. OtOH, constructs would not, unless I am confused, take the 5 extra, or your guys still count as flanking, i forget.

Constructs can be Flanked, they're just immune to Sneak Attack. Off the top of my head, the only critters immune to Flanking are the Eye of Gruumsh and Dragon Totem Hero.

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10/03/2006 8:05 AM  
WOW, I'm impressed with the stats.
Marilith will see some use for sure. Just with the right CFX and buffs or even Orc Druids

Can't wait to get my own Pit Fiend and Marilith.


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10/03/2006 9:45 AM  
The Marilith isn't a commander?  I thought they were supposed to be the Generals of the Abyssal army, so being commanders seemed like a natural fit...

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10/03/2006 10:14 AM  
Posted By aron1 on 10/03/2006 9:45 AM
The Marilith isn't a commander?  I thought they were supposed to be the Generals of the Abyssal army, so being commanders seemed like a natural fit...


I was suprised by that too; they are supposed to be cunning stategists, wihich really doesn't come out here. Alos, @ whoever pointed it out, ty for updating my knowledge on constructs.

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10/03/2006 10:23 AM  
Posted By heirodule on 10/03/2006 6:38 AM

Jonathan Tweet, one of the designer of Chainmail, seems to try to strive for gender equity in NPCs. This leads, oddly to charges he is favoring females or being misogynist
Ironic how he's either prefers female sculpts or hates women?

I'm also not entirely sure where the idea that there are too many female minis comes from. Refine Vesivus using the gender filter. Lots more male than female sculpts.

Dwarf Sniper looks great! Sure, it's a "crossbow," but it looks like a gun. Nothing beats Dwarves with Guns. Now we need Dwarves in Bondage Gear with Whips (more Chainmail proxies...yay!).

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10/03/2006 11:00 AM  
Kissmykiester, where do you get those amazing avatars ?

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