Posted By Daniel_Tick on 10/20/2006 12:56 PM
Keep in mind that the developers team changed from WDQ.
IMO, WotDQ kicked some serious butt, and I have my hopes high on Shoe and the rest of the gang.

Posted By PDK on 10/20/2006 1:19 PM
Im confused, the developing team changed before or after WotDQ?  any reason known for why there was a change?Â

Posted By aron1 on 10/20/2006 1:22 PM

Some of the original designers/developers were siphoned off to create Dreamblade.

Posted By IanB on 10/20/2006 1:05 PM
This conspiracy theory doesn't make sense to me. It seems to imply a level of maliciousness that doesn't make any business sense. They don't make sets we don't like on purpose!

Posted By PDK on 10/20/2006 1:26 PM


i guess just another reason not to like that game

well, so far im pretty happy.  better costing dragons, more effective spells and special abilities.  everything you could want to be done lately has been, and it seems generally that most of the complaints about the game have been being listened to

Posted By Chairman7w on 10/20/2006 1:40 PM

Good Gosh, Man.Â

Can't you just take a good thing and enjoy it?

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 1:28 PM

Posted By IanB on 10/20/2006 1:44 PM
Is it *really* all that different than any other set from that standpoint?

Posted By Low Key on 10/20/2006 1:43 PM


Agreed. We get an A+ grade set, and still some people feel to need to complain about it, or start predicting doom and destruction upon us.

Posted By greyhaze on 10/20/2006 1:55 PM

It doesn't suck as much?Â

Compare 5 Devils or Demons in a set to 5 Orcs or 5 Drow or 5 Dwarves in a set.  Feels very different indeed.  They also seem to have a much better spread of races this time around.  We're not being smothered with Gnomes or Warforged, 1-2 of each race that we don't already have multitudes of is excellent.

Bang up job WotC.

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 1:57 PM

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 12:50 PM
Blood Wars has to be the best set so far. But I'm worried.

The quality of this set is great. Good sculpts, good painting, cool use of clear plastic, and lots of sought after creatures. But I'm a huge skeptic, and often question peoples intentions. Is this a ploy to get us to accept the huge price hike?
 

Could be.


Will the following sets continue to be this great (therefore, worth the price hike), or will the following sets go back to being "meh" sets like Aberrations through War Drums?

Guess not, and except for Aberrations those sets weren't that bad. 

I sure hope not. WotC should pay attention to the reaction from this set and aim for this type of quality. Putting that extra effort into making the minis will continue to make the higher booster prices worth it.

I agree wholeheartedly with the notion that they should stay at this level of quality and mini selections in the future sets.

If paint jobs like the Frost Dwarf or useless sculpts like the Wrackspawn keep appearing after the price hike, it's really going to make me question if paying $25 more per case is even worth doing.

I guess I'll never judge a set by a single mini, but I get your sentiment.

There's no way I could pay $115 per case for something like Angelfire. Not that they are bad sets, but most of the newer ones don't provide us with new useful minis when we already have kobolds/dwarves/humans/drow ect from earlier sets. The few useful minis I get that are sprinkled in those sets wouldn't make the higher price worth it.

To each his own, I loved Angelfire as the second best set produced till date (Bloodwar is after seeing this setlist definatley number 1).

Wait a minute, so we can only discuss the stuff if we agree with you?  Doesn't that make you just as intolerant?

LOL!!!

You tossed out the idea, and we're telling you what we think.  I think you were being too negative.Â

That's all.

Posted By Dordledum on 10/20/2006 2:16 PM
Dordledum on 10/20/2006 2:16 PM
I guess I'll never judge a set by a single mini, but I get your sentiment.

To each his own, I loved Angelfire as the second best set produced till date (Bloodwar is after seeing this setlist definatley number 1).

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 12:50 PM
Blood Wars has to be the best set so far. But I'm worried.

The quality of this set is great. Good sculpts, good painting, cool use of clear plastic, and lots of sought after creatures. But I'm a huge skeptic, and often question peoples intentions. Is this a ploy to get us to accept the huge price hike? Will the following sets continue to be this great (therefore, worth the price hike), or will the following sets go back to being "meh" sets like Aberrations through War Drums?

I sure hope not. WotC should pay attention to the reaction from this set and aim for this type of quality. Putting that extra effort into making the minis will continue to make the higher booster prices worth it. If paint jobs like the Frost Dwarf or useless sculpts like the Wrackspawn keep appearing after the price hike, it's really going to make me question if paying $25 more per case is even worth doing.

There's no way I could pay $115 per case for something like Angelfire. Not that they are bad sets, but most of the newer ones don't provide us with new useful minis when we already have kobolds/dwarves/humans/drow ect from earlier sets. The few useful minis I get that are sprinkled in those sets wouldn't make the higher price worth it.

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 2:21 PM


 How can I be intolerant to your views when you didn't post any views about the topic? All you did was tell me to "take a good thing and enjoy it". Who said I wasn't enjoying it? I believe I stated several times how excited I am about the set and how great it is.

Then your post is followed up with a post saying I'm complaining....again with no discussion about the topic. I'm not sure how you're seeing me as being intolerant about your views.

Posted By Chairman7w on 10/20/2006 3:16 PM

Okay, fair enough.

Oryan77 wrote:  "Is this a ploy to get us to accept the huge price hike?"

No, man.  I think that's a real stretch, and I for one, don't choose to try and find negativity in positive things. 

I think this is a dyanamite set and I'll enjoy it.  Period.  I'm not gonna wring my hands worrying about maybe it's an evil plot to foist bad sets on us in the future.  LOL!!!

(Just bein' flippant Oryan77, nothing personal!Â

Posted By Oryan77 on 10/20/2006 3:31 PM

Posted By Kissmykiester on 10/20/2006 9:41 PM
I'll reserve judgement on "Blood War" until either the set is released or the stats are spoiled.

So far, I've seen some really nicely painted minis but then I recall previous paint jobs ie. Frost Dwarf etc. If they're gonna raise the prices on us please let there be no more repeats of that fiasco.

Posted By Ridureyu on 10/20/2006 9:47 PM
I seem to remember "these are the paint masters" being ythe official word on Blood War gallery pics - unless the poster is separate from the website pics.  Do any poster images look dramatically different from the previews?

Posted By lurkinglidda on 09/12/2006 12:53 PM
They're all production figures.

Posted By lurkinglidda on 09/12/2006 1:20 PM
Mind you, I did notice some slight differences here and there.

Some of it has to do with lighting. Ex: the staff on the Ice Devil appears darker in the image due to shadows but it's actually silvery in person. My Vlaakith has more details than you can see in the article.

Some of it has to do with mass production: my succubus could use some lipstick. My Elf Warmage looks cleaner in person than in the pic.

I was actively looking for differences, trying to find an image that was obviously different than the production figure. There wasn't even one image that made me doubt I was seeing the real deal.

Posted By trismegistus on 10/20/2006 10:23 PM
I'm strongly ambivalent about this set. I think the selection of creatures is great, and for the most part (see below), the sculpts look excellent also.

On the other hand, I have a big, big problem with the size creep of many of the large minis. I understand that this isn't an issue that everyone shares, particularly among skirmishers, but I buy these exclusively for rpg purposes, and I want the scale to be at least close throughout the minis that I use in my game, be they DDM or other. Particularly with the price increase, as a consumer, I need the quality to improve (or at the least stay the same). Period.
If a figure isn't to scale with its fellows (forgepriest, centaur, green slaad?), I would literally rather not have it at all.

My 2cp