Oryan77 Sergeant
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:27 PM |
| Posted By Ridureyu on 10/20/2006 5:18 PM
is that Mercykiller a Bugbear?
I thought it was supposed to be a big human guy like the old DiTerlizzi drawing:
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Ridureyu Underboss
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:28 PM |
| http://toyarchive.com/TBBTrashors.html
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Sirohk Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:29 PM |
| Pics! Woot Woot!Â
Way cool!

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Mrs. Rune Warrior
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kyrin Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:39 PM |
| The Mercykiller looks like a Hobgoblin to me. The Mancatcher is cool.
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Sirohk Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:42 PM |
| I got so excited over the pics I forgot a big THANKS!!!!!

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Qucalion of Celene Sergeant
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kyrin Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:43 PM |
| Thanks to Mrs. Rune and the Maker of Mighty Kith for assisting me with this. Now to look at the dang poster myself...
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kyrin Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:44 PM |
| Posted By Qucalion of Celene on 10/20/2006 5:43 PM I think the Blood Wars must have recruited from Sesame Steet.
The Mercykiller looks like Bert, and the Green Slaad looks like Kermit. Both of which have overdosed on steroids.
Now that you mention it, I suddenly got a bad feeling about Ernie...
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gss_000 Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:49 PM |
| | Thank you for posting the pics. It really helps to put pictures to the names. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
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scruffydude7 Underboss
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 Rock Hill, SC
 | | 10/20/2006 5:50 PM |
| The Dragonmark Heir looks like the face was added on as an afterthought. I think I''ll have to lop that head off and replace it with something else.
From the neck down, the fig looks pretty nice. | | Champion of the Revenant Knight of the Elf Duskblade Complete Trades: Oni, Kidkach, Melrune, callidusx3 | |
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kyrin Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:59 PM |
| Posted By scruffydude7 on 10/20/2006 5:50 PM The Dragonmark Heir looks like the face was added on as an afterthought. I think I''ll have to lop that head off and replace it with something else.
From the neck down, the fig looks pretty nice. Great, she and the Marilith can form the Butterface Club.
JIM aka kyrin
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Ridureyu Underboss
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 | | 10/20/2006 5:59 PM |
| Posted By scruffydude7 on 10/20/2006 5:50 PM The Dragonmark Heir looks like the face was added on as an afterthought. I think I''ll have to lop that head off and replace it with something else.
From the neck down, the fig looks pretty nice.
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/20/2006 7:03 PM |
| | Wow. Several of those look great. Thanks for posting the pictures. The Ethereal Marauder, for example, is excellent. The Owlbear is very nice. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6844 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/20/2006 7:08 PM |
| I really don't like how oversized the centaur is compared to previous centaurs. The biggest problem from increasing the base size is they have increased sculpt size on too many figures. I think it's stupid oversizing things.
I really like the viking, though. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/20/2006 7:09 PM |
| | The greenspawn common is much more colorful than the whitespawn common was. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/20/2006 7:12 PM |
| Posted By scruffydude7 on 10/20/2006 5:50 PM The Dragonmark Heir looks like the face was added on as an afterthought. I think I''ll have to lop that head off and replace it with something else.
From the neck down, the fig looks pretty nice. I agree. Too bad the face/head looks so strange. I'm not saying the mini has to be beautiful. They could do an average looking female or not so average and it could have been good. This one looks cartoony.
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6844 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/20/2006 7:25 PM |
| | Is everything being scanned or only those we haven't seen yet? | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Talistran Warrior
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 | | 10/20/2006 7:35 PM |
| Hammerer = crappy figure and crappy common.
$0.10 each is my prediction for pricing in the long term. Deathknell's Giant Frog will be easier to get rid of. 
Most of this set is VERY good. I can't complain too much about a few bad eggs in comparison to some of the other set lists we've seen recently.
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delguidance Sergeant
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 | | 10/20/2006 8:09 PM |
| | This is the best thing all day. Thanks for the coolness | | | |
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kyrin Commander
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 | | 10/20/2006 8:13 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 10/20/2006 7:25 PM Is everything being scanned or only those we haven't seen yet? I'm only scanning the minis that haven't been previewed somewhere -- I think...
JIM aka kyrin
| | My Have/Want List <-|-|->My Trades and References 1 <-|-|->My Trades and References 2 Pronounce "Drow" like "crow"! Viva la Revolution! We Shall Overcome! Vindicated Champion of the Stirge! Vindicated Champion of the Githyanki Knight on Red Dragon!! Vindicated Champion of the Androsphinx! | |
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Dargoth Underboss
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 | | 10/20/2006 8:20 PM |
| | Anyone know where the Hammerers from? Its not in WOTC monster list | | Champion of the Zhentarim: Manshoon, Fzoul and Scyllua Darkhope | |
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sage_raistlin Sergeant
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heirodule Sneak
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 | | 10/20/2006 8:35 PM |
| Posted By Dargoth on 10/20/2006 8:20 PM Anyone know where the Hammerers from? Its not in WOTC monster list From Chainmail, as mentioned, and also stateed out in the MMII
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zoroaster100 Sergeant
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 | | 10/20/2006 9:17 PM |
| | Hammerer automotons, in addition to being statted in the Monster Manual 2, also make an appearance in the first Dungeon Magazine Adventure Path, Shackled City. | | | |
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Ridureyu Underboss
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 | | 10/20/2006 9:26 PM |
| | So, they're more robotic than warforged, and they're not in Eberron? | | Owner of The Original Rust Monsters! DDM: Harbinger: 76/80 Dragoneye: 60/60 Archfiends: 56/60 GoL: 72/72 Aberrations: 60/60 Deathknell: 60/60 Angelfire: 60/60 Underdark: 60/60 War Drums: 60/60 War of the Dragon Queen: 60/60 Blood War: 60/60, Unhallowed: 60/60 Night Below: 60/60 Desert of Desolation: 60/60 Dungeons of Dread: 60/60 Against the Giants: 60/60 Dreamblade: All | |
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Harneloot Sergeant
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 | | 10/20/2006 10:11 PM |
| WOW!
So, we didn't get another demon to even it out, but we did get a slaad and lots of other great stuff!
Bravo WoTC!!!!! | | "What is to give light must endure burning" -Viktor Frankl
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PDK Sneak
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 | | 10/20/2006 11:01 PM |
| | great set, great pics, and as far as ive seen, great stats.  just one question, why the hammerer? what in gods name made people say, yeah, this is a good idea? | | Champion of Manshoon of the Zhentarim addict of orcs, ogres, and anything that smashes | |
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Dargoth Underboss
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 | | 10/20/2006 11:30 PM |
| Posted By heirodule on 10/20/2006 8:35 PM Posted By Dargoth on 10/20/2006 8:20 PM Anyone know where the Hammerers from? Its not in WOTC monster list From Chainmail, as mentioned, and also stateed out in the MMII Ok thanks
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Dordledum Commander
 3463 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 10/21/2006 12:48 AM |
| A short RPG-ers point of view:
Elf Dragonkith - Great figure for an Elven elite warrior or king going to war. Love the variety WotC, kind of remembers me of the Dragoneye Thayan Knight.
Half-Orc Spy - Best looking Half-Orc to date. makes me want to make an Half-Orc Rogueish PC.
Hammerer - Cute low level common. Was hesitant at first but love the interpretation of the MM2 artwork they did.
Air Genasi Swashbuckler - Wow, very impresive sculpt. Hope they will do earth and water soon.
Centaur War Hulk - Bit out of proportion with the older centaurs. Love the pose and concept, but would have preferred a lance instead of the glaive/halberd he's wielding. Nice, but could have been better.
Hero of Valhalla - Aye, Odin owns ye all! Drommefanger! Great stuff, looks like an awesome common. WotDQ gave us the common pirate, BW gives us a common viking, what's next?
Medium Copper Dragon - Love the fact that he's uncommon . great to see the complete sculpt. very nice!
Shadowdancer - She's falling! Another rogue sculpt to add to the guilds. Not overly impressed.
Dragonmark Heir of Deneith -Â Looks like crap, trade fodder.
Acheron Goblin - Common Goblin, what's not to like?
Greenspawn Sneak - Looks good, one of the best Dragonspawn to date. Great detail on the head. Could be some elite warrior from the poison dusk lizardfolk clan as well. Much better than I expected.
Karsite Fighter - Could be used as some blackguard, otherwise its just another Sword and shield human.
Mercykiller - Has to be a hobgoblin, right? Can't think of anything else. Looks kind of cartoonish, but have to see it in hand.
Souknife Infiltrator - Ok, I get that WotC wants to bring out clear plastic psiblades, but this mini is way to niche-specific to bring out a second one. We allready have a Xeph Souknife!
Ethereal Marauder -Â Impressive, WotC couldn't have done a better job here!
Green Slaad -Â Bit of a weird facial expression, but it's an uncommon slaad! No complaints here.
Howler - Yet another chase rare, awesome!
Owlbear Rager - After years of D&D I still think the Owlbear concept is ridiculous, but this rager is a great representation of one nevertheless. I'll take only one anyway.
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Ridureyu Underboss
 1622 Posts




 | | 10/21/2006 2:06 AM |
| Some thoughts:
Elf Dragonkith - A very unique, creative design for a figure. This could be a good BBEG, or a high-level elf, or just a cool king-ish type.
Half-Orc Spy - This guy and the halfling sneak make a matched pair.
Hammerer - Wasn't one of these in Mage Knight? Steam Golem?
Air Genasi Swashbuckler - This figure is really, really incredible. I mean, wow, that's a miniature you can show "lay people" to justify your hobby.
Centaur War Hulk - The first centaur was bland, the second was goofy, and this guy has too much armor. Aside from that, I think he looks good.
Hero of Valhalla - THAT'S a common!?!?? It looks more complex than the Trog barbarian or Witchknife! THAT is a common? Anyway, pirates versus vikings in similar numbers will be fun.
Medium Copper Dragon - Holy crap good.
Shadowdancer - Decent, not a bad figure, but not the best, either. I like the variety in pose, and it's a core prc, but it doesn't do much for me.
Dragonmark Heir of Deneith -Â I have no opinion. She's bland, so her stats will change the game.
Acheron Goblin - I love hordes of common goblins. I love this guy.
Greenspawn Sneak - Would make a great Poison Dusk proxy if we didn't already have one.
Karsite Fighter - Good BBEG or high-level PC fodder.
Mercykiller - I like his cartoonish look, actually. it's nicely old school, and better than the Harmonium Guard.
Souknife Infiltrator - Whats-her-name from War Drums will like having a friend with Psionics, and... oh, dang. Wrong faction.
Mezzoloth - I want one. I so want one. Cockroachy goodness!
Ethereal Marauder - I have wanted one of these figures since I got into miniatures. it is exactly what I wanted.
Green Slaad - Another figure I really like - I have no trouble with the facial expression, and I think it fits the Slaad perfectly. I had expected him to be skinnier and armored, but this is actually better.
Howler - This is more of a holy crap good than the dragon. It just looks so awesome! Totally different form the source art, but I was worried about those spines, anyway. I wonder what it looks like from the front.
Owlbear Rager - Remember the Ducksnake in OotS? Owlbears are inherently similar, but getting a new one was on the top of my list. I wish it were uncommon. I wish it were uncommon. I wish it were uncommon. | | Owner of The Original Rust Monsters! DDM: Harbinger: 76/80 Dragoneye: 60/60 Archfiends: 56/60 GoL: 72/72 Aberrations: 60/60 Deathknell: 60/60 Angelfire: 60/60 Underdark: 60/60 War Drums: 60/60 War of the Dragon Queen: 60/60 Blood War: 60/60, Unhallowed: 60/60 Night Below: 60/60 Desert of Desolation: 60/60 Dungeons of Dread: 60/60 Against the Giants: 60/60 Dreamblade: All | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3939 Posts



 USA
 | | 10/21/2006 5:18 AM |
| My $0.02 worth.Â
Elf Dragonkith - Nice looking mini, but a rare? I wonder what the stats will be.Â
Half Orc Spy - Interesting for LG. As an Uncommon it might be useful.Â
Hammerer - Another construct, as if LG does not have enough of them. Looks like an ugly dwarf in funky armor. Probably not too useful common. May be ok in Sealed event.Â
Air Genasi Swashbuckler - Now heres a mini I like. Very cool sculpt. I hope his stats are usable.Â
Centaur War Hulk - Woot, another Centaur, and a Rare to boot. I'm happy with this one. He might be a good compliment to the Wemec Barbarian.Â
Hero of Valhalla - Now thats a nice looking Viking! Me like this one for a common in CG.Â
Medium Copper Dragon - Nice looking medium dragon.Â
Shadowdancer - meh uncommon. Not sure what she'll bring to the table for CG.Â
Dragonmark Heir of Deneith - An uncommon female fighter. Not too bad.Â
Acheron Goblin - More Common Goblins. As if there were not enough. Not too bad a sculpt though.Â
Greenspawn Sneak - Another spawn. Looks like a nice mini. Probably only useful in spawn warbands. Needs to play with Tiamat.Â
Karsite Fighter - Me like this uncommon. I hope his skirmish stats are useful.Â
Mercykiller - Nice looking uncommon. Looks like another orc of some sort.Â
Mezzoloth - Woot woot. Here's one I've been waiting for. I like and its an uncommon. A nicce addition to LE. I hope its stats make it skirmish playable.Â
Soulknife Infiltrator - A meh uncommon.Â
Ethereal Marauder - Looks and sounds alot like naother mini from a previous set, but I just cannot put my hands on what one. Another LE uncommon, well thats ok by me.Â
Green Slaad - Freeking yea! A very nice surprise. Looks like Kermit on steroid rage, but I like this one. I just hope he's not another Red Slaad stat wise (ie useless).Â
Howler - Very nice Rare addition to CE. Here's one I hope is really skirmish playable.Â
Owlbear Rager - Finally another Owlbear. I like the sculpt, a very nice large. For a rare I hope he is pretty tough.Â

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Orion72 Underboss
 1917 Posts



 | | 10/21/2006 5:40 AM |
| Elf Dragonkith -Â Expect stats to suck as bad as the Dragonborn, but another friend for Bahamut, yay!Â
Half Orc Spy -Â LG has the best Undead, best titans, best ranged piece, let's give 'em the best rogue too.Â
Hammerer -Â YAY! Fie on all who naysay. It's another Chainmail critter. Make 'em all!Â
Air Genasi Swashbuckler - Elf Swashbuckler? Gathering dust. Fire Genasi? Gathering dust. My hopes for this one? I hope the dust won't gather in hard-to-reach places. Pretty though.Â
Centaur War Hulk -Â YAY! Third try at making a useful Centaur, don't blow it!Â
Hero of Valhalla - Pirates, now Vikings... next must be a Common Ninja Â
Shadowdancer -Â I am seriously going to paint her up as Psylocke, Crimson Dawn tattoo and all.Â
Dragonmark Heir of Deneith - Don't ask her to show you her dragonmark, she'll slap you. Or stab you.Â
Acheron Goblin -Â Type: Outsider - Goblin? Will Soldier of Bytopia be Type: Outsider - Gnome?Â
Greenspawn Sneak - Less repulsive than previous spawn, but it's Small Â
Karsite Fighter - Heals whenever SR blocks a spell? Elminster and Archmage won't care.Â
Mercykiller - Our 4th Planescape Factioneer. Maybe an LE non-titan that does over 15 dmg?Â
Mezzoloth -Â No surfboard? More bug demons, meh.Â
Soulknife Infiltrator -Â Yay! Let's hope that attack is worth using Inspired Loo to boost.Â
Ethereal Marauder - A blue mouth on legs. I could've repainted a Xorn or Abyssal Maw for that.Â
Green Slaad - Goofy.
Howler -Â Bad puppy! Sonic attacks? Or mind control?
Owlbear Rager - Our Harbinger resculpt. I fully expect a Displacer Beast and Umber Hulk soon. | | | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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zqk Sneak
 81 Posts




 | | 10/21/2006 6:23 AM |
| | Fenris' mini is in the Unhallowed, Thrall of Blackrazor | | | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3939 Posts



 USA
 | | 10/21/2006 6:29 AM |
| Posted By zqk on 10/21/2006 6:23 AM Fenris' mini is in the Unhallowed, Thrall of Blackrazor
Correct.Â
I have been constantly thinking his mini is supposed to be in this set.Â

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driordan Sneak
 52 Posts




 | | 10/21/2006 6:45 AM |
| Posted By Sirohk on 10/21/2006 5:18 AM
[snip] Centaur War Hulk - Woot, another Centaur, and a Rare to boot. [/snip]
Strange. It seems to me that one ought to be unhappy that a Woot-worthy miniature is rare . . .
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