Posted By Ridureyu on 10/31/2006 8:44 PM
It's because there's really nothing else "wrong" with this set.

Posted By Ridureyu on 10/31/2006 8:44 PM
It's because there's really nothing else "wrong" with this set.

Posted By Ridureyu on 11/01/2006 10:00 AM
And I'm sure it will be shouted from the rooftops.

Posted By jgsugden on 11/01/2006 12:22 PM
However - this is a guy that works in a forge all day. He is bound to have a lot of upepr body strength. I'm not too displeased... the size differential is still in the realm of reasonable.

Posted By MerricB on 11/01/2006 7:01 PM
It's interesting when you look at stats like that. "Power creep!" is the initial cry. Then you sit back and think. Are you using Fire Giants in your warbands? Is the reason that you're not because they're not worth their points? Cheers!

Posted By MerricB on 11/01/2006 7:01 PM
It's interesting when you look at stats like that. "Power creep!" is the initial cry. Then you sit back and think. Are you using Fire Giants in your warbands? Is the reason that you're not because they're not worth their points? Cheers!

Posted By SYB on 10/31/2006 8:41 PM
Why is it that everyone seems to think that creatures other than humans are not allowed to have variation. I have met a number of people who are at least a head taller than me and weigh twice as much as I do (I weigh ~150 and I am 5'11"). Standard human beings vary from about 4'9" to 7'6". This is a nearly three foot variance (which is a lot on a creature that averages at about 5'7").

Just because every fire giant (or hobgoblin or orc or whatever) isn't EXACTLY the same build, doesn't mean it is wrong. There just seems to be a lot of complaining for no good reason.

-SYB

Posted By pauler81 on 11/02/2006 6:12 AM

I must agree w/ this post. Who's to say that a Fire Giant can't vary in size. Why must one assume that they're all one size? Honestly I could care less about their size. As long your having fun why does it matter?

Posted By Arandae on 11/02/2006 6:40 AM

I don't think anyone is saying that a fire giant can't vary in size at all. The issue is more how much can it vary before it becomes a problem.

The 'fun' issue is interesting here. If the sculptors insist on filling the entire base, and then having some overhang as well (as in the case of the Maug and the Forgepriest) then it isn't a large mini any more - it's a huge mini on a large base.

That issue matters to me, as I use the minis for RPG. I'm not having fun with the mini if I want to put out a large giant, and the mini I try to put into a battle scene won't even fit in the room.

Posted By lurkinglidda on 11/02/2006 12:33 PM
I have a confession:

I just realized it isn't a frogpriest.

D'oh!

Posted By Oryan77 on 11/02/2006 12:56 PM
Didn't you ever question anyone about why that mini didn't have any sculpting that looked frog related? Or were you wondering why it was such a big Fire Giant like the rest of us?

Posted By lurkinglidda on 11/02/2006 1:10 PM
I'm still a noob @ D&D so there are some things I just don't question figuring I'll "get it" eventually. The green salad looks like a frog, so a frogpriest wasn't too much of a stretch.

Posted By greyhaze on 11/02/2006 12:47 PM
War Hulk is just a class, not a race type. It's essentially still just a centaur (like the Ogre War Hulk is still just an Ogre).

Posted By greyhaze on 11/02/2006 12:47 PM
War Hulk is just a class, not a race type. It's essentially still just a centaur (like the Ogre War Hulk is still just an Ogre).

Posted By Anaxagoras on 11/02/2006 1:14 PM
I'm sorry, but that's not entirely accurate.

All kinds of classes affect the original character in physical ways-War Hulk gives you a bonus to your strength (+2) at EVERY LEVEL.  That certainly could be seen as a supernatural transformation.

Posted By Anaxagoras on 11/02/2006 1:14 PM
I'm sorry, but that's not entirely accurate.

All kinds of classes affect the original character in physical ways-War Hulk gives you a bonus to your strength (+2) at EVERY LEVEL.  That certainly could be seen as a supernatural transformation.

Posted By Ryoga on 10/30/2006 7:58 AM
Maybe I can pull this unit quickly by Box Weight......... How many weight???

Posted By lurkinglidda on 11/02/2006 12:33 PM
I have a confession:

I just realized it isn't a frogpriest.

D'oh!

Posted By elder_basilisk on 11/05/2006 2:07 PM
The problem is that D&D in general has a lot of races that are separated from humans primarily by their size.

If you made a mini of a human who was 4'9" in scale, people would wonder if he was supposed to be a halfling or a dwarf--races that look like humans only smaller. If you made a mini of a Shaquille O'neill sized human, he would probably end up as an ogre or a giant. If you made a mini of me (about 5'5" and 180lb when I was fit), I would probably be taken for a dwarf.

If you start screwing with the scale and, particularly for the non-humans that a primarily distinguised from each other by their size, you're going to end up with them being indistinguishable from each other.