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MuscledDestroyer
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Prospect Park, Pa

11/13/2006 8:21 PM
Titan, Hydra. The next Icon should be Tarrasque.

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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude

11/13/2006 10:10 PM
Advanced versions of Frost, Fire, and Hill Giants. Huge Dragons of course. I would prefer the Titan to be of iconic size, meaning gargantuan or colossal, but I know that it probably wouldn't sell as well as a dragon or even a Tarrasque.

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AnarionZelle
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11/13/2006 10:56 PM
My others would be: Hydra Remorhaz Catoblepas Tendriculos

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Dordledum
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3463 Posts

Netherlands

11/14/2006 3:25 AM
remorhaaz indeed!

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Arandae
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713 Posts

11/14/2006 3:35 AM
Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 5:54 PM I would be fine with even the huge-only packs or some such, but man, the huge sets really blow. I somewhat disagree they are important for RPG. The iconic dragons would be fine and more large frosties would mean I wouldn't have to always use the Tundra Scouts. Plus, I get REALLY tired of the endless whining about "what's in MY prescious huge slot!??!?!?!?! I don't agree with that. War of the Dragon Queen was terrible, but Giants of Legend was fantastic. For me, it isn't the 'huge' element that's the problem - it's set selection. I think it is perfectly feasible to come up with a set list that makes a Huge set work well. As for the "whining" bit, people will always find something to whine about... Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 4:54 PM NO MORE HUGE SETS! HUGE SETS SUCK RANCID MONKEY PARTS! THE DISTRIBUTION IS SCREWY, THEY"RE MORE EXPENSIVE, ... See what I mean? Now, it looks like you don't care about getting huges, because you aren't using them in RPG (???). I don't care about distribution problems, because I buy singles not boosters/cases. I guess we will always see the issues that don't concern us overly as whining on the part of others. Posted By IanB on 11/13/2006 5:42 PM Well, I don't really give a crap if we don't get huge sets as long as we still get huge minis somehow. They're extremely important for RPG purposes. Hear hear! Huges are important in RPG. I can't remember playing a (published) campaign without huge creatures in it. Huge creatures also appear on Summon Monster tables. I think huge minis are essential, and that it would be a real shame for RPGers if WotC decided to stop making them.

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IanB
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3112 Posts

11/14/2006 11:27 AM
Posted By Thenameless on 11/13/2006 10:10 PM Advanced versions of Frost, Fire, and Hill Giants. Huge Dragons of course. I would prefer the Titan to be of iconic size, meaning gargantuan or colossal, but I know that it probably wouldn't sell as well as a dragon or even a Tarrasque. Giants don't advance by HD, they advance by character class, so they never bump up to Huge...

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Mjollnir
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1500 Posts

Canary Islands - Spain

11/14/2006 1:38 PM
Posted By Arandae on 11/14/2006 3:35 AM Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 5:54 PM I would be fine with even the huge-only packs or some such, but man, the huge sets really blow. I somewhat disagree they are important for RPG. The iconic dragons would be fine and more large frosties would mean I wouldn't have to always use the Tundra Scouts. Plus, I get REALLY tired of the endless whining about "what's in MY prescious huge slot!??!?!?!?! I don't agree with that. War of the Dragon Queen was terrible, but Giants of Legend was fantastic. For me, it isn't the 'huge' element that's the problem - it's set selection. I think it is perfectly feasible to come up with a set list that makes a Huge set work well. As for the "whining" bit, people will always find something to whine about... Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 4:54 PM NO MORE HUGE SETS! HUGE SETS SUCK RANCID MONKEY PARTS! THE DISTRIBUTION IS SCREWY, THEY"RE MORE EXPENSIVE, ... See what I mean? Now, it looks like you don't care about getting huges, because you aren't using them in RPG (???). I don't care about distribution problems, because I buy singles not boosters/cases. I guess we will always see the issues that don't concern us overly as whining on the part of others. Posted By IanB on 11/13/2006 5:42 PM Well, I don't really give a crap if we don't get huge sets as long as we still get huge minis somehow. They're extremely important for RPG purposes. Hear hear! Huges are important in RPG. I can't remember playing a (published) campaign without huge creatures in it. Huge creatures also appear on Summon Monster tables. I think huge minis are essential, and that it would be a real shame for RPGers if WotC decided to stop making them. I'm with Arandae in this. We need Huge minis. I have use for all my huge minis in rpg. I even believe they are almost absolutely necessary. In most campaigns you need them. I have used Cloud Giants, Glabrezu, Huge Dragons, Bulettes, Fomorian Giants, Huge Elementals, Huge Dracolich, Huge Vermin, Purple Worms (I know they're Gargantuan, but Wizards have sculpted them half-size to Huge) and Behir quite often. The rest of the huge minis have had at least one use in other adventures. I can tell you I will use given the chance all the minis in the poll and nearly all the minis our friends from the forum have mentioned. Maybe we would make another distribution, but we do need Huge minis even more frequently than present releases.

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Gunthar
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2938 Posts

11/14/2006 3:21 PM
Posted By Arandae on 11/14/2006 3:35 AM Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 5:54 PM I would be fine with even the huge-only packs or some such, but man, the huge sets really blow. I somewhat disagree they are important for RPG. The iconic dragons would be fine and more large frosties would mean I wouldn't have to always use the Tundra Scouts. Plus, I get REALLY tired of the endless whining about "what's in MY prescious huge slot!??!?!?!?! I don't agree with that. War of the Dragon Queen was terrible, but Giants of Legend was fantastic. For me, it isn't the 'huge' element that's the problem - it's set selection. I think it is perfectly feasible to come up with a set list that makes a Huge set work well. As for the "whining" bit, people will always find something to whine about... Posted By Gunthar on 11/13/2006 4:54 PM NO MORE HUGE SETS! HUGE SETS SUCK RANCID MONKEY PARTS! THE DISTRIBUTION IS SCREWY, THEY"RE MORE EXPENSIVE, ... See what I mean? Now, it looks like you don't care about getting huges, because you aren't using them in RPG (???). I don't care about distribution problems, because I buy singles not boosters/cases. I guess we will always see the issues that don't concern us overly as whining on the part of others. Posted By IanB on 11/13/2006 5:42 PM Well, I don't really give a crap if we don't get huge sets as long as we still get huge minis somehow. They're extremely important for RPG purposes. Hear hear! Huges are important in RPG. I can't remember playing a (published) campaign without huge creatures in it. Huge creatures also appear on Summon Monster tables. I think huge minis are essential, and that it would be a real shame for RPGers if WotC decided to stop making them. I thought Brits were supposed to get dry subtlties in humor because so much of it from there is like that, but you seemed to have missed the boat. For the record, I like most of the minis that have come IN the huge sets, but the problems they create are another matter. I had no problem with Barney, etc. In fact, the only one I really disliked was the DB Pack Lord (and the pornstache on the Cloud Giant). Distribution and mini selection really won't make very many people happy. Add in the extra cost, etc. and I really don't think they are worth the hassle. And I also don't really want them to stop making them, I just don't think the standard system is the right one for it. I'm also not some anal loser who needs exact representations of everything in the game to enjoy it.

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Mjollnir
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1500 Posts

Canary Islands - Spain

11/14/2006 3:57 PM
I'm also not some anal loser who needs exact representations of everything in the game to enjoy it. There's no need for such comments, Gunthar. All you need is to explain yourself much better from the very begininning. Your message was in capital and bold letters and that clearly shows your anger. If problem is distribution, just comment it. If many think like you we might get huges in other ways and not necessarily in our present sets, but that is the only way we have now and it's better than nothing. I wish (and I believe many of us do) we could get them cheaper and much more than one per booster or even we could buy them apiece. Who knows? Maybe things change with time.

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Benimoto
Underboss

1125 Posts

11/14/2006 6:27 PM
My "others" would be the Hydra and the Tendriculous. Those are all fairly low-CR and frequently encountered by 6-8th level groups, which is where a lot of campaigns play.

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yack
Commander

3321 Posts

Gatineau Canada

11/14/2006 7:09 PM
I'm all for huges... I need them for RPG. I like the list thats in the poll... just add a Tendriculos and yeah!

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Mr_Smash
Skirmisher

4 Posts

11/14/2006 11:25 PM
I swear, if they put a NIGHTMARE BEAST in the next huge set, I'd have two simultaneous heart attacks. It would be ok though, since I have a near-mint, large ape heart that's just inching to be implanted. Just look at the guy! https://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_94.jpg

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Arandae
Sergeant

713 Posts

11/15/2006 1:57 AM
Posted By Gunthar on 11/14/2006 3:21 PM I thought Brits were supposed to get dry subtlties in humor because so much of it from there is like that, but you seemed to have missed the boat. For the record, I like most of the minis that have come IN the huge sets, but the problems they create are another matter. I had no problem with Barney, etc. In fact, the only one I really disliked was the DB Pack Lord (and the pornstache on the Cloud Giant). Distribution and mini selection really won't make very many people happy. Add in the extra cost, etc. and I really don't think they are worth the hassle. And I also don't really want them to stop making them, I just don't think the standard system is the right one for it. I'm also not some anal loser who needs exact representations of everything in the game to enjoy it. I really don't want to escalate this into some bigger argument, but I'm still unclear as to what you think I have missed. Yes, I could see that your post was some sort of parody (the 'rancid monkey parts' was a sufficient clue, but actually I think it was far too aggressive to be considered 'dry' ). But it was still an example of people (including you) finding other issues to complain about - so it seemed to do the job. And there do actually seem to be issues concerning huge sets that you are unhappy with (my emphasis above). So I didn't think I was misquoting you as having issues with huge sets - you have (on this and other occasions) said you are unhappy with some issues concerning the huge sets produced, citing reasons which happen to be of no importance to me (price included). So I still think I correctly got on the boat and made a valid point that did not misquote you. Then again, perhaps this obviously dumb Brit is still missing something...

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sam500
Sergeant

419 Posts

Berkeley, CA

11/15/2006 3:28 AM
any core monsters that are NOT dragons would make me happy

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Nobody Important
Sergeant

718 Posts

11/15/2006 10:54 AM
Looking at the poll results I think someone allowed too many picks from the choices. Selecting over half doesn't really show the most desirable ones if you try using all your selections.

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1196 Posts

Rock Hill, SC

11/15/2006 7:41 PM
My Other: Hydra

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Warlord
Warlord

6844 Posts

West Valley City, Utah

11/16/2006 1:15 AM
Is a Roc huge? Edit: No, I just checked and it's gargantuan. I was thinking that would have made a good uncommon in a huge set. Oh, well.

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Mjollnir
Underboss

1500 Posts

Canary Islands - Spain

11/16/2006 10:47 AM
Posted By Nobody Important on 11/15/2006 10:54 AM Looking at the poll results I think someone allowed too many picks from the choices. Selecting over half doesn't really show the most desirable ones if you try using all your selections. I proposed up to 12, considering 12 is the number of Huge minis the sets so far have included apiece.

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Dordledum
Commander

3463 Posts

Netherlands

11/17/2006 1:28 AM
We need huges for RPG, I don't really care how they are brought to us, as long as the CORE MM critters are produced sometime: Dragons, Demons, Devils, Giants, Remorhaaz, Hydra's, we need those for our games! Rather sooner than later. Oh and add some Huge Yugoloth as well (just for fun), D.

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Mjollnir
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1500 Posts

Canary Islands - Spain

11/19/2006 6:23 AM
So Nalfeshnee is most voted option, that's fine! It's a the huge mini I most wish along with the Aboleth which is the third (with the Blue Dragon you chose). I must admit I was amazingly surprised with the second one, Air Elemental. I thought The Earth one was going to be first in our hearts (mine included ). White and Green Dragons were supposed to be near the first ones as well (I wonder where is dariustad lately ). Then we have the Water Elemental and the Bebilith (another powerful tanar'ri) and then the optionOther with Hydra and Remorhaz as most desirable minis. Silver Dragon and Titan come in afterwards, then the Retriever (Bebilith is another spider-like demon after all), then the rest of metallic dragons and finally the Athach.

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Currently in Iraq (wishin i was home)

11/20/2006 12:13 AM
A new icon Mini could be the Hydra, but with removable heads and stat cards for all the variations. plus it would be fun just to remove the necks

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silenttimo
Skirmisher

22 Posts

11/20/2006 4:03 AM
I voted for : - Bebilith, retriever, nafelshnee, - aboleth, - huge elementals (water, earth, air), - huge blue & green dragons, - and I second 3 other monsters that are among "others" : Hydra / Remorhaz / Black pudding (it's time to have a pudding for next X-mas !!)

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