Username Warlord
 5692 Posts




 | | 01/10/2007 2:52 PM |
| Thanks to the Runes!
he Unhallowed expansion to the D&D Miniatures Game
includes a trio of miniatures that are elemental in nature, even if
only one of them is an actual elemental. First up, a pair of mephits,
followed by an old Chainmail redux.Air Mephit and Fire Mephit Mephits have been on various wish lists for a while now, for a variety of reasons. They are in the Monster Manual (of course, so is the tojanida). They are on the summon monster list. They hearken back to the old days of 1st Edition D&D, 2nd Edition D&D, or the Planescape setting.
They are great low-CR creatures to use in any elemental-themed
adventure, because they have more personality than standard elementals.
They also are some of the first creatures PCs might encounter that have
flight, damage reduction, fast healing, and a breath weapon! Each of
those abilities alone can prove challenging for a group of low-level
adventurers, but these creatures have all four.
We initially designed the mephits as a quartet of creatures with the idea of sliding them into the Blood War set.
We wanted the four mephits to be comparable with each other and also
share a game mechanic that would set them apart. As Uncommon or maybe
Common miniatures, we didn't want a long list of abilities for each of
them, so we opted instead to make the focus of a mephit mini be that
single mechanic. The mephits are great examples of creating new
abilities for a creature to reflect the flavor of the D&D rules without translating them directly. We
chose the breath weapon be that shared ability, then made it more
distinctive by using a rider effect on the breath weapon in addition to
the regular damage. The same rider effect appears on the mephit's melee
attack. The Air Mephit, for example, uses his breath weapon to push
foes around with a gust of wind. The Fire Mephit might set a creature
on fire, causing it to take more fire damage the following round. With
super-fast fly speeds and two uses of a 10-damage breath cone, these
mephits can be deadly to fodder units, though they may just serve to
annoy stronger units.
We also gave a different defensive ability to each of these two
mephits, abilities that create a contrasting distinction between the
mephit types. The Air Mephit has Conceal 6, and the Fire Mephit has
Fire Healing 5. Each mephit has only 15 hit points, so it is expected
that each ability might come into play only once per game (per mephit).
It's enough to maybe keep your 13-point figure on the board an extra
round. Large Ice Elemental It's
Large, it's made of ice, and it walks around smashing things. This guy
was done as a metal miniature in the not-so-distant past as part of theChainmail miniatures game. He also appeared in Manual of the Planes.
You might notice that he's lost the "para" from his name, becoming
simply the Ice Elemental. Purists everywhere are crying out and then
realizing how annoying it is to say "paraelemental."
The Ice Elemental is one of the first minis to explore the concept
of battlefield manipulation. An earlier example is the Elemental Wall
from War Drums with its ability to directly change the terrain
on the map. We can do this in a variety of ways, such as creating
walls, making areas of terrain become difficult, or causing damage to
creatures that move through specific squares. For the most part, we've
determined that these sorts of abilities are Lawful in nature. The
typically faster Chaotic factions instead rely on their speed or ranged
abilities to circumvent terrain obstacles. In this case, the Ice Elemental has an ability called Ice Spikes,
which deals 5 cold damage to any nonflying creature that moves into an
adjacent square. It's pretty simple, not really earth-shattering, but
it allows the Ice Elemental to control a significant part of the
battlefield, especially with his Large base size and Melee Reach 2. He
rounds out with a pair of attacks that deal up to 15 damage along with
DR 5 and Cold Healing 10. A mere 28 points will add all of that to your
Lawful warband. Next week, we'll look at something completely different.
| | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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Hejas Sergeant
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 Poland
 | | 01/10/2007 3:10 PM |
| | Nice! Can't wait to see the pics. | | ~Polish~DDM~Elite~ ;-)
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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 Adelaide
 | | 01/10/2007 3:32 PM |
| | Mephits sound funky. I wonder if all four are in UH and only those two were previewed. | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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 jgsugden Commander
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 Walnut Creek, CA
 | | 01/10/2007 3:41 PM |
| Well, the mephits do nto sound too promising for skirmish. 15 points for 15 hit points is a bad exchange... 1 hit will likely kill them. If they actually have 4 of these guys in the expansion, and they all have these costing issues, and all fit in the same distribution slot, we may have some issues in limited in terms of productivitiy from that slot. I hope all4 come from the same common slot... That is more manageable than having all 4 come from the same uncommon slot.
The ice PARAelemental is interesting. As a lawful creature, the AB should be decent... and with 15 damage, melee reach 2, 28 point cost, and an autodamage aspect, it could be very intriguing...Â
Hypothetical Stats (based upon Manual of Planes and Preview):
Ice (Para)Elemental LE Cost 28 HP 60 Level 6 Move 6 Type Large Elemental
Attack +10/+5 (10 + 5 cold) (could be +10/+10 if they update the concept to fit the 3.5 elementals)
Melee Reach 2 Cold Healing 10 DR 5 Double Damage from Fire Ice Shards
That could be a great partner with a Chraal... | | Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06) Please note: The use of the indicates an attempt at humor ... often a bad attempt. BAD EBAY SELLERS LIST (CLICK HERE): AVOID AT ALL COSTS
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Harneloot Sergeant
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 | | 01/10/2007 3:45 PM |
| I too see no reason to discard PARA from the title, nor do I find it difficult to say/pronounce.
Paraelementals they are, and shall remain!!!!!!! | | "What is to give light must endure burning" -Viktor Frankl
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
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 SLC, UT
 | | 01/10/2007 4:15 PM |
| Woohoo! Does this mean I can break out my army of Chainmail Ice Paraelementals? ? ?  | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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yack Commander
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 Gatineau Canada
 | | 01/10/2007 4:24 PM |
| Wicked can't wait for the pics!!!!! I really wanted a steam mephit but air will work. | | Champion of the Peryton Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer DW: Duergar Priest RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
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PaSquall Underboss
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 | | 01/10/2007 4:33 PM |
| Did I read "mephits" ?

And an ice paraelemental is great too, even if I haven't seen the pic yet. | | Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON (Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Auramancer Sneak
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 League City, TX
 | | 01/10/2007 4:39 PM |
| | Running two (or more) ice elementals sounds too easy to abuse. 10 points of free healing for each move next to one another? Unless these guys are super fragile, it sounds obnoxious. | | My Unitarian Jihad Name is: Brother Katana of Sweet Reason.
Get yours.
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Dargoth Underboss
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 | | 01/10/2007 5:08 PM |
| | I wonder if this Shoes attemopt at evening out the universe
P4 started with Pics and no text
P5 starts with text but no pics... | | Champion of the Zhentarim: Manshoon, Fzoul and Scyllua Darkhope | |
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Count Dooku Commander
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 New York
 | | 01/10/2007 5:23 PM |
| Well its about dang time!!!
Mephits! Been wanting those guys since freakin Dragoneye.
Dont like the crack on Tojanidas though...I would actually like them as minis someday. | | Champion of the Skulk Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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gss_000 Commander
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 Baltimore, MD
 | | 01/10/2007 5:42 PM |
| Nice. I almost started ranting about the paraelemental bit, too, but whatever. I can deal. 
Now the unseen pic is called eiger.jpg and the total phrase is "People don't forget you when your name is Jemima." Any guesses? The pic name could refer to:
two mountains, one in Switzerland and the other in Denmark a village in Germany codename for a Microsoft operating system a movie, The Eiger Sanction , a film with Clint Eastwood whose character has a boss named Dragon
Unless it's a syrup elemental, because of the Jemima reference, as in Aunt Jemima. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
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Sirohk Commander
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 USA
 | | 01/10/2007 7:28 PM |
| Very nice.Â
All three sound very useful / interesting. I'm especially liking the Ice Elemental - might be a 'cool" teamate for the Chraal. (pun definately intended )
Can't wait to see the pics.Â

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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 01/10/2007 7:44 PM |
| Thanks.Where did the text come from? I am glad to see two mephits. It sounds like there will be four mephits in this set. If so, that is great. If they're common, even better. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 01/10/2007 8:03 PM |
| | My guess is that the silhouette from last week is the air mephit. I thought of it when I saw the image, but didn't think I was right. Since I didn't think I was right, I didn't mention it. I guess I just thought it would have wings if it were a mephit. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Star Sergeant
 978 Posts



 New Britain, CT
 | | 01/10/2007 8:18 PM |
| Two mephits? Maybe four? ("We initially designed the mephits as a quartet of creatures"). This set is looking a lot better to me today than it did before.
You think there's any chance the mephits are common? | | Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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 Kypdurron Underboss
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 Broken Hill
 | | 01/10/2007 8:31 PM |
| shouldnt we be getting a january and beyond today as well?
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Dargoth Underboss
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 | | 01/10/2007 8:58 PM |
| Posted By Kypdurron on 01/10/2007 8:31 PM shouldnt we be getting a january and beyond today as well?
That depends on which space time continium Matt smiths working in this month
well its that time of the week and the pics still arent up........ | | Champion of the Zhentarim: Manshoon, Fzoul and Scyllua Darkhope | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 01/10/2007 9:12 PM |
| | It is ironic that last week, we ended up getting the photos with no text. This week it is the opposite. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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vanrulzz Commander
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 | | 01/10/2007 9:16 PM |
| i dont see a preview  | | | |
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Jax Sneak
 138 Posts



 Montreal, Canada
 | | 01/10/2007 10:33 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 01/10/2007 5:42 PM Nice. I almost started ranting about the paraelemental bit, too, but whatever. I can deal.  Now the unseen pic is called eiger.jpg and the total phrase is "People don't forget you when your name is Jemima." Any guesses? The pic name could refer to: two mountains, one in Switzerland and the other in Denmark a village in Germany codename for a Microsoft operating system a movie, The Eiger Sanction , a film with Clint Eastwood whose character has a boss named Dragon Unless it's a syrup elemental, because of the Jemima reference, as in Aunt Jemima. The name of the image is eiger.jpg
So, it may be an assassin.. But, i'll wait for the pic...
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6844 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 01/10/2007 10:39 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 01/10/2007 5:42 PM
Unless it's a syrup elemental, because of the Jemima reference, as in Aunt Jemima. Syrup oozes...
| | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 01/10/2007 11:25 PM |
| | What about their rarity? I suppose three of them could be uncommon. | | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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Sirohk Commander
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 USA
 | | 01/11/2007 3:22 AM |
| Posted By jgsugden on 01/10/2007 3:41 PM The ice PARAelemental is interesting. As a lawful creature, the AB should be decent... and with 15 damage, melee reach 2, 28 point cost, and an autodamage aspect, it could be very intriguing... Hypothetical Stats (based upon Manual of Planes and Preview): Ice (Para)Elemental LE Cost 28 HP 60 Level 6 Move 6 Type Large Elemental
Attack +10/+5 (10 + 5 cold) (could be +10/+10 if they update the concept to fit the 3.5 elementals)
Melee Reach 2 Cold Healing 10 DR 5 Double Damage from Fire Ice Shards
That could be a great partner with a Chraal... I do hope the Para Ice Elemental is more than hypothetical level 6.Â
Otherwise, the rest of the hypothetical stats look pretty decent for cost 28 points.Â
Can't wait to seethe real stats.Â
I wonder if the Para Elementals (ie Large Ice Para Elemental) will have the "Requires Commander". The Large Water Elemental did not.Â
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Dordledum Commander
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 Netherlands
 | | 01/11/2007 4:25 AM |
| waiting for pictures before further commenting, but: please, let the mephits be common! (at 13 point-figures)
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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 Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
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 Edinboro PA
 | | 01/11/2007 4:30 AM |
| | Interesting... | | | |
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Cheddar Bearer Warrior
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 | | 01/11/2007 5:10 AM |
| | This is a new take on slow release marketing. Hmm. Not sure that I like it. This way it does make me anticpate the pictures a bit more but still. I like to wake up on a thursday to new pictures of new minis. Still thats just me. | | | |
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Thailfi Sergeant
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 | | 01/11/2007 6:17 AM |
| Two mephits in this set with the possibility of expanding to four make me very happy. Now if we can get a sprite or two, I'll be happy with the selection of little creatures.
Can't wait for the pictures.
As to the preview 6 sneak peek.
The eiger is a mountain in the Alps. What mountain thing do we not have that is not huge?
The quote obviously leads most people to Aunt (ant?). Could there be another formian or a giant ant?
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Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
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 | | 01/11/2007 6:28 AM |
| Mephits make me happy. Just four figures in this set will make me ecstatic (there are of course others that interest me, like a large white dragon, but these are the main ones).
1. Blink Dog 2. Shadows 3. Darkenbeast 4. Raistlin (not likely to happen though)
Skirmish-wise, they seem nerfed, at 13pts they seem well costed with all of their abilities, it is hard to tell until we see all of their stats. For RPG this rocks.
Para-elemental, okay sure, why not. | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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Sulaco Underboss
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 | | 01/11/2007 7:10 AM |
| | Next week I'm guessing it'll be an assassin of some kind. The pic name is "eiger" and the alternate text is a quote from the movie The Eiger Sanction, a film about a part-time assassin. | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
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Dordledum Commander
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 Netherlands
 | | 01/11/2007 7:13 AM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 01/11/2007 7:10 AM Next week I'm guessing it'll be an assassin of some kind. The pic name is "eiger" and the alternate text is a quote from the movie The Eiger Sanction, a film about a part-time assassin. spot on!
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Wild Yapok Sneak
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 | | 01/11/2007 7:44 AM |
| Hurray! Finally my "Champion of Mephits" can change to "Vindicated Champion of Mephits"Â
To top it off, not one, but two.. with the possibility of there being 2 more (although I suspect they will hold the other 2 back for a future set)
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Dordledum Commander
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 Netherlands
 | | 01/11/2007 7:47 AM |
| | Congrats Yapok! | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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gss_000 Commander
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 Baltimore, MD
 | | 01/11/2007 8:38 AM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 01/11/2007 7:10 AM Next week I'm guessing it'll be an assassin of some kind. The pic name is "eiger" and the alternate text is a quote from the movie The Eiger Sanction, a film about a part-time assassin.
Excellent. I thought of the four choices that might be the most likely one, but I had no clue about the connection with the quote. I though the name "eiger" was related to the boss. Good find (or recalll) on the quote.
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stephengroy Underboss
 1440 Posts



 Tempe AZ Beeyotch
 | | 01/11/2007 8:50 AM |
| Found it!
http://www.fleckvieh.de/images/bullen/eiger.jpg | | Waiting for Chainmail Equivalencies since 2005
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Lord_rock Underboss
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 Portland OR
 | | 01/11/2007 8:51 AM |
| It was just posted over at wizards that thier offices are closed today "due to a blizzard". I lived in seattle for some time and we don't have blizzards!
anyway pics won't be fixed until the bliz is over so we can all quit checking every five minutes now.
Ice Paraelemental should be great... lvl boost please but besides that it could be pretty potent. | | Rock Bottom Pricing: Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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Thousandsofminis Warrior
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 | | 01/11/2007 9:13 AM |
| Perhaps the assassin is an Invisible Stalker? Just my possible guess.
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vanrulzz Commander
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 | | 01/11/2007 9:25 AM |
| | Oh, there was a blizzard. Can't even leave my driveway now. Snow is aout 6 inches thick here, i know its worse in Renton (where the headquarters actually are) than Seattle itself. | | | |
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Dordledum Commander
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 Netherlands
 | | 01/11/2007 10:10 AM |
| The weather is totaly off lately.
We are having storms up to windforce 9-10 Beaufort this week where I live, while it's 11 degrees centigrade, the birds haven't migrated south (some are mating), and the trees are beginning to blossom (people are complaining of hayfever!).
Normally around half january it's freezing -6 degrees centigrade, everybody is ice-skating, trees are bare, and wildife is rare until the start of april. It's as if our country is skipping winter entirely this year.
Sorry about the off-topic weather report from Holland, but I ahd to complain somewhere. 
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 01/11/2007 10:35 AM |
| Where's my snow!  | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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