Posted By PaSquall on 02/23/2007 10:26 AM

Of course, it would be even better if basic fire and frost giants could be redone as uncommons in standard DDM sets, released more or less at the same time...

Posted By PaSquall on 02/23/2007 10:26 AM
A "against the giants all-stars" pack would make me verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry happpppppppppppppppy (and I'm sure I'm not the only one). Seeing that Snurre and the hill giants have been done, I'd take :

- frost giant Jarl (large)
- remorhaz (large)
- queen Fruppi (fire giantess) (large)
- Eclavdra (drow priestess) (medium)
- Brazzemal (red dragon - time for a new sculpt !) (large - or possibly huge)

I'd happily pay 50 $ for this (but good paintjobs please...)


Of course, it would be even better if basic fire and frost giants could be redone as uncommons in standard DDM sets, released more or less at the same time...

Posted By Anaxagoras on 02/24/2007 7:18 PM
First I would like to see a more huge figsmade available...as there are so few and far between huge slots available.Â

I'd love to see sets with a Huge, a few larges or smalls, a pc sculpt or two, and a double sided map (one side skirmish, the other side purely RPG)

Ideas:
Ambush in the Underdark,
Aboleth and some skum thralls versus some iconic PC's

Battle in the Labyrinth,
Hydra and a few mounted PC's

War in the Abyss,
Nalfeshnee and re-sculpt Vrock versus Re-sculpted Bone Devils and other fiends

Other ideas, Huge Dragons, advanced critters (Umber Hulk!!!!)

At the end of the day, I'll keep buying as long as more and more monsters are available for my campaigns!  Keep up the good work...

Posted By lycusmike on 02/24/2007 7:31 PM
Aspect of Gruumsh and some orc minions vs Aspect of Corellon and followers

A set from each of the Against the Giants could work, why just Allstars?

Posted By Sir Bozak The Damned on 02/26/2007 11:04 AM
Some much needed Dragonlance love...

Posted By Olaf the Stout on 02/25/2007 2:13 PM

Posted By BigMongo on 02/26/2007 1:56 PM
Lidda said that they would not reprint things because they understood this. I just want to reinforce the idea that they are right.

How about the "Tavern Wench Scenario pack", featuring:

Tavern Wench
Surly Bartender
Drunken Local
Musician with Lyre
Lurking Thug
Tavern Wench with Ale
Local Farmer
Barrels
The Blacksmith
Three Dragon Ante Gambler
Table & Chairs
Drunken Sot
Tavern Wench on Drunken Sot's Lap
Out of work Adventurer
Off-duty Town Guard
Town Crier
Creepy Old Man
Gypsy Fortune Teller
Cook with Stuffed Goose
Kitchen Boy with Hot Pie
The Butcher (with pig)
The Baker (with bread)
The Candlestick Maker
Lady of the Night
The Fop
The Young Lordling
Stablehand
Common Dog
Tavern Wench with Food Platter

Also known as "Local Inn Scenario Pack" or "Townsfolk Scenario Pack". There have been other threads listing all the locals, but bundled together with a small town Inn map would be a nice product that I think would sell well. Perhaps including 3D props such as walls, bar counters, etc...

Posted By BigMongo on 02/26/2007 1:56 PM


This is a HORRIBLE idea. It would ruin the economy of the miniatures.

Sure you want them, but that is what makes them so cool (...)

 

Posted By Tyrant on 02/26/2007 4:26 PM
Buying minis as an investment isn't a bright idea. Yeah sometimes it works, but more often than not it won't. I didn't buy mine as an investment. That doesn't mean that I enjoy seeing older pieces I already paid and/or traded for suddenly drop in value very sharply to accomodate new players.

I think a very important question to ask is if someone isn't willing to pay the secondary market piece for an out of print figure of a collectible game from a few years ago, how much are they likely to actually spend on the product if you reprint it?

I think it is a mistake to try to appease new players at the expense of existing ones.

   
Looking at WotC, how many people were dying for a reprint of Clone Strike (Star Wars minis)? A lot. But why? They wanted pieces that had high secondary market value for cheap prices, while hoping they would retain or regain their values.

They didn't. The figures are mostly outclassed by newer figures and as far as I can tell Clone Strike is just sitting around. The secondary market value of it's figures dropped a lot.

That is what will happen with older DDM sets. People only really want a handful of valuable rares, not the whole sets.

Once they have them the sets will just sit on shelves.

It really is a much better idea to simply redo the most wanted older figures with new figures and stats. Then everyone with reasonable expectations will be happy. In a niche market like this, it's not a bright idea to do something that could alientate a large chunk of buyers (collectors and those misguided enough to think of them as an investment) for the potential of a handful of new people who likely won't spend as much per person, much less in total.

   

As for expecting these sets to more or less always be available (and that is really what some are arguing for if you think it through since there will always be new players wanting older figures for retail), that is so unrealistic it isn't funny. Stores cannot easily stock 12 sets of miniatures and continually add more.

You will destroy any collector purchases. At that point, it can't really be called collectible. Then people will seriously start to ask why their randomized if they aren't collectible.

Finally, they might switch to non randomized, which will raise prices and lower the number of figures released per year. That will more or less be the end of the game. I personally don't want that. So, again, I believe the far better solution for all involved is to redo the older pieces that people have a desire to get (dragons, orc champion and ogre ravager types, etc) with new sculpts and stats. Use the iconic packs for some if you want or put them into sets. Old figures remain hard to get and new players have a perfectly viable alternative that won't cost them lots of money. Only people looking to complain would complain.

Posted By BigMongo on 02/26/2007 1:56 PM


This is a HORRIBLE idea. It would ruin the economy of the miniatures. Sure you want them, but that is what makes them so cool. The stats cards on them are very playable. AND The miniatures look cool. I think there are much more beneficial avenues that they could pursue. Plus Lidda said that they would not reprint things because they understood this. I just want to reinforce the idea that they are right.

Posted By BigMongo on 02/26/2007 1:56 PM


This is a HORRIBLE idea. It would ruin the economy of the miniatures. Sure you want them, but that is what makes them so cool. The stats cards on them are very playable. AND The miniatures look cool. I think there are much more beneficial avenues that they could pursue. Plus Lidda said that they would not reprint things because they understood this. I just want to reinforce the idea that they are right.

Posted By Qucalion of Celene on 02/27/2007 4:37 PM
A "Paladin in Hell" Scenario Pack?

Posted By Zyla on 02/27/2007 8:12 PM
At that point DDM can no longer be called a collectible game. The trick is how can you do a pre-constructed package while still keep the DDM boost viable.

Posted By Zyla on 02/27/2007 8:12 PM
The problem comes with you can NOT have a desirable non-randomized product and a random-product that can be used in the same game, people will always buy the non-random pack rather then a random DDM booster, which will make random DDM boosters pointless if they can get the figure they want from that set at usually a cheaper price then buying a case of boosters, which may not have that figure they are looking for. It would turn DDM into Heroscape, where you only need to make 1 single purchase and thats all you need to do for that set.



At that point DDM can no longer be called a collectible game. The trick is how can you do a pre-constructed package while still keep the DDM boost viable.