Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 02/26/2007 9:42 AM |
| ...as a new line of Icons seems to appear in the horizon which could include huge minis and not only gargantuan and colossal ones. What do you think on the subject?
| | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 02/26/2007 9:47 AM |
| | I'd rather buy non random huge minis so I could get exactly the number of that mini I need. Being in a pack with other ones, could change significantly the situation, however. | | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 02/26/2007 11:44 AM |
| | I think Huge sets will still come out. So far we haven't seen an example of a nonrandom huge yet, so until they start coming out the packs are still the only source. I think if/when the nonrandom do come out, it probably will only be for those that might be more desirable in some kind of scenario pack than as a random pull. Even in that case, there still will be a place for Huge sets. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
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Username Warlord
 5692 Posts




 | | 02/26/2007 12:09 PM |
| I'd like to have huges sets if...:
#1. ...boosters went back to having 9 minis (8 tiny - large, 1 huge) #2. ...there were 72 minis in the set (60 tiny - large, 12 huge) #3. ...the BGoNM booster art/no rare huge thing can be avoided the first time.
| | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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jacksonm Warlord
 5560 Posts



 River City
 | | 02/26/2007 12:16 PM |
| | Not a big fan of the Huge sets myself, so few of them actually see use for the number you end up with. So for me I wouldn't be terribly disapointed if they went away, I know for sure I wouldn't mind if we had a good wait for the next one. | | | |
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hazel monday Warrior
 338 Posts



 Baltimore MD
 | | 02/26/2007 12:24 PM |
| | I wouldn't mind if they discontinue huge sets. As long as they do it after I get my Aboleth and Hydra. | | Champion of Phanatons. | |
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Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 02/26/2007 1:03 PM |
| Posted By hazel monday on 02/26/2007 12:24 PM I wouldn't mind if they discontinue huge sets. As long as they do it after I get my Aboleth and Hydra. There are a lot more huge minis needed: Nalfeshnee, Huge Elementals, the rest of the Huge Dragons (even some re-makes or re-sculpts of old ones, Remorhaz, Titan, Retriever, Bebilith, Goristro, Huge Monsters,...
| | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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Anaxagoras Warrior
 318 Posts




 | | 02/26/2007 1:13 PM |
| I think there are plenty of Huge creatures Left that to do away with Huges would be an utter, utter disapointment.
Just off the top of my head:
Huge Green Dragon Huge White Dragon Huge Blue Dragon Huge Silver Dragon Huge Bronze Dragon Aboleth Hydra Catobelpas Nalfeshnee Retriever Charnal Hound Froghemoth Remorhaz Polar Worm Dragon Turtle Charnal Hound Huge Water Elemental Huge Earth Elemental Huge Air Elemental Titan Horrid Umber Hulk Advanced Owlbear Athach Advanced Chimera advanced Golem's advanced gorgon Nightwing Death Giant Battlebrian Harpoon Spider Nightmare Beast Slaughterstone Behemoth Dire Troll Nycaloth Commander Hellfire Wyrm .....
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Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 02/26/2007 1:43 PM |
| Charnal Hound must be a must for you because you wrote it twice!  | | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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 Bert the Troll Commander
 3964 Posts



 Adelaide
 | | 02/26/2007 2:11 PM |
| I love huge sets. It these minis that look good on the display case, encountred more often than garguatan, and seem easier to afford via boosters than iconic packs.
But the whole lack of real response over no huge rares in BGoNM boxes really soured me to WoTC, and if repeated would really *&% me. | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 02/26/2007 2:20 PM |
| Froghemoth is only Huge? I always thought it was bigger (kind of like the Titanic Toad...)
I would prefer to see a mixture of occasional Huge sets (although the distribution needs to be trouble-shot first) and occasional releases of Huge minis in the Icons line. | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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 Faragdar the Wise Commander
 3547 Posts



 Albuquerque, NM, USA
 | | 02/26/2007 2:39 PM |
| Huge sets are cool. They should do more than just fix the problem with predictable distribution of huges, though. I think they should also restructure the rest of the distribution to match the 6 booster per case distribution. Going back to 9 minis per booster is one way to help with that. I don't think the solution is to go back to 72 minis for the set, though. What if they did this distribution?:
Each booster contains: 1 huge (1/3 chance rare, 2/3 chance uncommon), 1 standard rare, 3 uncommon, 4 common
The set consists of 12 huge (6 rare, 6 uncommon), 18 standard rare, 18 uncommon, 12 common
That way the set has 60 minis as has become the standard. As with WotDQ, each case is guarranteed to have 2 rare huge, but unlike WotDQ, each case is also guarranteed to include 1 of each uncommon and 2 of each common. If you buy 3 cases, you have a shot at each rare and each huge rare, you probably have 2 of each uncommon huge, and you know you'll have 3 of each uncommon and 6 of each common. That would prevent things like the Stirge debacle, too. | | "Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." - Albert Einstein Champion of Myopic Half-Orcs Winner, WBC X | |
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Star Sergeant
 978 Posts



 New Britain, CT
 | | 02/26/2007 3:44 PM |
| I like the huge sets and hope they continue at their current rate. I wouldn't want them released more frequently than they are currently being released though.
Huges could (and probably will be) released in iconic packs - but we haven't seen any evidence of that so far. It's definately premature to think that huge sets will disapear. | | Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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Omand Commander
 3120 Posts



 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
 | | 02/26/2007 4:10 PM |
| Hello,
I am of split minds on this topic. I do enjoy the huge minis, but the distribution has been an issue in the past. I know that I have had far too many huge uncommons minis around at times.
I think Faragdar's solution might just work if it were implemented.
Cheers 
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ksarchet Sneak
 144 Posts




 | | 02/26/2007 4:47 PM |
| | I know how to fix the huge mini problem. All huges' are same rarity...Huge. Problem solved. | | Champion of Eludecia, Succubus Paladin mounted on Vrock
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berus316 Sergeant
 663 Posts



 Markham, Ontario Canada
 | | 02/26/2007 6:02 PM |
| Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM I know how to fix the huge mini problem. All huges' are same rarity...Huge. Problem solved. Perfect.
12 Huges... 1 per box, equal distribution.
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Star Sergeant
 978 Posts



 New Britain, CT
 | | 02/26/2007 6:18 PM |
| Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM I know how to fix the huge mini problem. All huges' are same rarity...Huge. Problem solved.
I love this solution. It won't happen though. | | Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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zoroaster100 Sergeant
 873 Posts




 | | 02/26/2007 6:51 PM |
| | I definitely want to see more huge sets. The reason I'm hoping the Icons line also include some huges is because we need more huges, not less. The Icons line needs to supplement the huges because we are not getting huges fast enough for RPG needs. As a D&D DM, I've been collecting a ton of these D&D minis from every set. The huge gap still left in what I need for my games is mainly huges, such as the remaining three huge elementals, the remaining four huge chromatic and four metallic dragons, aboleth, hydra, nalfeshnee, remorhaz, polar worm, etc. | | | |
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Count Dooku Commander
 4637 Posts



 New York
 | | 02/26/2007 8:10 PM |
| | I think Huge Sets still need to exist. If huges become non-random icons then we will never see huges that may not sell well if they were not in non-random packaging.
Thanks to random packaging I can get minis like the Nightwalker (wich I love). I doubt it would sell well if it was in an icon pack. | | Champion of the Skulk Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
 11113 Posts



 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 02/26/2007 8:55 PM |
| Yeah this does sound Ideal to me. The new Icons or scenario packs could take care of the rarer huge figures.Posted By Star on 02/26/2007 6:18 PM Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM I know how to fix the huge mini problem. All huges' are same rarity...Huge. Problem solved. I love this solution. It won't happen though.
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Anaxagoras Warrior
 318 Posts




 | | 02/26/2007 11:07 PM |
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Posted By Mjollnir on 02/26/2007 1:43 PM Charnal Hound must be a must for you because you wrote it twice!  I think it was the charnal hounds ninja prowess...
tricksy, tricksy Charnal Hounds....
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SkYlyn3 Warrior
 222 Posts



 Williamsburg, Virginia
 | | 02/27/2007 12:22 AM |
| | Greater Abyssal Basilisk. I want to see that. | | Champion of Mohrg
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Ridureyu Underboss
 1622 Posts




 | | 02/27/2007 1:33 AM |
| | I would love to see an Athach. Aberration Wild-shaping Druids need some love, too. | | Owner of The Original Rust Monsters! DDM: Harbinger: 76/80 Dragoneye: 60/60 Archfiends: 56/60 GoL: 72/72 Aberrations: 60/60 Deathknell: 60/60 Angelfire: 60/60 Underdark: 60/60 War Drums: 60/60 War of the Dragon Queen: 60/60 Blood War: 60/60, Unhallowed: 60/60 Night Below: 60/60 Desert of Desolation: 60/60 Dungeons of Dread: 60/60 Against the Giants: 60/60 Dreamblade: All | |
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PDK Sneak
 134 Posts



 | | 02/27/2007 2:47 AM |
| the only way id want another huge set is if the boosters costed the same as regular boosters. since that will never happen, i guess ill never want a huge set. my brother uses my figures, so im basically buying to two, and with huge sets i still get way to much of pieces i have no use for. 5 huge spiders, 4 dracoliches, these figures arent even good let alone usable in those numbers. Also, the nonrare figures from WotDQ totally sucked, tordek dwarf god not considered, so if they are going to make a few useful huges and fudge on the rest of the set because they figure people will buy them for the huges still, well you can totally count me out. i dont need any more godslayer + bonded summoner or mountain troll + magma hurler packs in my lifetime | | Champion of Manshoon of the Zhentarim addict of orcs, ogres, and anything that smashes | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6843 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 02/27/2007 10:05 AM |
| | Well, until they actually announce an icons set with huges, we're just speculating that they will have a set of huges as an icon release. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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orcdoubleax Sergeant
 694 Posts



 | | 02/27/2007 10:19 AM |
| Personaly I would like to see them do a Huge only set. 40 minis or so. 3-4 to a booster. wouldn't fool up a regular set and you be able to do most of the huges that people would want. so 2008 two regular set and one huge only set, 2009 back to regular sets. At least that is what I would like to see. | | Yes I am Gelatinous.
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I Tyrant Warrior
 178 Posts




 | | 02/27/2007 10:51 AM |
| Actually I wish they'd do something like this:
12 huges for a huge set, no other creatures, no rarity
they would come in six different packs (non random like the icons) ranging from $12-$15
two huges per pack, one huge a "classic creature" or MM1 creature that everybody needs or wants. The other Huge as one of the more "out-landish" but still cool monsters, stuff from the FF or fiendish codexs or other source books (which there are many).
As far as the "classic creature" or MM1 don't tell me they'd run out, with all the template maddess (fiendish, enhanced, advanced, half-(insert creature type here), etc.) it would be awhile before they would run out of ideas (years).
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 12507 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 02/27/2007 11:02 AM |
| | I hope they don't do away with huge sets. I enjoy the big figs, and two years between huge sets sounds just right. I also agree that we can't have that distribution problem of knowing which box art is less likely to produce a huge rare. I do wish some of the huge creatures could be played in 200 pt games though; it could make some really interesting shifts in the meta-game. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6637 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 02/27/2007 1:09 PM |
| | if people keep buying them they will keep making them | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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Olaf the Stout Sergeant
 404 Posts


 Adelaide, Australia
 | | 02/27/2007 2:43 PM |
| Posted By Wolfgang on 02/27/2007 1:09 PM if people keep buying them they will keep making them
That's pretty much my thoughts summed up there. If they keep selling well then WotC will keep making them.
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shazam01 Warrior
 230 Posts




 | | 02/27/2007 10:30 PM |
| Until something new happens I would imagine they would continue, something about the huges that are nice even if the actual creatures aren't my personal first choice. From face value doing away with rarity on the huges sounds like a nice idea, also I liked the 9 figs in GoL to the 8 in WotDQ-especially since they cost the same. | | Champion of Minsc & Boo
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gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 02/28/2007 2:21 PM |
| | Which is more important then: getting less for the same price or increasing the price for the same number of figs? I'd also love if they did away with rarity on the huges, but I can see having them as well. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
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