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02/26/2007 9:42 AM  
...as a new line of Icons seems to appear in the horizon which could include huge minis and not only gargantuan and colossal ones.
What do you think on the subject?

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02/26/2007 9:47 AM  
I'd rather buy non random huge minis so I could get exactly the number of that mini I need. Being in a pack with other ones, could change significantly the situation, however.

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02/26/2007 11:44 AM  
I think Huge sets will still come out. So far we haven't seen an example of a nonrandom huge yet, so until they start coming out the packs are still the only source. I think if/when the nonrandom do come out, it probably will only be for those that might be more desirable in some kind of scenario pack than as a random pull. Even in that case, there still will be a place for Huge sets.

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02/26/2007 12:09 PM  
I'd like to have huges sets if...:

#1. ...boosters went back to having 9 minis (8 tiny - large, 1 huge)
#2. ...there were 72 minis in the set (60 tiny - large, 12 huge)
#3. ...the BGoNM booster art/no rare huge thing can be avoided the first time.


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02/26/2007 12:16 PM  
Not a big fan of the Huge sets myself, so few of them actually see use for the number you end up with. So for me I wouldn't be terribly disapointed if they went away, I know for sure I wouldn't mind if we had a good wait for the next one.

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02/26/2007 12:24 PM  
I wouldn't mind if they discontinue huge sets. As long as they do it after I get my Aboleth and Hydra.

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02/26/2007 1:03 PM  
Posted By hazel monday on 02/26/2007 12:24 PM
I wouldn't mind if they discontinue huge sets. As long as they do it after I get my Aboleth and Hydra.
There are a lot more huge minis needed: Nalfeshnee, Huge Elementals, the rest of the Huge Dragons (even some re-makes or re-sculpts of old ones, Remorhaz, Titan, Retriever, Bebilith, Goristro, Huge Monsters,...


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02/26/2007 1:13 PM  
I think there are plenty of Huge creatures Left that to do away with Huges would be an utter, utter disapointment.

Just off the top of my head:

Huge Green Dragon
Huge White Dragon
Huge Blue Dragon
Huge Silver Dragon
Huge Bronze Dragon
Aboleth
Hydra
Catobelpas
Nalfeshnee
Retriever
Charnal Hound
Froghemoth
Remorhaz
Polar Worm
Dragon Turtle
Charnal Hound
Huge Water Elemental
Huge Earth Elemental
Huge Air Elemental
Titan
Horrid Umber Hulk
Advanced Owlbear
Athach
Advanced Chimera
advanced Golem's
advanced gorgon
Nightwing
Death Giant
Battlebrian
Harpoon Spider
Nightmare Beast
Slaughterstone Behemoth
Dire Troll
Nycaloth Commander
Hellfire Wyrm
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02/26/2007 1:43 PM  
Charnal Hound must be a must for you because you wrote it twice!

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02/26/2007 2:11 PM  
I love huge sets. It these minis that look good on the display case, encountred more often than garguatan, and seem easier to afford via boosters than iconic packs.

But the whole lack of real response over no huge rares in BGoNM boxes really soured me to WoTC, and if repeated would really *&% me.

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02/26/2007 2:20 PM  
Froghemoth is only Huge? I always thought it was bigger (kind of like the Titanic Toad...)

I would prefer to see a mixture of occasional Huge sets (although the distribution needs to be trouble-shot first) and occasional releases of Huge minis in the Icons line.

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02/26/2007 2:39 PM  
Huge sets are cool. They should do more than just fix the problem with predictable distribution of huges, though. I think they should also restructure the rest of the distribution to match the 6 booster per case distribution. Going back to 9 minis per booster is one way to help with that. I don't think the solution is to go back to 72 minis for the set, though. What if they did this distribution?:

Each booster contains: 1 huge (1/3 chance rare, 2/3 chance uncommon), 1 standard rare, 3 uncommon, 4 common

The set consists of 12 huge (6 rare, 6 uncommon), 18 standard rare, 18 uncommon, 12 common

That way the set has 60 minis as has become the standard. As with WotDQ, each case is guarranteed to have 2 rare huge, but unlike WotDQ, each case is also guarranteed to include 1 of each uncommon and 2 of each common. If you buy 3 cases, you have a shot at each rare and each huge rare, you probably have 2 of each uncommon huge, and you know you'll have 3 of each uncommon and 6 of each common. That would prevent things like the Stirge debacle, too.

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02/26/2007 3:44 PM  
I like the huge sets and hope they continue at their current rate. I wouldn't want them released more frequently than they are currently being released though.

Huges could (and probably will be) released in iconic packs - but we haven't seen any evidence of that so far. It's definately premature to think that huge sets will disapear.

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02/26/2007 4:10 PM  
Hello,

I am of split minds on this topic.  I do enjoy the huge minis, but the distribution has been an issue in the past.  I know that I have had far too many huge uncommons minis around at times.

I think Faragdar's solution might just work if it were implemented.

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02/26/2007 4:47 PM  
I know how to fix the huge mini problem.  All huges' are same rarity...Huge.  Problem solved.

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02/26/2007 6:02 PM  
Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM
I know how to fix the huge mini problem.  All huges' are same rarity...Huge.  Problem solved.

Perfect.

12 Huges...  1 per box, equal distribution.

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02/26/2007 6:18 PM  
Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM
I know how to fix the huge mini problem.  All huges' are same rarity...Huge.  Problem solved.


I love this solution. It won't happen though.

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02/26/2007 6:51 PM  
I definitely want to see more huge sets. The reason I'm hoping the Icons line also include some huges is because we need more huges, not less. The Icons line needs to supplement the huges because we are not getting huges fast enough for RPG needs. As a D&D DM, I've been collecting a ton of these D&D minis from every set. The huge gap still left in what I need for my games is mainly huges, such as the remaining three huge elementals, the remaining four huge chromatic and four metallic dragons, aboleth, hydra, nalfeshnee, remorhaz, polar worm, etc.


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02/26/2007 8:10 PM  
I think Huge Sets still need to exist. If huges become non-random icons then we will never see huges that may not sell well if they were not in non-random packaging. Thanks to random packaging I can get minis like the Nightwalker (wich I love). I doubt it would sell well if it was in an icon pack.

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02/26/2007 8:55 PM  
Yeah this does sound Ideal to me. The new Icons or scenario packs could take care of the rarer huge figures.
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Posted By ksarchet on 02/26/2007 4:47 PM
I know how to fix the huge mini problem.  All huges' are same rarity...Huge.  Problem solved.


I love this solution. It won't happen though.



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Posted By Mjollnir on 02/26/2007 1:43 PM
Charnal Hound must be a must for you because you wrote it twice!
I think it was the charnal hounds ninja prowess...

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02/27/2007 12:22 AM  
Greater Abyssal Basilisk. I want to see that.

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02/27/2007 1:33 AM  
I would love to see an Athach. Aberration Wild-shaping Druids need some love, too.

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02/27/2007 2:47 AM  

the only way id want another huge set is if the boosters costed the same as regular boosters.  since that will never happen, i guess ill never want a huge set.  my brother uses my figures, so im basically buying to two, and with huge sets i still get way to much of pieces i have no use for.  5 huge spiders, 4 dracoliches,  these figures arent even good let alone usable in those numbers.   Also, the nonrare figures from WotDQ totally sucked, tordek dwarf god not considered,  so if they are going to make  a few useful huges and fudge on the rest of the set because they figure people will buy them for the huges still, well you can totally count me out.  i dont need any more godslayer + bonded summoner or mountain troll + magma hurler packs in my lifetime


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02/27/2007 10:05 AM  
Well, until they actually announce an icons set with huges, we're just speculating that they will have a set of huges as an icon release.

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02/27/2007 10:19 AM  

Personaly I would like to see them do a Huge only set. 40 minis or so. 3-4 to a booster.  wouldn't fool up a regular set and you be able to do most of the huges that people would want.

so 2008 two regular set and one huge only set, 2009 back to regular sets.

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02/27/2007 10:51 AM  
Actually I wish they'd do something like this:

12 huges for a huge set, no other creatures, no rarity

they would come in six different packs (non random like the icons) ranging from $12-$15

two huges per pack, one huge a "classic creature" or MM1 creature that everybody needs or wants. The other Huge as one of the more "out-landish" but still cool monsters, stuff from the FF or fiendish codexs or other source books (which there are many).

As far as the "classic creature" or MM1 don't tell me they'd run out, with all the template maddess (fiendish, enhanced, advanced,  half-(insert creature type here), etc.) it would be awhile before they would run out of ideas (years).



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02/27/2007 11:02 AM  
I hope they don't do away with huge sets. I enjoy the big figs, and two years between huge sets sounds just right. I also agree that we can't have that distribution problem of knowing which box art is less likely to produce a huge rare. I do wish some of the huge creatures could be played in 200 pt games though; it could make some really interesting shifts in the meta-game.

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02/27/2007 1:09 PM  
if people keep buying them they will keep making them

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02/27/2007 2:43 PM  
Posted By Wolfgang on 02/27/2007 1:09 PM
if people keep buying them they will keep making them


That's pretty much my thoughts summed up there.  If they keep selling well then WotC will keep making them.

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02/27/2007 10:30 PM  
Until something new happens I would imagine they would continue, something about the huges that are nice even if the actual creatures aren't my personal first choice.
From face value doing away with rarity on the huges sounds like a nice idea, also I liked the 9 figs in GoL to the 8 in WotDQ-especially since they cost the same.

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02/28/2007 2:21 PM  
Which is more important then: getting less for the same price or increasing the price for the same number of figs? I'd also love if they did away with rarity on the huges, but I can see having them as well.

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