Raland
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| I was commenting the other day about the amount of cardboard with our minis this time around, so I took a few pictures. Not sure I can figure the reasoning behind it all but maybe some of the wise might shed some insight
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Bert the Troll
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| | 03/12/2007 6:31 PM |
| I was glad to see the cardboard, and the plastic protect thingajigs on a few weapons.
Anything to help stop the distorted and bent figures. | |
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gss_000
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Baltimore, MD
| | 03/12/2007 6:47 PM |
| | I had a lot fewer bent pieces with all the carboard. Of course, in order to store them, I had to put them in cases that are probably going to bend them anyways, but I appreciate them coming to me as close to perfect condition as possible. | |
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yack
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| | 03/12/2007 7:11 PM |
| | I'm all for the cardboard less damaged and must use hot water fixes. Keep up the great work.... its worth the extra price. | |
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Raland
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| | 03/12/2007 7:16 PM |
| I don't understand the cardboard on some of these though, like the Vampiric Dire Wolf and Caller in Darkness. What does wrapping the base do? | |
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| | 03/12/2007 7:21 PM |
| Keeps it from running away I imagine.  Posted By Raland on 03/12/2007 7:16 PM I don't understand the cardboard on some of these though, like the Vampiric Dire Wolf and Caller in Darkness. What does wrapping the base do?
I'm glad they are taking better steps to unsure undamaged product. I was pleasantly suprised the Phalanx Soldier had a plastic brace to protect his weapon. | |
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Star
Sergeant
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New Britain, CT
| | 03/12/2007 7:54 PM |
| I was very happy with the cardboard to help protect the mini's - I was even happier with the plastic protectors on the polearms.
My concern with this set (prior to opening my cases) was the Beholder Lich. I'd heard stories of the first Beholder having a problem with broken eye stalks. I didn't have any such problems with the first one or with the Beholder Lich - but I notice that the stalks are all facing upward and inward instead of in all directions like the first one. I wonder if that was done on purpose to help prevent breaking? | |
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| | 03/12/2007 8:11 PM |
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The carboard on the bases of many of the large minis is probably an attempt to reduce the warping problems they've had in the past.
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gss_000
Commander
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Baltimore, MD
| | 03/12/2007 8:14 PM |
| | Maybe with the small area of contact between the base and the mini, they were protecting it from snapping off the base if it took a bad hit. Better safe than sorry. | |
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Nobody Important
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| | 03/12/2007 8:48 PM |
| Maybe all that cardboard is there to throw off a boosters feel in an attempt to thward cherry pickers. At the prerelease I also noticed that the tops all had a tap holding them shut in addition to the glue; probably more security measures.
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| | 03/12/2007 9:48 PM |
| Posted By Nobody Important on 03/12/2007 8:48 PM
Maybe all that cardboard is there to throw off a boosters feel in an attempt to thward cherry pickers. At the prerelease I also noticed that the tops all had a tap holding them shut in addition to the glue; probably more security measures.
I'm not sure the cardboards additional weight will affect cherry picking all that much. All of those rather heavy large uncommons wil though. | |
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gss_000
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Baltimore, MD
| | 03/12/2007 11:26 PM |
| Posted By Nobody Important on 03/12/2007 8:48 PM
Maybe all that cardboard is there to throw off a boosters feel in an attempt to thward cherry pickers. At the prerelease I also noticed that the tops all had a tap holding them shut in addition to the glue; probably more security measures.
That might be to make certain there wasn't a distribution system that favored certain players over others. At DDXP I had the fortune to help out for one round of DDM play and they instructed us in the exact method they wanted us to distribute boosters so no one would suspect foul play. The same might be the case in your prerelease.
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
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Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 03/13/2007 12:07 AM |
| | I've really not noticed the benefits from this additional packaging. | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
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| | 03/13/2007 12:17 AM |
| | The base-wrappers help keep the base from warmping too much. Something like theBeholder Lich's base has a high chance of waring due to the low amount of contact with the figure. | |
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ScruffyRanger
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Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 03/13/2007 2:12 AM |
| Ridureyu,
Jah... I understand the concept. However, I don't think it works. Miniatures still have warped bases - to a lesser or higher degree than those packed without cardboard - it's really too early to tell. Bases, are easily straightend anyways. Allah knows I tried a whole bunch of methods to rectify bases before sticking to a simple: boil, shape, cold water/freezer and repeat system.
The bigger problem (I believe), which Wizards appear to have not really given any attention to; is the seams. The areas of the miniatures where two pieces have been joined. I would like to see this issue addressed for future sets. I guess, knowing very little about the process of joining the pieces, I can't really make much of a comment save, it needs to be addressed... probably by someone with a few more INT points than me!  | |
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warchanter
Sergeant
394 Posts
Italy
| | 03/13/2007 3:12 AM |
| | I bought one booster but none of the minis (Giant Owl included) had any cardboard around them whatsoever. Maybe the european boosters were packaged differently? | |
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Star
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New Britain, CT
| | 03/13/2007 4:07 AM |
| Posted By warchanter on 03/13/2007 3:12 AM
I bought one booster but none of the minis (Giant Owl included) had any cardboard around them whatsoever. Maybe the european boosters were packaged differently?
Maybe they're still upset about the recall and decided to save a couple of pennies per booster sold in Europe to help offset the cost of the recall and reformulating the plastic they use for the mini's.
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Dordledum
Commander
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Netherlands
| | 03/13/2007 4:46 AM |
| Posted By warchanter on 03/13/2007 3:12 AM
I bought one booster but none of the minis (Giant Owl included) had any cardboard around them whatsoever. Maybe the european boosters were packaged differently? mine had cardboard, love the special ability on the runcarver:
wall of carton: +2 ac, vulnerable to fire
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nyjastul69
Commander
2731 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 03/13/2007 7:23 AM |
| | I like the additional packaging. I think the plastic thingamajig on the (common) phalanx soldier is especially nice. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/13/2007 8:13 AM |
| Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/13/2007 7:23 AM
I like the additional packaging. I think the plastic thingamajig on the (common) phalanx soldier is especially nice.
I tend to bend those polearms more by pulling them out of the plastic protectors than they would have been if they were not extra protected.
It worked better with the ice-devil IMHO,
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nyjastul69
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Rhode Island
| | 03/13/2007 8:48 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 03/13/2007 8:13 AM Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/13/2007 7:23 AM
I like the additional packaging. I think the plastic thingamajig on the (common) phalanx soldier is especially nice. I tend to bend those polearms more by pulling them out of the plastic protectors than they would have been if they were not extra protected. It worked better with the ice-devil IMHO, D.
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| | 03/13/2007 9:09 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 03/13/2007 4:46 AM Posted By warchanter on 03/13/2007 3:12 AM
I bought one booster but none of the minis (Giant Owl included) had any cardboard around them whatsoever. Maybe the european boosters were packaged differently? mine had cardboard, love the special ability on the runcarver: wall of carton: +2 ac, vulnerable to fire D.
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Faragdar the Wise
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| | 03/13/2007 1:07 PM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 03/13/2007 9:09 AM Posted By Dordledum on 03/13/2007 4:46 AM Posted By warchanter on 03/13/2007 3:12 AM
I bought one booster but none of the minis (Giant Owl included) had any cardboard around them whatsoever. Maybe the european boosters were packaged differently? mine had cardboard, love the special ability on the runcarver: wall of carton: +2 ac, vulnerable to fire D. ...and conceal 11 | |
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