Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
    
The Red Light District
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It is becoming increasingly apparent that WotC has abandoned the idea of Epic Cards for older pieces, in favor of releasing them for newer pieces. I fully understand why they're doing this, but I still want cards for the older minis that should have them. Aspects, Red Wizard, Centaur Hero...I could go on and on.
I am starting this petition to show WotC that we, the consumer, want these older cards and are willing to compromise. I am hereby petitioning WotC to release one online only Epic Card for an older piece per month when they put up the download of the new Epic Card release. Please WotC, throw us older players a bone here.
*Note: The options given in this poll are based on my belief that we will never see another Older epic card in a kit, thus I didn't include kits into the options. If I had, I'm sure everyone that voted yes would've voted for kits. Heck, I would've voted for kits and I can't even get them. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 03/30/2007 9:00 AM |
| Since just pressing a button won't mean much, I'm putting my virtual John Hancock here.
I think this is an excellent idea, and should be supported even if you don't use cards. | |
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Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 03/30/2007 9:06 AM |
| | Seeing as how it was my idea, I doubt it's a secret that I voted Yes!!!! | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2731 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 03/30/2007 9:10 AM |
| | I'm indifferent. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/30/2007 9:33 AM |
| I voted Yes.
I'm in the camp of wanting to see more older figures get the Epic love even though I understand the desire to give cards to new minis. | | | |
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 03/30/2007 10:29 AM |
| | Put me down for indifferent...I use the cards for quick stats when running D&D, but I don't skirmish...so epic cards are kind of wasted on me... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
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Round Table
Wolfgang
Warlord
6637 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 03/30/2007 11:03 AM |
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| sign me up for older epics!!! | |
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ckissee
Underboss
1431 Posts
KD :)
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Darkfather
Commander
3468 Posts
Queensland, Australia
| | 03/30/2007 11:44 AM |
| Epic Orcus... Epic Orcus... Epic Orcus...
I bow to you oh great one. Please rule over my corpse. Oh great and EPIC Orcus.
DF
**Oh, btw. I voted yes too.**
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/30/2007 12:07 PM |
| indifferent as I don't play epic.
D. | |
Member of the Bearded Devils
Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 03/30/2007 1:23 PM |
| | YES!!! PLZ WoTC listen to us!!!! | |
Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :(
Some day I will be back in board | |
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Almalik
Warrior
266 Posts
Vancouver-ish, Canada
| | 03/30/2007 2:42 PM |
| | Even one card every second month, every thiid month, bi-annually. Anything really, just some sort of sign/commitment that WotC are going to eventually finish giving the older cards (Aspects, etc.) their epics. | |
Champion of Aspect of Juiblex (with Oozemaster) and Aspect of Skurmsh! | |
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Zoons
Underboss
1067 Posts
| | 03/30/2007 2:49 PM |
| | Well I didn't vote. I'd like WOTC to do the older epics (especially the undone aspects), but I'd like to have official cards, not on-line official data. I know I can print them, but I want them done right. Maybe if there was an option D) Print a dozen or so of them and give them away with proof of purchase thingys from boosters and the cost of shipping. That'd be cool. | |
Never teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
Champion of the Blink Dog. | |
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
361 Posts
Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 03/30/2007 4:42 PM |
| I'm not a fan of DYI.
I would like to see older Epic Cards released... like Champion of Eilistraee, maybe even Ghaele Eladrin. Online only format though is not something I would support. So ahhh, no vote from me. I have actually printed some of the online material available from wizards - a Fane Of Lolth to be exact - it's very, very good, laminated and crease free but the image quality of the originals just isn't there... even though I had it done on Snap's badass plotter thing. | |
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angelfiend
Sneak
97 Posts
| | 03/30/2007 4:59 PM |
| I love epic cards, and definitely want epic cards for older figs even if they have to be online only. Hooray!
Still not a fan of putting cards for new sets in kits and not the new sets. Boo!
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 03/30/2007 9:34 PM |
| | Yes Please. Pretty Please. | |
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
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Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 03/30/2007 10:53 PM |
| | I want epic cards released for the older mini's but I would rather they actually be released - not online versions. | |
Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3547 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 03/30/2007 11:06 PM |
| | Yes I want epic cards for my old minis! | |
"Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." - Albert Einstein
Champion of Myopic Half-Orcs
Winner, WBC X | |
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MAURIZIO
Sergeant
960 Posts
Lima, Perú
| | 03/30/2007 11:14 PM |
| Of courseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
EPIC A. of Orcus, yes | |
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shazam01
Warrior
230 Posts
| | 03/31/2007 12:13 AM |
| Yeah there are obviously older minis that deserve a shot at epicdom or epic redemption depending on how their stats went the first time.
It fully looks like the newer sets are getting all the attention now, so maybe an online pdf would be the way to go for the older figs | |
Champion of Minsc & Boo
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
11113 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 03/31/2007 12:51 AM |
| | I could care less about the Epic cards myself. | |
Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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the other guy
Warrior
262 Posts
Montreal, Canada
| | 03/31/2007 5:25 AM |
| I'm voting option D, official older cards, no online stuff! | |
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Cylerist
Skirmisher
10 Posts
Red Hill PA
| | 03/31/2007 6:14 AM |
| I was hoping to see more of these myself and was wondering way all the newer ones were from current sets.
WotC seems to have forgotten the figures that started this whole thing. | |
Old School Greyhawk!
Protector of Gnomes, Killer of core Tieflings! | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 03/31/2007 7:01 AM |
| Sounds good to me.Â Â 
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Knight of the Rahshasa's
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
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Count Dooku
Commander
4637 Posts
New York
| | 04/01/2007 12:26 PM |
| I dont like any of the 3 options. I want Epic Cards for older minis in retailer kits.
Online only doesnt appeal to me at all but I'd like to see the cards made.
Im afraid I cant vote.
If the point of the poll is that we would get them as online or not at all...Well to me thats the same thing so Im indefferent. | |
Champion of the Skulk
Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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MackeyJ
Underboss
1414 Posts
| | 04/01/2007 12:44 PM |
| | Sign me up too for older epics. I vote yes. | |
John
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MackeyJ
Underboss
1414 Posts
| | 04/01/2007 12:46 PM |
| | How many signatures do you think we'd need for WoTC to take this seriously? I'd guess it would have to hit in the 1000's. | |
John
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Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 04/01/2007 5:49 PM |
| | @Vrecknidj and Count Dooku: Perhaps my initial statement should've been a little clearer. I am conducting this based on the seemingly valid assumption that we have seen the last of the older cards in kits and will not get anymore older cards in kits ever. I would prefer them in kits as well, even though I would just download them, as I don't have access to kits. I didn't include kits as an option because I don't believe it is a realistic one. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 04/01/2007 6:45 PM |
| Posted By MackeyJ on 04/01/2007 12:46 PM
How many signatures do you think we'd need for WoTC to take this seriously? I'd guess it would have to hit in the 1000's.
In some respects I think they will take it as seriously with just one signature as with 1000s, just because of the nature of online communities and comments. Now I think this s an excellent idea, but anything done solely online has to be taken with a big grain of salt. Online groups and those that post to them regularly are more fervant in their fandom than the average person (look at the number of online only "Bring back X show" petitions), but that doesn't mean it isn't worth doing. Just having Wraithborn make the poll and others comment can let them think about the idea if nothing else. But after that, there are other factors that we as the consumers don't have to deal with that probably will allow or prevent this fom happening, more so than the number of signatures.
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Knight of the
Round Table
Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/01/2007 8:58 PM |
| | I'm with Vrecknidj and Count Dooku on this one. I want real epic cards for my older minis. I have been a good customer since the start of DDM, and continue to be a good customer. That latter doesn't mean that they should ignore my request. Instead, Wizards should reward my loyalty. | |
Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 04/02/2007 9:19 AM |
| | No thanks. The older epics having cards would only serve the purpose of driving up secondary market prices for those older figures even higher, and would likely be unplayable in skirmish due to overcosting. Give me something playable and current so that less collected members of my skirmish market can keep pace with me, and other more aggressive collectors. | | | |
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lyus_sleyden
Warrior
253 Posts
| | 04/02/2007 10:12 AM |
| Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Forward the results to Ian..... | |
Minister of Social Issues of KD
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 04/02/2007 10:49 AM |
| Posted By Sharn Inquisitor on 04/02/2007 9:19 AM
No thanks. The older epics having cards would only serve the purpose of driving up secondary market prices for those older figures even higher, and would likely be unplayable in skirmish due to overcosting. Give me something playable and current so that less collected members of my skirmish market can keep pace with me, and other more aggressive collectors.
Now this is a good point I never even thought of. Since we have Maddas guide, has anyone ever noticed that epics drive prices up? I wonder if this actually would occur with sets old enough that prices have been static for months.Â
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SYB
Warrior
328 Posts
| | 04/02/2007 1:37 PM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/01/2007 8:58 PM
I'm with Vrecknidj and Count Dooku on this one. I want real epic cards for my older minis. I have been a good customer since the start of DDM, and continue to be a good customer. That latter doesn't mean that they should ignore my request. Instead, Wizards should reward my loyalty.
I knew someone would eventually use this argument.
Last I looked, every single long term customer has been rewarded for their loyalty. Retail kit rewards have existed almost from day one. Loyal, long term customers have received a reward every month since they started. It is amazing that any long term players can possibly complain that their loyalty isn't being rewarded. Saying this means they are ignoring everything they ever received in the past.
If a customer has been buying this product for the last 2 years and has received (or had the potential to receive) a reward kit piece every month during those 2 years, then they have been rewarded in exactly the correct proportion. Loyalty does not "deserve" some additional reward.
Putting older epic cards into retail kits does not reward older players, it screws newer players. There are limited resources for these kits, and if they are being used to reward a small portion of the DDM population (the long term players), then the newer players simply are getting left out.
It is simply untrue that loyalty SHOULD be rewarded beyond the current monthly rewards. And it is simply untrue that loyalty has not been rewarded (long term players have received more freebies than newer players). I continue to be disappointed with all the people who clamor for rewards that provide nothing for newer players, especially given the fact that the main people who are clamoring for these rewards are long time players (people who I expect better of).
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Nate_666
Sergeant
801 Posts
Midwest
| | 04/02/2007 1:41 PM |
| I voted yes, i don't like the 500 point power creep that will occur without epic cards for the aspects and other similarly costed older miniatures.
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