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Faragdar the Wise
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05/09/2007 2:59 PM  
Yikes. I didn't realize there was so much negative sentiment and that there were so many people thinking of leaving the game. I haven't skirmished competitively in a long time, but I still love collecting and playing the game.

So, for those who have left the game or are considering leaving the game, what could WotC and/or the gaming community do to "win you back", so to speak?

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05/09/2007 3:02 PM  
it's funny the guys who got me involved in the game (gordonboom and abysaljuggler) don't collect any more (abysaljuggler) or have moved back to games that they really like like MTG (gordonboom) i have heard from some newer people that they have been scammed on this site by some winners so have left this on for others I myself don't skirmish anymore because no one in the area does and so i just collect for RPG purposes i will quit one day but not to soon

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05/09/2007 3:05 PM  
the Large Black Dragon is one of the biggest disappointments this game has produced...

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05/09/2007 3:33 PM  
Posted By kritter on 05/09/2007 3:05 PM
the Large Black Dragon is one of the biggest disappointments this game has produced...
Huh?  I haven't been skirmishing for a while.  I did play one match with one Large Black.  What's the problem with it?  Is it just the current super mini?Â


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05/09/2007 3:51 PM  
Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 2:59 PM
Yikes. I didn't realize there was so much negative sentiment and that there were so many people thinking of leaving the game. I haven't skirmished competitively in a long time, but I still love collecting and playing the game.

So, for those who have left the game or are considering leaving the game, what could WotC and/or the gaming community do to "win you back", so to speak?

Its not so win us back for me its quit pushing new ideas and material down my throat and start doing more figures that are classic or have been designed in books in years.(MM-3 plus FF) Lets make figures people know not try to make a fast buck and hope people buy "the new book." because you made the figure!
**just my 2cents on the rpg side of the buying.

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05/09/2007 5:14 PM  
Posted By yack on 05/09/2007 3:51 PM
Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 2:59 PM
Yikes. I didn't realize there was so much negative sentiment and that there were so many people thinking of leaving the game. I haven't skirmished competitively in a long time, but I still love collecting and playing the game.

So, for those who have left the game or are considering leaving the game, what could WotC and/or the gaming community do to "win you back", so to speak?

Its not so win us back for me its quit pushing new ideas and material down my throat and start doing more figures that are classic or have been designed in books in years.(MM-3 plus FF) Lets make figures people know not try to make a fast buck and hope people buy "the new book." because you made the figure!
**just my 2cents on the rpg side of the buying.
Yes, there are several things that haven't been touched in MMI yet, and there are many resculpts/redos.  There still isn't a monstrous scorpion, for instance.  There still isn't a horse (without rider).  There are basic things they haven't done in over ten sets.  And then there's a steady supply of fringe stuff.


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05/09/2007 7:18 PM  
Posted By Corim Danex on 05/09/2007 5:14 PM
Posted By yack on 05/09/2007 3:51 PM
Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 2:59 PM
Yikes. I didn't realize there was so much negative sentiment and that there were so many people thinking of leaving the game. I haven't skirmished competitively in a long time, but I still love collecting and playing the game.

So, for those who have left the game or are considering leaving the game, what could WotC and/or the gaming community do to "win you back", so to speak?

Its not so win us back for me its quit pushing new ideas and material down my throat and start doing more figures that are classic or have been designed in books in years.(MM-3 plus FF) Lets make figures people know not try to make a fast buck and hope people buy "the new book." because you made the figure!
**just my 2cents on the rpg side of the buying.
Yes, there are several things that haven't been touched in MMI yet, and there are many resculpts/redos.  There still isn't a monstrous scorpion, for instance.  There still isn't a horse (without rider).  There are basic things they haven't done in over ten sets.  And then there's a steady supply of fringe stuff.


You know, since reading this thread I'm thinking seriously about getting back in in a very limited way.  Basically at this point there are enough great minis that I could pick and choose whatever I want.  Essentially buy choice singles of my favorite pieces.  It would be a little insane considering I cleaned out a collection of nearly 4,000 minis, but the idea has occurred to me and I'm seriously considering it.

What would it take to win me back?  Better affordability more than anything.  The minis are just too expensive for what they are.

Kritter: if you do decide to get out, look me up.  I may be interested in buying a chunk of your collection from you.  I'd make sure we both walked away happy.


(I know this totally contradicts what I wrote earlier.  Minis make me crazy.)


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05/09/2007 7:33 PM  

 For what its worth the other person I know in my country that plays, left for a while and now he is back after getting a stable job and a new group.... he moved out of state and now he is happily back.

 I still like the game and will keep playing DDM or rpg whatever we can play on weekends, we now have an AAM & WAS group too, so if we can still mix successfully all the games we will keep doing it.

 My collection is now 10,000 minis strong and my only complaint is storage of the minis and their cards....

 On the financial side I am doing great, so no worries there......


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05/09/2007 7:58 PM  
   I'll tell you what they can do.  They can release metal minis again!  The last metal minis I purcased were for 3.0 and their scale was off.  I have a troll, ogre, displacer beast, beholder, and others large creatures on 1" bases.  Goblins, gnomes, halflings and other small creatures on 1" bases.  They then came out with chainmail which I never got into, teh minis sucked.  The scuplts sucked, the poses sucked, they were too cartoony and looked soooo stupid.  I give more money to reaper than ever to wizards.

   They also need to get back to basics.  They are turning people off with all these dumb books (I hear their coming out with a booger flicker prestige class in the complete annoying suplement).  There is a point were there gets to be too much stuff.  They had plenty to build off of with core books.  I know they are supposed to making money but like so much else in America they are greedy and not thinking of community.  It's like the collosal red (which is not collosal) is the Hummer of the D&D game.  Anybody count how many books they have?  I bet if you had them all it would be near 50 at least.  

   I like the tiles, maps, minis (that make sense), dice, and other tools to help you play the existing game.  No more rules!  The game is hard enough to learn and play without the DM remembering the tactics of thousands of monsters and hundreds of classes.  Wizard, sorcerer, warlock, wu-jen, come on, give me a break, it never ends.  

   HEY! I got an idea lets come up with the ultimate stupid mini with the idea that we will release a book years from now that will explain its origin and stats.  Here's another idea lets mate this monster with that monster slap a template on it and confuse the hell out of people and charge them $15 to get it.  We have slots to fill with crap lets fill it with another elf, dwarf, goblin, kobold.  Like Britney Spears's next album, two okay pop songs and 10 songs that suck.

   Just think when they stop making money they will either stop production (dungeon and dragon mags) or release 4.0 and make us start all over again.  Thousands of dollars worth of material suddenly obsolete.

Thats my rant, thanks.

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05/09/2007 8:16 PM  
Ooops. I mentioned that there wasn't a monstrous scorpion a few posts ago. I meant a CENTIPEDE. Duh! Well, there isn't a medium, small, or tiny scorpion, and any or all of those would be cool (along with small, tiny spiders.

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05/09/2007 8:21 PM  
I would gladly pay $75 (we already pay $40 for a book we hardly use) for a well thought out adventure that takes you from 1st to 4th level, that comes with the maps that you need for encounters and the minis (quality ones mind you, even metal) that you need for said maps.  Wow what a concept give people what they need to play a game they won't want to throw into the fireplace.  Note: don't throw things into the fireplace, it pollutes.

Then you can release more adventures, even more 1st level ones with different monsters and encounters.  When did it stop being about the role playing, and story telling (why am I killing all these goblins and who would I cry over if they won and wiped out my village?) and become about a bunch of stats that drive one to be a 10 multiclass power freak?

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05/09/2007 9:05 PM  
D&D is about roleplaying if you let it.  it all depends on DM style.

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05/09/2007 9:29 PM  
   Sorry valrulzz I have to disagree.  When a DM starts a group now he has 4 or more PCs spending days agonizing over every skill point and feat with all there focus on the prestige classe(s) they are going to get around 10th level 2 years away from 4 different books.  They don't care how they met, where they live, where they got there inspiration to become heroes or even what they look like.  They just want to kill whatever, get XP, treasure, so they can lop 6 heads of 3 ettins in one turn because it sounds cool.  

   That's why I am trying to start a Dragonlance game a few core books, a few suplement books, one for clerics, one for wizards, one for fighters and no one can make me learn a bunch of crap, yes it is crap they are releasing now.  Complete mage? I tought we already had complete arcane? Complete champion, I thought we already had complete warrior?  The game stops being fun and becomes a "gotta get 'em all" pokemon mentality.  I remember playing when the story was intense and I was on the edge of my seat on what was next.  Now the stuff they release is not condusive to storytelling it hampers what originally made the game fun.

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05/09/2007 10:48 PM  
My wife, as a first time DM, has made her own dungeon after taking us through a level one published adventure. It's been a blast, and we are only a couple sessions into her adventure. You can make great adventures. It just takes a lot of thought and work.

I played through a campaign to level 14 with another group that my wife is a player in also. It was a lot of hack and slash. Now, we're starting with a second group and we're trying to learn how to role play more. It's funner. I am playing a gully dwarf cleric with a Wis of 18 and an Int of 6. It's challenging figuring out what he would figure out (due to Wis) and role play with Int of 6. It's a blast, though.

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05/10/2007 4:02 AM  
Posted By raymo13 on 05/09/2007 9:29 PM
   Sorry valrulzz I have to disagree.  When a DM starts a group now he has 4 or more PCs spending days agonizing over every skill point and feat with all there focus on the prestige classe(s) they are going to get around 10th level 2 years away from 4 different books.  They don't care how they met, where they live, where they got there inspiration to become heroes or even what they look like.  They just want to kill whatever, get XP, treasure, so they can lop 6 heads of 3 ettins in one turn because it sounds cool.  

   That's why I am trying to start a Dragonlance game a few core books, a few suplement books, one for clerics, one for wizards, one for fighters and no one can make me learn a bunch of crap, yes it is crap they are releasing now.  Complete mage? I tought we already had complete arcane? Complete champion, I thought we already had complete warrior?  The game stops being fun and becomes a "gotta get 'em all" pokemon mentality.  I remember playing when the story was intense and I was on the edge of my seat on what was next.  Now the stuff they release is not condusive to storytelling it hampers what originally made the game fun.

Raymo, I know how you feel. It was those exact type of thoughts that kept me away from 3e til this year. I've since learned that you can have a 3.5 game that is more role-playing than combat, where the PC's aren't digging for each and every +1 they can get. Maybe I'm lucky - the guys I'm gaming with enjoy developing their characters. When we start a new campaign, we always spend the first session making characters (takes about an hour total) - then we do something else for the rest of the night. The following week, I'll have the backgrounds done up for the PC's, and after a short period of familiarizing themselves with the info, we start the actual roleplaying (including them meeting).

We've found that this works great to help the players get into their characters. They know that if all they want is combat, then I'm the wrong DM. As long as you aren't afraid to put your foot down about what is and is not allowed (ie I told them from the start that we're only using the PHB, MM and DMG) then you can have a smooth game.

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05/10/2007 4:31 AM  
Shottglazz, has it right if you put ur foot down on what can be used, if players have a problem with it see ya! I let them use only the FR books and the core DM and players guide. Anything outside too bad unless monster books which I use as I'm the DM and it makes it more fun in that part.
As for metal minis I think the main issue with this is people want them painted already... (I myself like to paint) but most don't. Second problem with metal is the weight and chipping. Storage is already a huge issue with minis as it is. Imagine you had to be super careful to store them because they chip.
My huge major problem with metal and this is just me (and I have a ton of metal minis) is putting them together and gluing and such major pain in the butt and the one of the main reasons I love the plastic!
I don't buy minis that I have to put together anymore its a major pain and time consuming.
There's lot of RPG in my games...lots. I dislike the powergaming computer game feel of players and try to stay away from them in my games.
raymo13: but you did make a major point like I stated above there is too much "buy this now" being thrown down our throats. They have a great game and could make a killing just bringing out minis of what they have already in books. Monster books alone it would be awesome. Oh and bring Dungeon back dagnit!

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05/10/2007 7:07 AM  
Posted By yack on 05/10/2007 4:31 AM
raymo13: but you did make a major point like I stated above there is too much "buy this now" being thrown down our throats. They have a great game and could make a killing just bringing out minis of what they have already in books. Monster books alone it would be awesome. Oh and bring Dungeon back dagnit!

Thanks for pointing this out Yack - I totally agree with you and Raymo on this point. Back up the stuff that's already been published, then give us the fringe stuff.

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05/10/2007 9:08 AM  
   yack and shottglazz you both make very good points.  Thats why I am trying very hard to start a Dragonlance group.  Just the core books and dragonlance books, that's all you can use.  (although the spellsword is really cool from complete warrior)It's like the "prestige" class has lost all its prestige.  

   But back on topic.  The metal minis do get hard to deal with, I guess I have been lucky and none of mine have been damaged.  I seal them very well and even dropped one on a tile floor with gasps and horror but it was fine.

   I guess if you follow the merric's laws of minis I would happily pay a whole lot more for a pack of orc army prepainted plastic minis than pay hundreds of dollars trying to get that one orc wizard, blast another lame golden protector!  Didn't we just pay $35 for a gargantuan blue.  The thing is a lot of plastic and only one mini.  Break that garg. piece of plastic down to 10 medium size orcs including a few duplicate cr 1/2 warriors and I would buy them with gitty ease for even $40.  That is if they have the sculpt and paint quality of some of the later minis not an alien faced mess.

   I think this would fix the scale problem too.  You would have more quailty control because the box is clear.  We get to see what we get before we buy.  Does anyone else find it odd that we have never seen any of these things in person before we buy them?  Then come out with and underdark set I then II then III of drow or  koa-toa or mindflayers with companion  monsters.  How much would you pay for a dragon baby set with a med red and small blue and green and tiny white and black? $20, $25, $30, $35...

   I would buy every single set, even multiples, if they came out like this but then they wouldn't be able to sell us crap we would never use.... actually they would because those 5 wrackspawn come with the vrock and balor in the demon set.  I guess we will never win.

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05/13/2007 9:56 AM  

I really think there is an obvious trend here as you read, so let me sum it all up:


#1  People are tired of all the new monsters, there are simply too many new, and we want the classics!  I know from a marketing standpoint it seems bad to give us all of them, but our pocket books are not endless and eventually we will stop paying for the stuff we don't want in the first place (new monster figures).


#2  New books adding rules is a negative, it's a complicated game to start with and adding more just makes it more confusing.  Not saying new stuff is entirely bad, just saying it becomes overwhelming and too expensive in the long run.  I am actually thinking of starting my own world with little magic, therefor making it rare and fantastic when you actually fine that special weapon or tomb of spells.  In this campaign players and myself would only use the core books and everything else is off limits without special DM permission.  Some power player will complain slightly early on I am sure but eventually they will see how it builds the anticipation and excitement of the game, and creates what I hope to be a little more role playing and a little less hack and slash.

#3  Any supplements like large terrain maps that are generic are always welcome, but stop putting buildings on them please.  With one specific location you have destroyed the chance that I can use it more than once unless we walk by the same building in the forest every 100 feet (I don't think so!).  Suggestions:  large battle maps with open ocean, forest, hills, mountains, etc... (very, very, very useful)

#4  Dungeon Tiles are a cool idea.  Keep working with the concept as I personally believe it is heading in the right direction with the Wilderness set, just remember very generic is good especially for the largest pieces (see #3).

#5  Many of us are RPG players only and we need the classics not new minis and more monster manuals.  Even remaking sculpts is a cooler idea than countless new monsters.  Don't get me wrong a few cool monsters now and then is good but we have now reached severe overkill.  A new monster manual every 3-5 years would be just fine.

#6  New Adventures and campaigns are always good and save us DM's serious time (personally I would like a low magic campaign where at level 8 you might be lucky to have a small handful of magic weapons or equipment)  I always like the Dragonlance Chronicles series because magic we wonderous and seemed rare.  For example Raistlin uses are magic missile or sleep spell and everyone is in shock at his power.  Healing was unheard of until Goldsmoon arrived, and magic weapons are nearly unheard of meaning finding a +1 longsword is really really exciting stuff.

#7  Smaller sets for less money might be something to check into, I would bet there is a market there.  And random minis may start pushing people away as they only want what they need.  Modules with minis for every encounter and maps for them is a fantastic idea.  I ran the Red Hand super adventure and it was awesome, if we would have had premade encounter maps with all the minis needed, WOW!!!  This idea would be a huge seller I would bet.

Summary:  More classics and resculpts and way less new creatures.


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05/13/2007 12:14 PM  
This is an interesting thread to me as I've considered and maybe sometimes regretted the amount of money and time I've put into DDM.
I'm a major collector and become iterested in minis with each new set.  Trading and the excitement of the new keeps me coming back.

HOWEVER,
1. The rising price of minis

2. The repetitiveness of resculpts

are major problems for me  I don't want the same mini, but with a different name (ie: owlbear, carrion crawler, displacer beast).  They've come out already and I've collected them.  I think most collectors who've been in it from the beginning get pissed over this as well.  I don't want 16 minotaurs, but if I'm collecting 4 of every mini that's what I end up with.
The price creep has been way beyond inflation values and gas prices have nothing to do with it.  I can't believe when people bring this up as an excuse for the hike....bleah! This is a big factor for me as I spend between $800-$1000 per set and a jump from $10 to $15 over 3 years is outrageous.

Anyway, I'm not out yet, so count on at least one obscene collection to continue to be obscene.
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05/13/2007 12:18 PM  
Posted By tirwin on 05/13/2007 9:56 AM

I really think there is an obvious trend here as you read, so let me sum it all up:


#1  People are tired of all the new monsters, there are simply too many new, and we want the classics!  I know from a marketing standpoint it seems bad to give us all of them, but our pocket books are not endless and eventually we will stop paying for the stuff we don't want in the first place (new monster figures).


I COMPLETELY DISAGREE!

One of the things I LOVE about Dungeon magazine is that they try and use monsters from the other monster books (MM2-MM4, FF, etc).Â

I've played D&D for ages and my group and myself know all the old tired monsters. What's more, is that WOTC has pretty much made all the non-huge MM1 mosters into minis already.  For older collectos who have collected these already, it would be nice to start fleshing out the OTHER books where less than 5% of the monsters have been done in all cases.

NO MORE RESCULPTS PLEASE! I DO NOT WANT TO BUY THE SAME MINI AGAIN!
(or atleast make it a template that looks considerably different... like undead or something).


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05/15/2007 12:03 PM  
I think a healthy mix of old and new is the best path.

Plus, resculpts with new stats are bound to happen, not everyone has access to the Harbinger owlbear, or umber hulk.

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05/15/2007 2:43 PM  
For new monsters, I'll pull out an old copy of Creatures & Treasures I, II or III from Rolemaster (we had a long-time RM game with my group). Converting those monsters is simple, and a lot of them are really well explained and detailed. They make for good variations if the old standbys are getting stale...

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05/15/2007 2:47 PM  
So no one is getting their perfect set because there are elements that other people like in it? Sounds like good balance to me.

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05/15/2007 3:10 PM  
I stopped playing skirmish due to the fact that the game was getting too "rock-paper-scissors" for me.  The gameplay was just a poor shadow of what I was doing with RPG anyway and so I just RPG now instead of skirmish.Â

I also "discovered" dreamblade for myself which offered WAY better gameplay as far as a minitures game goes.  It kind of filled the hole that skirmishing left me with . . .

and now because I have a TON of minis, I can pretty much represent nearly every encounter I have in D&D...so there is no need to buy more.  I have what I want, and if there is something supercool, well I can buy the single.....

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05/15/2007 9:13 PM  
The game is becoming very much a rock-paper-scissors affair. A ranged band on Grotto will just eat slow walkers alive. And ranged bands on Hellspike will have a hell of a time.

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05/17/2007 2:10 PM  
I only bought one case and a couple random boosters of Unhallowed. I am 9 away (IIRC) from completing it, yet I don't really feel the drive to do so. I'm probably not going to buy another case of it and I'll only grab the remaining rares if I can get them in trade. Since the last price increase my buying has dropped substantially.

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05/17/2007 2:11 PM  
Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 2:59 PM
So, for those who have left the game or are considering leaving the game, what could WotC and/or the gaming community do to "win you back", so to speak?

Price drop back to $9.99 per booster.

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05/17/2007 3:02 PM  
Just talked to my buddy that I share a collection with the other day and he's putting some thought into getting out, splitting our collection(which will be happening soon regardless)and selling off all of his. Most likely he'll have me broker the deal here as I can't afford to buy that kind of lump sum, much as I would like to.

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05/17/2007 3:30 PM  
Wraithborne, sorry to hear that you are losing out on half of your shared collection. That can't be very fun.

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05/17/2007 4:34 PM  
Posted By Corim Danex on 05/17/2007 3:30 PM
Wraithborne, sorry to hear that you are losing out on half of your shared collection. That can't be very fun.


Thanks Corim,
I knew it was coming someday and we've tried to stay prepared, trying to keep at least 2 of everything we have. I also have lots of 1e Modules that he covets, so some trading will likely occur before he sells them. Losing half will likely still leave me in excess of 1,500 figs, so it's not that bad. I've known he was losing interest for a while, as he bought little BW and no UH (not that I bought much UH) and with my baby coming it just seems like the timing is right.

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05/17/2007 5:32 PM  
Bummer on the collection. I've had to go it alone for a while, I'm just now getting people interested (last few months) so I've been there. Best of luck, and congrats on the young'n.

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