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Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
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The Red Light District
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For those who are unaware, I changed my avatar to reflect my feelings towards Unhallowed and will only change it when they put out what I believe is a good set. Night Below is off to a good start, but so was Unhallowed when we only knew a few figures. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/09/2007 5:01 AM |
| | Personally, I voted no way....I want to be wrong, but I think that pretty soon the sets equivalents of Turnips, Aspects of Hugh Jackman, Rhinos, Monoliths, etc. etc. will begin to show their ugly heads and I'll find 50% of the set desireable at best. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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yack
Commander
3321 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/09/2007 5:06 AM |
| | Come bud where's the Hope ? I see light at the end of this one's tunnel ! | |
Champion of the Peryton
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
361 Posts
Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 05/09/2007 5:57 AM |
| | Ergh... just what is the problem you people have with Aspects of Hugh Jackman??? | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/09/2007 5:57 AM |
| indeed, put on a happy face!
D. | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 6:54 AM |
| "Always look on the bright side of life! Duh-duh, duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh!" 
I voted for fence rider, myself.
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 7:28 AM |
| | If you're asking for a guess, I'll say it'll be a good set, just as good as any of the others. They can't make everyone happy, we all have different feelings about every piece that comes out. Basically what sucks for you, doesn't suck for someone else. I think that unhallowed was an awesome set, but I'll just stick to getting what I like from each set and avoiding the rest. | |
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kyrin
Commander
3172 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 8:24 AM |
| Actually, judging by my trade box, Dwarf Battleragers and Changeling Rogues pretty much suck for everybody.
Just saying, is all.
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 8:39 AM |
| But, I think that's due to the common slots not being a good slot for LG/CG, but is a required slot for those factions. These figures will always pile up, because ppl don't want em for skirmish or for rpg in the quantities that they're available - but they can't all be put in uncommon slots for various reasons. I've always been of the opinion that there should be a fourth rarity that reduces the number of throw away commons we get.
Something like;
1 rare (out of 16)
1 large uncommon (8 )
2 uncommon (16)
2 semi-commons (12)
2 commons (8 )
Now, these numbers might not really work, but could... still means 2 cases minimum, you'd get 8 rare dupes minimum, but hopefully they'd be better rares. | |
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Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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bw
Warrior
249 Posts
Baton Rouge, LA
| | 05/09/2007 9:16 AM |
| | So far it's looking really nice! No stinkers yet. | |
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 05/09/2007 9:38 AM |
| | I think it's gonna be good enough WB...no longer will you have to stick your tongue out at the quality of the latest DDM sets... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3547 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 05/09/2007 9:40 AM |
| Aspect of Hugh Jackman?  | |
"Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." - Albert Einstein
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nyjastul69
Commander
2731 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 05/09/2007 9:41 AM |
| Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 9:40 AM Aspect of Hugh Jackman?
I think it's the WWL.
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| Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/09/2007 9:50 AM |
| Posted By Faragdar the Wise on 05/09/2007 9:40 AM Aspect of Hugh Jackman?
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Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
| Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/09/2007 9:55 AM |
| Posted By bw on 05/09/2007 9:16 AM
So far it's looking really nice! No stinkers yet.
One man's zero is another man's 3. I count 3/10 confirmed minis that I have no desire to get. The Kobold, Wulfgar-Valenar-Face and the Zombie Pope aka Vol. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 10:51 AM |
| | Yeh, Vol is pretty lame. Kobold is pretty niche. But, there's RAISTLIN. | |
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Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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wicked cool
Underboss
2151 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 10:52 AM |
| | need more infmaion on what is non desireable and what percentage makes it a good set? is the kbold bad based on sculpt or that its a kobold. | |
The ROCK layeth the smacketh down. Long live Farscape
Vindicated-CHAMPION of the INTELLECT DEVOURER
i will change my avatar when martin completes dances with dragons | |
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Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/09/2007 11:22 AM |
| Posted By wicked cool on 05/09/2007 10:52 AM
need more information on what is non desirable and what percentage makes it a good set? is the kobold bad based on sculpt or that its a kobold.
I realize non-desirable is very subjective. For me, a lot of it boils down to the rares. If I don't want at least 16 of the rares in a set, I don't see any point in buying a case. Many people say that Unc/C make a set, and I agree to an extent, but this has less of an impact on how much I'll buy, as I can always get a huge pile for a couple of lower rares. On an overall set, I would figure a good set would 75% or better desirability. Blood War was closer to 90, Unhallowed was somewhere around 40.
As for the kobold, It's all about the sculpt. I find the sculpt, while kind of cool to be utterly useless for RPG. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
11113 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 05/09/2007 11:52 AM |
| Zombie Pope? I've got a handfull of those guys painted up.  | |
Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 12:56 PM |
| I won't ever change my avatar simply b/c I love to look at my pups. They are way cooler than minis any day. However, Shoe declared long before we knew the official name of this set, that it was probably going to be his favorite ever. Blood War, IMO is the best set they ever produced, and I'm excited to see what Night Below has in store to surpass my wishes. A Frost Giant f/u to the FGFP is a good start, and a Large white dragon is something I have wanted in scores for many years now. Raislin will be a wonderful repaint, and a strong PC wizard type (finally young) for any player to use. Vol looks kinda wierd with the headdress, but hey, a half dragon elf that is now a Lich has got to be a challenge. All toll, I'm pretty psyched. We're getting a Babau finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaron | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 05/09/2007 1:23 PM |
| I think it will be good enough for even the ever-doubting wraithborne.
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Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/09/2007 1:32 PM |
| | I'm hping this one will be better for you, but you should keep the avata anyways. | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 05/09/2007 2:44 PM |
| | I expect it to be a good set, maybe not the best ever, but a good one, so I chose first option | |
Champion of the Molydeus
Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil)
Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque
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Wolfgang
Warlord
6637 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 05/09/2007 3:08 PM |
| | I hope it is a good set wraith but i voted that you will have that avatar for awhile longer i think this one will stink worse then unhallowed the only bright spot is rastlin and jarl so far i do hope i am wrong | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/09/2007 4:08 PM |
| | That fence is giving me a wedgie. | |
"Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 05/09/2007 6:08 PM |
| | I'll have to see more...looks good so far | | | |
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 6:38 PM |
| Heck, everything but Wulfgar and the Jarl I like very much, indeed. Go, Kobold Trapmaker!  | |
Champion of the Prismatic Golem
MechaKingGhidra: Infamous for his absolute despisement of Red Dragons and devout worshipper of all Black Dragons. | |
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shazam01
Warrior
230 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 10:51 PM |
| Thanks for the clarification on the Aspect of Hugh Jackman! That's funny...
Anyways I chose fence sitter, you don't seem to like the unique-creature Eberron figures & the rares make or break the set for you & we know of several uniques which I would guess you see negatively. But there are so many possibilites that we have yet to see...
I think UH had solid commons, great uncommons & some good rares so I probably have no idea what you're going to like. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/10/2007 1:11 AM |
| | I went for the fence-sitting posture for now. It seems a little too early to tell. If anything though, the set can only go up in my opinion. A set anchored by both Raistlin (my favourite D&D character of all time) and a Large White Dragon can't be all that bad, unless the rest of the pieces really suck. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/10/2007 2:09 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/09/2007 11:22 AM
I realize non-desirable is very subjective.
Yup. Subjectivity makes the question posed here impossible to answer with any degree of certainty.
Many people say that Unc/C make a set
Commons and Uncommons determine whether or not I'll buy cases. If I want a ton of uncommons/commons (not likely these days) cases end up being cheaper. If I want just a few and would like multiples of certain rares singles purchases end up being cheaper.As for the kobold, It's all about the sculpt.
For every mini it's all about the sculpt. Caller In Darkness is a weird, low-desirability monster however, the Caller In Darkness mini is arguably the most aesthetically pleasing mini released to date.
Since we're dealing in material objectivity aesthetics make a tremendous difference in perception.
Judging by the criterion laid out I would imagine that no set will meet the requirements for the avatar change, particularly as more MM4 and MM5 (as well as other more niche supplement) monsters are released (i.e. the Scorrow). | |
Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie?
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TheArcher
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 05/10/2007 2:52 AM |
| Will Night Below be good enough to make me change my avatar?
The simple truth...noone really cares. Period.
If you're asking for a guess, I'll say it'll be a good set, just as good as any of the others. They can't make everyone happy, we all have different feelings about every piece that comes out. Basically what sucks for you, doesn't suck for someone else. I think that unhallowed was an awesome set, but I'll just stick to getting what I like from each set and avoiding the rest.
Exactly my feelings.
I, personally like all the good oldschool beasties plus all the uniques from the novels that I've read and thus have a emotional connection with. But just because I dislike, for example, all Eberron related stuff from the bottom of my heart does not mean that I scorn every new set that has figures like the undead draconic half-crap Lady Vol in it. Its a fundamental rule of a working society of humans: Try to appease the largest possible number of individuals.
So your lame avatar is not just the reflection of your feelings towards a particular minis set but a symbol of pissed-off immaturity. Asking for a set that at least has a 75% or more PERSONAL desirability is not just selfish but also highly unlikely. There are so many different tastes out there, so many bullywug collectors, eberron lovers, dragon haters, kobold fanatics, drow nerds, etc. each and every one of them having collected so many positive or negative emotions tied to various fantasy creatures in their lifetime...how could you possibly hope to design a set that has AT LEAST 75% of creatures in it that everybody would like to have?
That said, your aspect of hugh jackman comparison is hilarious but also another case of a personal dislike. I for one love this mini, it is a plastic dream come true for me. I always wanted an inquisition-style mini with a torch and clothes like that. And I think it will be used in RPG for various other impersonations...good job there of wizrads IMO. A squire of the Juju-Zombie on the other hand is not very likely to be made, I guess...*g*
Sorry if I sounded rude here but I just cannot stand people with such an undifferentiated "black or white" attitude. Its the same with those people who watch a movie and find it either absolutely dreadful or ingenious....no space for discussion in between.... | | | |
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yack
Commander
3321 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/10/2007 5:29 AM |
| U can't have gray without black or white sorry....
Everyone is set 2 their own opion and thats fine, that was Wraithbornes opion as its his thread...inwhich we all have had discussions about the UH set in past threads and most people knew that Wraithborne was not happy with the set at the time. So this is more of joke thread in a wierd way... wierd way is just the way we are on this site... 
Take a deep breath its only minis.... j/k
I'll take some juju zombies.....!!! | |
Champion of the Peryton
Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer
DW: Duergar Priest
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Gallandv
Sneak
73 Posts
Lafayette, La.
| | 05/10/2007 6:34 AM |
| Posted By TheArcher on 05/10/2007 2:52 AM Will Night Below be good enough to make me change my avatar? The simple truth...noone really cares. Period. If you're asking for a guess, I'll say it'll be a good set, just as good as any of the others. They can't make everyone happy, we all have different feelings about every piece that comes out. Basically what sucks for you, doesn't suck for someone else. I think that unhallowed was an awesome set, but I'll just stick to getting what I like from each set and avoiding the rest. Exactly my feelings. I, personally like all the good oldschool beasties plus all the uniques from the novels that I've read and thus have a emotional connection with. But just because I dislike, for example, all Eberron related stuff from the bottom of my heart does not mean that I scorn every new set that has figures like the undead draconic half-crap Lady Vol in it. Its a fundamental rule of a working society of humans: Try to appease the largest possible number of individuals. So your lame avatar is not just the reflection of your feelings towards a particular minis set but a symbol of pissed-off immaturity. Asking for a set that at least has a 75% or more PERSONAL desirability is not just selfish but also highly unlikely. There are so many different tastes out there, so many bullywug collectors, eberron lovers, dragon haters, kobold fanatics, drow nerds, etc. each and every one of them having collected so many positive or negative emotions tied to various fantasy creatures in their lifetime...how could you possibly hope to design a set that has AT LEAST 75% of creatures in it that everybody would like to have? That said, your aspect of hugh jackman comparison is hilarious but also another case of a personal dislike. I for one love this mini, it is a plastic dream come true for me. I always wanted an inquisition-style mini with a torch and clothes like that. And I think it will be used in RPG for various other impersonations...good job there of wizrads IMO. A squire of the Juju-Zombie on the other hand is not very likely to be made, I guess...*g* Sorry if I sounded rude here but I just cannot stand people with such an undifferentiated "black or white" attitude. Its the same with those people who watch a movie and find it either absolutely dreadful or ingenious....no space for discussion in between.... Wow, that was harsh! In the end we all lack some maturity (I like to think of it as holding on to a little bit of my inner childhood) because we play with little plastic miniatures. Most adults (who have unfortunately grown up completely) would think we are all very childish. I for one take solace in that fact by the knowledge that my 11 year old son and I have a friendship bond that most of those “Adults” could never hope to have. We actually play together.
In the end IMO you come to a forum like this for one of four reasons 1. Early looks at fuzzy pictures to get an idea of how this current set is stacking up.
2. Discuss tactics and warband’s. 3. Show our Like/Dislike for certain minis or game aspects. 4. Speculation. We may also cling to the hope that if we (the group majority) cry for something enough we might get it. We should see a G-Cube soon and when we do it’s because of the outcry from the different forums that we will. If no one cared enough to ask for it they would have never gone through the trouble that they have in trying to get one done right. The same holds true for what we hate. If enough people show their disappreciation for some aspects it could make a change happen. I dislike Ebberron specific minis because I have no love for the setting. I do not hope they discontinue its use because others do like it but I will buy less of sets with Ebberron heavy miniatures so I make mention to let my feelings be known. On topic. It’s too early for me to tell so I guess I’m a fence sitter. I have not bought cases in a while because I have not liked enough of the minis I want to justify it. So I guess I’m not holding out much hope that this one will make me start buying cases again but they can come on strong in the end.
I guess I should have added another reason to my list although a far less noble one: 5. Flame/Troll | | | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 05/10/2007 6:44 AM |
| | Overall things aren't looking good so far...... that may change, many minis still to be revealed. Right now this is looking like a down set for me despite a couple real nice minis to get. | | | |
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Raland
Sergeant
924 Posts
| | 05/10/2007 7:07 AM |
| Posted By TheArcher on 05/10/2007 2:52 AM
The simple truth...noone really cares. Period.
I care, some care. For those of us that live and breathe not only minis but the daily dicussion of them, can't wait to see what one another thinks about various releases of information and their stance as that known about a set grows. An extenstion of my daily visits or practical residence even, I take note of most every avatar change and there is oft discussion of it's representation and reason. | |
Champion of the Kender
ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007"
Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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TheArcher
Skirmisher
29 Posts
| | 05/10/2007 8:20 AM |
| U can't have gray without black or white sorry....
beside the point. All I said was that some people lack a certain degree of objectivity. To use the same analogy again, damning a movie to hell just because it was not perfectly to one's liking is as childishly subjective as glorifying another movie just because your favourite actor makes a short appearance in it...
Wow, that was harsh!
As is chosing an avatar that seemingly sticks its tongue out at all the incompetent wizard employees. If you start a thread saying that unhallowed was a bad set you have got to cope with whatever echo comes from the community.
Everyone is set 2 their own opion and thats fine
Well, thats mine...
In the end we all lack some maturity (I like to think of it as holding on to a little bit of my inner childhood) because we play with little plastic miniatures. Most adults (who have unfortunately grown up completely) would think we are all very childish.
sorry, but also beside the point. First of all I dont think we all lack some maturity just because we've chosen to play a miniature based strategy game instead of using cigarettes, alcohol or drugs as a means to escape from hardships of every day life. The same goes for using the minis for roleplaying purposes. Roleplaying is also constantly attacked by so called "mature people" as being a waste of time or as being immature. But I cannot see whats immature in using your imagination...
Anyhow, what I called immaturity was freaking out when a mini set is not exactly what you had wished for. That is a kind of stubborn subjectivity which has little to do with the child in all of us, which I agree should be upheld until old age.
3. Show our Like/Dislike for certain minis or game aspects.
4. Speculation.
We may also cling to the hope that if we (the group majority) cry for something enough we might get it.
Agreed. But, may I ask, what does it help when wraithborne voices something like this:
For those who are unaware, I changed my avatar to reflect my feelings towards Unhallowed and will only change it when they put out what I believe is a good set.
If only he could go into detail a tiny bit more instead of just nagging about how deplorable it all is... | | | |
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thekidxii
Sergeant
533 Posts
No Yack. I said.. we need a DM not BM!
| | 05/10/2007 9:56 AM |
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In the end IMO you come to a forum like this for one of four reasons
1. Early looks at fuzzy pictures to get an idea of how this current set is stacking up.
2. Discuss tactics and warband’s.
3. Show our Like/Dislike for certain minis or game aspects.
4. Speculation.
then there's me...
5. Profound conversations held in the chat window.
sorry, but also beside the point. First of all I dont think we all lack some maturity just because we've chosen to play a miniature based strategy game instead of using cigarettes, alcohol or drugs as a means to escape from hardships of every day life. The same goes for using the minis for roleplaying purposes. Roleplaying is also constantly attacked by so called "mature people" as being a waste of time or as being immature. But I cannot see whats immature in using your imagination...
Anyhow, what I called immaturity was freaking out when a mini set is not exactly what you had wished for. That is a kind of stubborn subjectivity which has little to do with the child in all of us, which I agree should be upheld until old age.
I disagree (I think)... (after starting this response I'm no longer certain). RPG/minis etc. are quite immature and should never be used to substute cigarettes, alcohol or drugs as a means to escape from hardships of every day life. If you need that, then be like Sebastein Bach and take up model trains.
Cheers,
-kid
PS for the record, I hope NB will be good enough... I'm sick of looking at that toungue. | |
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| Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/10/2007 10:34 AM |
| Clearly you have no concept of humor and clearly you do care, seeing as how 8.3% of your posts on this site are in this thread. People that know me know that while I do think that UH was the worst set ever, I do admit that it had pieces that were good, just not enough to justify any major purchase. With the price increase, I expected to be able to see some sort of return from it. I saw that return in Blood War and it vanished with Unhallowed.
I have never called anyone at Wizards incompetent. Feel free to interpret what I say how you will, but please don't put words into my mouth that I didn't say. They make decisions I don't agree with many times, many of which I will probably never fathom the reasons for, but my saying that I think that some of those decisions stink has nothing to do with anyone's competence.
Everyone lacks objectivity. We're human, subjectivity is what we do. Our opinions make us who we are. If you think you can look at something completely objectively with absolutely no bias, then you're fooling yourself.
I am not and was not freaking out. I came to a public community where opinions are freely expressed and I expressed mine, as have you. Unlike you, I have bashed inanimate objects and not someone personally. If I don't like what someone has to say, I don't read it. It's quite simple really.
As for the JuJu zombie comment, I don't expect it to be made. That is the point of me squiring it. I want it, as with the scarecrow Golem and Dispater, but I doubt any of them will see the light of day. If I wanted 57 vindications in my sig, I would just take easy stuff that we'll see for sure.
You ask how my changing my avatar to show my distaste helps? It lets WotC people like Shoe and Linae who are nice enough to come here that I was unhappy with their product. If no one voices their displeasure at something, how will they know there is any?
Yack had the right of it. It was a joke thread. Take it with a grain of salt and a tongue in your cheek. Perhaps I should've specified that from the get go. I assumed people would get it. Clearly, I was mistaken. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
| Man of Renown
Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 05/10/2007 11:16 AM |
| Gallandv said:
In the end IMO you come to a forum like this for one of four reasons 1. Early looks at fuzzy pictures to get an idea of how this current set is stacking up.
2. Discuss tactics and warband’s. 3. Show our Like/Dislike for certain minis or game aspects. 4. Speculation.
Thekidxii added
5. Profound conversations held in the chat window
Ultimately, I come here for some measure of all of these reasons.
1. I read more than I post to these, mainly because I'm such a horrible guesser
2. Again, I read more than I post in skirmish, mainly because I only know 1 person locally who plays....there is no scene here.
3. We all know I do a lot of this. Ultimately, I complain because I love the game and really want the best for it. My best may not coincide with your best, but it's all in good fun usually.
4. I love reading speculation and Shoe is the master of confounding us at every turn. He has to enjoy tormenting us at every turn.
5. I'm always chatting here. Chat rocks. I've made some very good friends here that I wouldn't have made otherwise and Lyus loves when we all start talking drums | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
-Jimgang
So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay?
Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end?
Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin.
-Sumerias Fain. | |
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