ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
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Central Coast AUSTRALIA
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| ebay: Wizards of the what?
WoTC: Coast, man, COAST!
ebay: who???
WoTC: Ergh! Forget it! | |
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SYB
Warrior
328 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 5:26 AM |
| I wouldn't bid on this. If the seller does actually have the merchandise, it is clearly stolen property. Buying stolen property can get you in a mess of trouble. Though, as someone mentioned, it is probably academic. WotC will get the auction pulled within a few hours.
-SYB
Edit: I just reported the items as stolen merchandise. I encourage others on this site to do so too. | |
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Gallandv
Sneak
73 Posts
Lafayette, La.
| | 05/11/2007 5:54 AM |
| Edit: I just reported the items as stolen merchandise. I encourage others on this site to do so too. I would think that would be something for WoTC to do.
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 05/11/2007 5:55 AM |
| To some extent I don't see how having this information prior to a release is a huge deal. If the set sux0rs, then it might affect presales, surely, but if they are continuing to put out quality products, what harm is there in knowing what minis will be included? It should only increase excitement about the set.
Truly I say to you: Leaks are only harmful if the product is bad. In that case, WotC would have only themselves to blame.
(And, in a sense, we should be pissed because WotC is keeping things quiet in order to get us to buy sub-par product.)
PS. And if you want to include more LG rares, WotC, look no further than the PHB! Just give the minis new spells or abilities. An orc is an orc is an orc... but a fighter can be many things depending on the feats he chooses. We need more LG rares. Just because it ain't in the Monster Manual doesn't mean you can't put it in DDM! Sheesh.
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 6:12 AM |
| There is no way that auction makes it to completion, but I'll bet someone makes off with those minis, now that the seller has email contacts with several interested parties the only real thing Ebay does by closing the auction is lose its commission.
Chinese autorities are not very likely to persue the matter.
This is easily the earliest that I have seen a set list, and I gotta say it is pretty sweet. Put me down for at least a case. Many classic monsters and a low number of setting specific pieces that have limited uses.
Didn't see the Aspect of Loviatar. Didn't see that one coming. A scantily clad giant bondage chickis not exactly family fare. Maybe she is toned down a little and can be used as a generic female giant.
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 6:17 AM |
| Posted By ScruffyRanger on 05/11/2007 3:41 AM
No, my intent was not to be disrespectful...I didn't suggest people's heads will explode or roll Perhaps not, but "looks like chicky's head is just gonna have to pop" was disrespectful.
And for the record, my head has not popped. | |
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
361 Posts
Central Coast AUSTRALIA
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lurkinglidda: That's sweet, dude. You know... I was prepared to time travel to see that it didn't pop also, so you were never in any real danger. For the record too, I think you have a very nice head  | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/11/2007 6:21 AM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 6:17 AM
And for the record, my head has not popped. Good to hear. I can't imagine that the annual major spoiler (DQ greenbacks came out a year ago) is helping anyone's stress level.
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 05/11/2007 6:37 AM |
| [Spoiler]
What's the brown thing between the Frost Giant Jarl and the Salamander?, I mean, not the one with the axe, but the one right behind. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/11/2007 6:40 AM |
| Posted By Mjollnir on 05/11/2007 6:37 AM
[Spoiler]
What's the brown thing between the Frost Giant Jarl and the Salamander?, I mean, not the one with the axe, but the one right behind. Hazarding a guess I'd say you're seeing the Otyugh's tentacles and the Flesh Golem's arm.
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 6:44 AM |
| Posted By BoloBaby on 05/11/2007 3:06 AM
Shouldn't you be busy updating your site right about now...? Heh. ;-)
I was actually heading to bed and decided to check the site for more spam when I saw Auramancer's post... needless to say I'm as giddy as a kid in a toy shop. I'm glad Lidda's not upset. | |
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 05/11/2007 6:45 AM |
| Nope - that's not what he's refering to. He's talking abou tthe thing with the white stripe down it's back. It also appears in on the left side in the back near the Guardian Naga.
Looks werewolfish, but - not knowing for sure - I'd say Greater Barghest.
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 05/11/2007 6:46 AM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 05/11/2007 6:44 AM Posted By BoloBaby on 05/11/2007 3:06 AM
Shouldn't you be busy updating your site right about now...? Heh. ;-)
I was actually heading to bed and decided to check the site for more spam when I saw Auramancer's post... needless to say I'm as giddy as a kid in a toy shop. I'm glad Lidda's not upset.
She didn't say that she wasn't upset, only that her head hasn't popped.
It could very well be swollen three sizes too big at this moment, however. ;-)
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/11/2007 6:47 AM |
| Posted By BoloBaby on 05/11/2007 6:45 AM
Nope - that's not what he's refering to. He's talking abou tthe thing with the white stripe down it's back. It also appears in on the left side in the back near the Guardian Naga.
Looks werewolfish, but - not knowing for sure - I'd say Greater Barghest
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Sean-Khan
Commander
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 7:10 AM |
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Wow
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
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| Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 6:17 AM Posted By ScruffyRanger on 05/11/2007 3:41 AM
No,
my intent was not to be disrespectful...I didn't suggest people's heads
will explode or roll Perhaps not, but "looks like chicky's head is
just gonna have to pop" was disrespectful. And for the record, my head has not popped.
I imagine this leak, and in particular the sale, is unwelcome news for you, but if it is any consolation the set looks awesome.
Leaks, and possible thefts, are outside your direct control. What you
guys do control - creating the minis - you did a bang-up job on.
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Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. ~ Terry Pratchett | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/11/2007 7:22 AM |
| Agree with Sulaco: this set looks great.
And this leak does not harm your sales imho. all production figures and no misleading pictures which can lead to angry buyers. It's simply great stuff.
D. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6843 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/11/2007 7:49 AM |
| | Wow, I'm going to be late for work now. I have never seen a leak this bad before. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3463 Posts
Netherlands
| | 05/11/2007 7:56 AM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 05/11/2007 7:49 AM
Wow, I'm going to be late for work now. I have never seen a leak this good before.
Changed your post a bit,
D.
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Ryoga
Underboss
1124 Posts
Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
| | 05/11/2007 7:59 AM |
| This set look awesome!!! Thanks GreyHaze!!! I really hope that LE arise his power from ashes.... Its time for LE??? I hope soo
LOOKS GREAT!
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Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :(
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 05/11/2007 8:00 AM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 05/11/2007 7:18 AM Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 6:17 AM Posted By ScruffyRanger on 05/11/2007 3:41 AM
No, my intent was not to be disrespectful...I didn't suggest people's heads will explode or roll Perhaps not, but "looks like chicky's head is just gonna have to pop" was disrespectful. And for the record, my head has not popped. I imagine this leak, and in particular the sale, is unwelcome news for you, but if it is any consolation the set looks awesome. Leaks, and possible thefts, are outside your direct control. What you guys do control - creating the minis - you did a bang-up job on.
Lidda, I agree with Sulaco - my condolences on the set getting leaked, but WOW you guys did a great job. I'm very glad that I'm buying a case of these... | |
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"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 53 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten x3
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berus316
Sergeant
663 Posts
Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 05/11/2007 8:10 AM |
| I'll echo a lot of the statements, of "sorry about the leak" but hell what a great set.
I've done the math and this is a 4 Case set for me, maybe even a 5.
Absolutely tickled pink and know I'm going to be broke in July.
Way to go Wizards.
I love the Brass Golem and the Shadow, just plain awesome.
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yack
Commander
3321 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 05/11/2007 8:17 AM |
| Its pure and simple leaks help sells.... at least for me I now know I want a case or least 2.
Sorry Lidda... you guys did a awesome job on the set!!!! | |
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 8:21 AM |
| I'll echo Sulaco's sentiment.
You guys did a great job with this set and seeing these spoilers early only makes me likely to buy more of them.
Can't say that I am sorry to see this list, but I do have some sympathy for the WOTC staff.
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 05/11/2007 8:28 AM |
| | Anyone else notice that this isn't the full set? There are 2 of the warrior in plate with the green plume, 2 Mind Flayers, and no Scorrow? | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 53 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten x3
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Gallandv
Sneak
73 Posts
Lafayette, La.
| | 05/11/2007 8:29 AM |
| Ok I must say after looking over the set this will be one of those rare, at least recently, times when I will buy multiple cases. If the leak wouldn’t have happened I wouldn’t have had time to save up for this set. So the leak actually allows me to buy more come release. I know WoTC will not be happy with it being released in the way it was but in the end I think it will help their cause by a lot.  Like so many stated before me, I’m thankful for the headstart in getting my money together for a large purchase. | | | |
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Zoons
Underboss
1067 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 8:38 AM |
| There should be no reward for poor behavior.Â
I'm rooting for litigation for a change. Perhaps the poor sot who thinks he'll get delivery from an obvious thief, and pays for this offer will be the only one to get justice. But I can hope for more. | |
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 8:50 AM |
| Posted By ScruffyRanger on 05/11/2007 6:21 AM lurkinglidda: That's sweet, dude...For the record too, I think you have a very nice head
@ All who appreciate the spoiler: Glad to see you like what's out there so far. It's frustrating that our efforts to build excitement have been stolen away from us, but encouraging that you like the set. Bittersweet you could say.
However...the individual who stole the property will definitely fail their morale check. I almost feel sorry for the dude.
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sage_raistlin
Sergeant
377 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 8:51 AM |
| | Finally I have a reason to log in. I must say over all, looks good. Some reprints that are badly needed Medusa's yeah. I just need to sit done with the old monster manuals and figure out the encounter sizes on all these new figures and get my order eady to place with Auggie's. | |
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TheChuck
Warrior
333 Posts
Mississippi, USA
| | 05/11/2007 8:57 AM |
| Posted By Zoons on 05/11/2007 8:38 AM
There should be no reward for poor behavior.Â
I'm rooting for litigation for a change. Perhaps the poor sot who thinks he'll get delivery from an obvious thief, and pays for this offer will be the only one to get justice. But I can hope for more.Â
I actually agree with you. The simple fact that this fella apparently stole a copy of each production mini ought to be punished to the fullest extent. And any idiot who bids on this ought to be smacked around a bit I think. Buying obviously stolen goods makes very little sense.
On the other hand, the leak is good for sales of the set I think. Since people can have a look at the entire set now, they can see that it does indeed look fantastic. If sets in the future continue to look this good, and as good as Blood War was, then DDM has a secure future.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 05/11/2007 8:59 AM |
| @Lidda- I'm glad you guys do know the culprit. If it's any condolences, this is looking like a top 3 set ever. I will definitely be getting an extra case over my initial order.
Wow, just... WOW.
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Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
Calgary, AB, Canada
| | 05/11/2007 9:06 AM |
| Posted By SYB on 05/11/2007 5:26 AM
I just reported the items as stolen merchandise. I encourage others on this site to do so too.
Reported as well.
LurkingLidda - Sorry to see your hard work go for naught  My purchace plans remain unchanged (1 Case + 2Booster-pre-release).
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 9:08 AM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 8:50 AM
However...the individual who stole the property will definitely fail their morale check. I almost feel sorry for the dude.
Fitting, since he already failed his moral check.
Sorry, I cannot resist a good pun. 
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Thailfi
Sergeant
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 9:50 AM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 05/11/2007 9:08 AM Fitting, since he already failed his moral check. Sorry, I cannot resist a good pun.  | |
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 05/11/2007 10:10 AM |
| The set looks interesting from a *figs* standpoint. Having gotten into DDM late(r), I'm glad for some of the reprints.
From a skirmish standpoint, we still don't know if this set is a winner. Could blow monkey-chunks, BUT from the previews we have gotten, the skirmish stats sounded good. There's also that recent trend towards making dragons viable, etc.
Since Lidda seems to be reading this thread: please, please, please make more LG rares! I use the figs for both RPG and skirmish, but I have chosen to focus on LG and CE for skirmish. Since rarity is often comparable to power, the fewer the rares, the less likely to get worthy LG figs.
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ShivanWurm
Sergeant
500 Posts
| | 05/11/2007 10:21 AM |
| WOAH! Interesting to say the least.
Only 2 epics listed? | |
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Gallandv
Sneak
73 Posts
Lafayette, La.
| | 05/11/2007 10:27 AM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 8:50 AM @ All who appreciate the spoiler: Glad to see you like what's out there so far. It's frustrating that our efforts to build excitement have been stolen away from us, but encouraging that you like the set. Bittersweet you could say.
I actually am more excited getting a big lump then I am getting the drug out previews that are now offered. The previews are better then nothing, mind you, but I prefer to know well in advance how I need to plan my money. Right now I plan on only buying singles so there is no down side in me knowing a set is less then desirable to me. Knowing so much is desirable, like this set, lets me plan to buy cases. I must say I am very excited about this set. My praise goes to the design team. Its not often you hear so much positive praise in a set and I’m glad to see it. Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 8:50 AM However...the individual who stole the property will definitely fail their morale check. I almost feel sorry for the dude.
My love for seeing the minis in no way gives an excuse to the guy that stole them. I do think that if you can find out whom and the government there allows you to prosecute then by all means take it to him. Since he is probably an employee he is looking at jail and a loss of his/her job. In the end thats what stealing from your company gets you. | | | |
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DinoBen
Sergeant
412 Posts
Based outta Games of Berkeley, CA
| | 05/11/2007 10:49 AM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 05/11/2007 8:50 AM
@ All who appreciate the spoiler: Glad to see you like what's out there so far. It's frustrating that our efforts to build excitement have been stolen away from us, but encouraging that you like the set. Bittersweet you could say.
The set does look great, but not all is lost regarding efforts to build excitement... let me explain.
All we have are two pictures with a bunch of minis clumped together. Besides the dragon and giant, finding particular minis is almost like those Where's Waldo books! Some are clearly pictured and future Previews won't do much for those of us who've seen the spoiler pictures. Some of us, me included, however, will really enjoy and be excited about the upcoming Previews because they'll give us a better look at many of the obscured minis and tell us a bit about them! So, don't let the spoilers get you down and bring on those Previews, the community will continue to enjoy them!
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