basic_aim Sneak
 172 Posts



 London ON. Canada
 | | 05/30/2007 6:59 PM |
| Virtuous Charger Â
Cost 177
Attacks +19/+14 (20 magic/15 Magic)
Level 11
Speed 12
ACÂ 21
HPÂ 185
S A
Aura of Protection from Evil This creature and Adjacent creatures get +2 AC against evil creatures DR 5 Evil Foe +5 (Damage +5 against Evil creatures) Immune Confusion,Dominate,Poison Enhanced Mobility 12 ( This creaure can move up to 12 squares and use all of it's attacks) Skirmish attack +10 (Damage +10 if this creatures moves at least 2 squares this turn) Resist 10 Acid,Cold,Electricity Spell Resistance Trample 20 (can move through 1 smaller enemy's space to deal 15 damage DC 21)
SPELLS 4th-Holy Smite [ ] (sight, radius 4,20 damage to evil creatures or 25 damage to to Evil Outsiders DC 16)
3rd-searing light [ ] [ ] (sight 10 damage or 20 damage against undead)
1st-remove fear [ ] [ ] (range 6, automatically raly routing creature)
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Temysry Sergeant
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 05/30/2007 7:06 PM |
| dammit..... lo que faltaba.... more epics for the "weak" epic factions... great WoTC, you do the things soo good...
| | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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Richard II Commander
 3663 Posts




 | | 05/30/2007 7:06 PM |
| | Better than the wizard of turmish, but still not all that great. | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 05/30/2007 7:06 PM |
| | Stinky! | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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 Bert the Troll Commander
 3964 Posts



 Adelaide
 | | 05/30/2007 7:14 PM |
| Doesnt look very awe inspiring at first glance. I assume powerful charge 20 would be 20 damage nt 15 though.
Hopefully it kept its heal and remove posion. Starnge for a unicorn not to have them.
| | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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juanchoquinche Sneak
 161 Posts



 colombia/bogota
 | | 05/30/2007 7:27 PM |
| | the epic card is good for me but what happen with epic of orcus, bane and demogron and the older epics? | | called shot: dungeon of dread: medium bronze dragon desert desolation: sand giant champion champion of zelekhut | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 05/30/2007 7:40 PM |
| Posted By juanchoquinche on 05/30/2007 7:27 PM the epic card is good for me but what happen with epic of orcus, bane and demogron and the older epics?
Give it about 10 months.
llmll 666th post!!! llmll
| | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 05/30/2007 8:03 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/30/2007 7:40 PM Posted By juanchoquinche on 05/30/2007 7:27 PM the epic card is good for me but what happen with epic of orcus, bane and demogron and the older epics? Give it about 10 months. llmll 666th post!!! llmll Hey Wraith... this looks soo evil.... =S maybe the evil inside you is furious because this stat card...
| | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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evildani Sneak
 111 Posts




 | | 05/30/2007 8:43 PM |
| I think this epic is great, very very intresting...imagine the posibilities... I will miss the cure spell though.. The attack bonus is a little low, the AC is low for epic, but can fit 2 in a warband, plus storm, and you have a very good fighting force.
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MuscledDestroyer Sergeant
 435 Posts



 Prospect Park, Pa
 | | 05/30/2007 8:50 PM |
| Oh farts! | | Champion of Grape Juice. Its delicious. | |
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Username Warlord
 5692 Posts




 | | 05/30/2007 9:07 PM |
| | I'll take 2 please. | | Originally posted by Schooly_D Username - he deals in minis Champion of Lhesh Haruuc Shaarat'kor | |
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Autoxdsm Sergeant
 814 Posts



 Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 05/30/2007 9:36 PM |
| | Trample + Skirmish Attack is cool. | | Champion of the Brainstealer Dragon Desert of Desolation Called Shot: Medium Brown Dragon ***Winner of WBC VIII and XII*** | |
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Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 12507 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 05/30/2007 11:26 PM |
| | Epic Virtuous Charger looks playable. Might even be competitive against evil factions. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 05/31/2007 12:14 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 05/30/2007 11:26 PM Epic Virtuous Charger looks playable. Might even be competitive against evil factions.
Against evil, I can see it.....against LG, no way. The main problem with epic is a few overpowering pieces...remove them and lots of things become more competitive. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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MAURIZIO Sergeant
 960 Posts



 Lima, Perú
 | | 05/31/2007 1:05 AM |
| I like this, but what about Epic wizard of turmish???
Sooooooo Bad miniature to be rare for 200 pts skirmish and epic! | | Againts the Giants Called Shot: Cattie Bri. Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cockatrice. Todas las batallas en la vida sirven para enseñarnos algo, inclusive aquellas que perdemos. Paulo Coehlo "DnD teaches you a valuable lesson, always loot the bodies of your dead enemies"
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 05/31/2007 3:23 AM |
| Epic Virtuous Charger.  Boo hiss. Boo hiss.Â  
 | | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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Pedro Commander
 3926 Posts



 Czech Republic
 | | 05/31/2007 4:37 AM |
| | Nothing super, but I will sure try it. | | 2007 & 2008 Czech Republic Champion 2008 Czech Republic's Player of the Year
2.0 Champion of Necromancers! (preferably not Evil:-)) Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok... Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix (/no luck) Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth (I like demons!) Feywild Called Shot: Starter 2009 Called Shot: | |
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lingster Sergeant
 778 Posts




 | | 05/31/2007 5:38 AM |
| Bottom three epics I've seen so far...
Lord of Blades Wizard of Turnips Virtuous Charger
Not in that order.
Can't we get EPICS that people WANT? I'm sure there were other figures in Unhallowed that could have used EPIC status instead. Like:
War Wizard Large Black Dragon Large Brass Dragon Beholder Lich!! Tsucora Quori
to name a few! | | May you find peace and happiness at the hand of Hextor.
Champion of Black Pudding Called Shot Desert of Desolation: Drider - VINDICATED! Called Shot Demonweb: Drow Cleric of Lloth Called Shot FeyWild: Water Nymph (06-26-08)
Member of Team Millennium
4E takes away our Big Bad Evil Guy (BBEG) and give us this:
The Big Bad Mis-Understood But Not Quite Inherently Evil Who Does Naughty Things Guy (BBMUBNQIEWDNTG for short) | |
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jacksonm Warlord
 5560 Posts



 River City
 | | 05/31/2007 6:00 AM |
| Not too bad, certainly better than the last one.  | | | |
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Dordledum Commander
 3463 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/31/2007 7:13 AM |
| all abilities are cool, but the cost is way too high,
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10493 Posts


 United States
 | | 05/31/2007 7:18 AM |
| People complain about quite a few epic cards that get posted. Now, admittedly, some of them stink (i.e. Lord of Blades). But, this brings me to some questions.
1) How many epic games do you actually play? 2) If there were more really good epic figures, would you play more epic games?
Here are my answers (time to be honest).
1) I haven't played many since GenCon last year, I think. I judged one tournament of 15 players, so I did some testing to help some of the locals beforehand. 2) Probably not.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Dordledum Commander
 3463 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/31/2007 7:32 AM |
| as an anwer to Daves question:
1. none sofar 2. probably not either
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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iluvxtina Underboss
 1501 Posts



 Spain
 | | 05/31/2007 7:33 AM |
| | At least is a better epic card than archmage and nerull.My god,I think they must be drunk when they made these cards | | LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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Raland Sergeant
 924 Posts




 | | 05/31/2007 7:37 AM |
| | Hmm, I guess Epic consists of 25% of my games.  More good Epics might not increase the amount of epic I play, but will increase the amount of Variety I see within the games I do play. Epic play has become very stagnant. | | Champion of the Kender ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007" Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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jacksonm Warlord
 5560 Posts



 River City
 | | 05/31/2007 7:41 AM |
| Hmmmm... in answer to the questions.
1) I don't think I've played one since October or November.
2) I might play more if the variety was higher in competative bands. | | | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 05/31/2007 8:19 AM |
| Posted By juanchoquinche on 05/30/2007 7:27 PM what happen with epic of orcus, bane and demogron and the older epics? I wouldn't recommend holding your breath. You'll likely asphyxiate.
Another in the long series of Meh OP epic cards. Not that I care one way or the other 
| | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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kbales Warrior
 296 Posts



 Edmonton, Alberta
 | | 05/31/2007 9:21 AM |
| Posted By lingster on 05/31/2007 5:38 AM Bottom three epics I've seen so far...
Lord of Blades Wizard of Turnips Virtuous Charger
Is there an epic card for wizard of turmish? If so, I totally missed that one.
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 05/31/2007 9:46 AM |
| Posted By kbales on 05/31/2007 9:21 AM Posted By lingster on 05/31/2007 5:38 AM Bottom three epics I've seen so far...
Lord of Blades Wizard of Turnips Virtuous Charger
Is there an epic card for wizard of turmish? If so, I totally missed that one. Hahahaha lol, Its soo bad to be forgotten... EPIC WoT is one of the worse, but no one wins to Lord of Blades.

| | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 05/31/2007 10:27 AM |
| Meh. nothing to write home about, but looks like some fun stuff.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 05/31/2007 10:27 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 05/31/2007 7:18 AM
1) How many epic games do you actually play? 2) If there were more really good epic figures, would you play more epic games?
Dave 1. Epic play makes up nearly 1/2 of the fun games I play with buddies, but we typically play no Bahamut, no Tordek and no Storm Archer/Ghaele. After all, they're fun games, not see who gets crushed in 2 rounds. Without the couple of over the top pieces, it's amazing what has the potential to be competitive.
2. It may sound harsh, but I'm almost to the point where I'd rather see a couple of pieces banned than I would all of the new stuff be on the Tordek/Bahamut level. WotDQ did more harm than good to the meta as far as I'm concerned.
| | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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Pedro Commander
 3926 Posts



 Czech Republic
 | | 05/31/2007 11:04 AM |
| Posted By Raland on 05/31/2007 7:37 AM Hmm, I guess Epic consists of 25% of my games.  More good Epics might not increase the amount of epic I play, but will increase the amount of Variety I see within the games I do play. Epic play has become very stagnant. Exactly, except my number is a little higher. | | 2007 & 2008 Czech Republic Champion 2008 Czech Republic's Player of the Year
2.0 Champion of Necromancers! (preferably not Evil:-)) Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok... Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix (/no luck) Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth (I like demons!) Feywild Called Shot: Starter 2009 Called Shot: | |
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6637 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 05/31/2007 2:49 PM |
| | so so sad and i thought preview 6 was bleak! | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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ScruffyRanger Sergeant
 361 Posts



 Central Coast AUSTRALIA
 | | 05/31/2007 5:20 PM |
| | Oh well... there's always next month. | | ScruffyRanger's Promo Page! Check it out here!
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MAURIZIO Sergeant
 960 Posts



 Lima, Perú
 | | 05/31/2007 7:24 PM |
| | I hope next month WotC put something retro, but maybe they put something from new expansion Night Below, I hope not! | | Againts the Giants Called Shot: Cattie Bri. Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cockatrice. Todas las batallas en la vida sirven para enseñarnos algo, inclusive aquellas que perdemos. Paulo Coehlo "DnD teaches you a valuable lesson, always loot the bodies of your dead enemies"
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vanrulzz Commander
 2778 Posts



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| Posted By Wraithborne on 05/31/2007 10:27 AM Posted By Vrecknidj on 05/31/2007 7:18 AM
1) How many epic games do you actually play? 2) If there were more really good epic figures, would you play more epic games?
Dave 1. Epic play makes up nearly 1/2 of the fun games I play with buddies, but we typically play no Bahamut, no Tordek and no Storm Archer/Ghaele. After all, they're fun games, not see who gets crushed in 2 rounds. Without the couple of over the top pieces, it's amazing what has the potential to be competitive. 2. It may sound harsh, but I'm almost to the point where I'd rather see a couple of pieces banned than I would all of the new stuff be on the Tordek/Bahamut level. WotDQ did more harm than good to the meta as far as I'm concerned. QF-frickin-T. i relate to every word of it.
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 Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
 10152 Posts



 Edinboro PA
 | | 05/31/2007 11:53 PM |
| | Not totally unplayable...not great either | | | |
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CoyoteNomad Sneak
 87 Posts



 Portland, OR
 | | 06/01/2007 5:55 PM |
| | Out of curiosity, why does Trample 20 do 15 damage? | | | |
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 06/01/2007 7:09 PM |
| Posted By CoyoteNomad on 06/01/2007 5:55 PM Out of curiosity, why does Trample 20 do 15 damage?
It'll have to have some sort ot errata, as that's how it is on the card. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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shazam01 Warrior
 230 Posts




 | | 06/01/2007 11:21 PM |
| Kind of middle of the road, not the best not the worst. as for the questions posed: 1) not very many 2)possibly but not for certain | | Champion of Minsc & Boo
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