basic_aim
Sneak
172 Posts
    
London ON. Canada
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| The one in the preview is much sweeter looking by far so here's the questions.
1) Is the one from the preview a pre production mini or is it the real deal?
2) Could the ebay pic be from a first production run that the minis stil need to be tweaked?
Will the real deal please stand up
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 6:59 AM |
| | The only difference I see is picture size. I don't know how you think either mini's counterpart looks any different otherwise. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 7:20 AM |
| Ah, he linked to my site before the change... sorry, the images got updated, if you like I can email them to you...
actually I'll do you one better. Add -old.jpg instead of .jpg to your links (that's dash "o-l-d") and it will work.
*sigh* ok, I'll do it...
 
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 7:23 AM |
| | Honestly I don't see a big difference between the spoiler pics and the images that were previewed for either the brass golem or basalisk. The lighting / paint tone of the preview is nicer, but otherwise they look the same to me. | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 7:41 AM |
| They show both production minis and masters in the previews but I'm pretty sure the ...and beyond minis are always paint masters.
And IMO the Ebay spoilers were mostly rejects and minis not quite up to snuff that someone probably fished out of the trash or took home instead of throwing away. | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
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| | 06/08/2007 7:46 AM |
| Yeah, I'd bet they are the extreme ends, and we'll see something in the middle.
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 06/08/2007 8:03 AM |
| I do not see the other Brass Golem for comparisson.  On the other hand, the Greater Basilisk looks the same to me.  
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vanrulzz
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2778 Posts
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| Posted By Sirohk on 06/08/2007 8:03 AM I do not see the other Brass Golem for comparisson.  On the other hand, the Greater Basilisk looks the same to me.  
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me niether and me too. I think the Brass Golem had better look as kewl as the preview. | | | |
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
661 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 06/08/2007 10:08 AM |
| | I have to agree: I hope the brass golem is an uncommon; it's something I could handle a few of and really don't want it taking up a rare slot. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/08/2007 10:25 AM |
| For me, the brass golem is good enough for a rare slot. It's not going to see a lot of play, even though it is very cool looking. I won't be sad by a long shot if it's uncommon, though.  | |
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 12:04 PM |
| Posted By maijstral on 06/08/2007 7:41 AM
They show both production minis and masters in the previews but I'm pretty sure the ...and beyond minis are always paint masters.     Â
Said it before, but it bears repeating:
Unless expressly pointed out that we are using a paint master you can be sure that what you are viewing in our articles are production figures. This has been the case for the better part of a year now.
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 12:11 PM |
| | woohoo- then that's a seriously cool looking golem you've got there! Can't wait to get my hands on it. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/08/2007 12:22 PM |
| | Thanks for the reminder. This makes it even better for me. | |
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Autoxdsm
Sergeant
814 Posts
Myrtle Beach, SC
| | 06/08/2007 12:30 PM |
| | If we got that Dull looking golem as a rare I would be mad. The polished brass looks way better. | |
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Thousandsofminis
Warrior
269 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 12:40 PM |
| any confirmation on if the article is correct on the rarity Lurkinglidda?
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GuJiaXian
Sergeant
661 Posts
Roswell, GA
| | 06/08/2007 12:57 PM |
| | I still hope it's an uncommon, but if that polished look is actually how it'll look right out of a pack, that's pretty sweet. | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/08/2007 1:27 PM |
| Basilisk looks identical. The production golem from the preview looks substantially better than the whatever? golem from the ebay auction.
Knowing my luck the golems I get will have 3 times as much blackwash on them thus ruining their awesomeness  | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 06/08/2007 1:31 PM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 06/08/2007 12:04 PM Posted By maijstral on 06/08/2007 7:41 AM
They show both production minis and masters in the previews but I'm pretty sure the ...and beyond minis are always paint masters.     Â
Said it before, but it bears repeating: Unless expressly pointed out that we are using a paint master you can be sure that what you are viewing in our articles are production figures. This has been the case for the better part of a year now.
So, we should understand by that afirmation that the Brass Golem is a rare and not finally an uncommon, shouldn't we?
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LCS
Underboss
1928 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 2:18 PM |
| Posted By Mjollnir on 06/08/2007 1:31 PM
So, we should understand by that afirmation that the Brass Golem is a rare and not finally an uncommon, shouldn't we?
Lidda didn't say anything about the rarity of the minis, so all we know is that either the checklist or the preview was wrong. | | | |
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 06/08/2007 3:21 PM |
| Posted By LCS on 06/08/2007 2:18 PM Posted By Mjollnir on 06/08/2007 1:31 PM
So, we should understand by that afirmation that the Brass Golem is a rare and not finally an uncommon, shouldn't we?
Lidda didn't say anything about the rarity of the minis, so all we know is that either the checklist or the preview was wrong.
I know she didn't. It's just a possible conclusion from her words. Anyway, we have an official position in "June and Beyond" article which should be the closest one to truth.
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Vendelphian
Warrior
212 Posts
Flint, Mi
| | 06/08/2007 4:04 PM |
| | picture quality and the angle of the pics will have a lot to do with the difference in their "finish" | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/08/2007 5:43 PM |
| | I would trust the site over a leaked checklist. Or, has there been any examples of where the previews have been wrong to make it less credible than an unveriiable source? | |
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Ridureyu
Underboss
1622 Posts
| | 06/08/2007 5:45 PM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 06/08/2007 12:04 PM Posted By maijstral on 06/08/2007 7:41 AM
They show both production minis and masters in the previews but I'm pretty sure the ...and beyond minis are always paint masters.     Â
Said it before, but it bears repeating: Unless expressly pointed out that we are using a paint master you can be sure that what you are viewing in our articles are production figures. This has been the case for the better part of a year now.
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Wolfgang
Warlord
6627 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/08/2007 7:34 PM |
| | I think they both look sweet! | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/08/2007 10:58 PM |
| | The preview pics look alot better. | | | |
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
11113 Posts
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| | 06/08/2007 11:03 PM |
| | They both look pretty good. Lightning definatly has quite a bit to do with it. Even if the Golem turns out a little less shiney than the preview pic I'll still love it. | |
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sage_raistlin
Sergeant
377 Posts
| | 06/09/2007 10:07 AM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 06/08/2007 5:43 PM
I would trust the site over a leaked checklist. Or, has there been any examples of where the previews have been wrong to make it less credible than an unveriiable source?
I seem to recall at one time there was an error on the rarity of figures and it was corrected in a later post on WOTC site. I can't remember the figure, but I seem to remember it was listed as an uncommon in the preview that was a rare in the set. They updated the posting a couple of days/hours later with the correct info. | |
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 06/09/2007 10:22 AM |
| Posted By Mjollnir on 06/08/2007 1:31 PM So, we should understand by that afirmation that the Brass Golem is a rare and not finally an uncommon, shouldn't we?
To tell the truth, I avoid looking at rarities and stats until the set is released. I prefer to keep the spoilers I have access to at a minimum. That way I enjoy release day as much as everyone else, and I'm less likely to accidentally let something slip.
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MechaKingGhidra
Sergeant
632 Posts
| | 06/09/2007 10:41 AM |
| | Ah, like the plane trip to some sort of major event (I forget what it was, especially seeing that it is not like I, personally, attended or anything of the like) that led to assumptions based on what you had said during the flight? | |
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lurkinglidda
Warrior
231 Posts
| | 06/09/2007 12:00 PM |
| | Yah, like that. I'm not very clever at dropping veiled hints. That's Shoe's realm. I'm pretty much a what-you-see-is-what-you-get sort of gal. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/09/2007 8:42 PM |
| Posted By sage_raistlin on 06/09/2007 10:07 AM
I seem to recall at one time there was an error on the rarity of figures and it was corrected in a later post on WOTC site. I can't remember the figure, but I seem to remember it was listed as an uncommon in the preview that was a rare in the set. They updated the posting a couple of days/hours later with the correct info. Thanks for the info. With this, I'd definitely trust the website over something that you cannot in any way trust or verify.
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Mjollnir
Underboss
1500 Posts
Canary Islands - Spain
| | 06/10/2007 2:06 AM |
| Posted By lurkinglidda on 06/09/2007 12:00 PM
Yah, like that. I'm not very clever at dropping veiled hints. That's Shoe's realm. I'm pretty much a what-you-see-is-what-you-get sort of gal. Wow, Lidda! 
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 06/11/2007 8:15 AM |
| I guess we'll all have to wait and see...
But if the preview is right, then something else on the list is wrong too...
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/11/2007 1:20 PM |
| Remember rule 3 of the spoiler policy:
3) Spoilers are often erroneous in some way.
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/11/2007 1:46 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 06/11/2007 1:20 PM
Remember rule 3 of the spoiler policy:
3) Spoilers are often erroneous in some way.
I will bet you cash it's uncommon and the mistake was actually in the preview not the spoiler. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/11/2007 2:30 PM |
| No thanks, I don't like to gamble.
But why would you trust a source you can't verify over the actual company? Teflon Jeff mentioned another mistake on the leak, so it has a higher chance of being wrong. A mistake like this would be caught by now, as the only other error anyone has mentioned was corrected soon afterwards. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 06/11/2007 3:27 PM |
| | Teflon hasn't stated what else is wrong with the checklist, but I'm not using the checklist as my source. Also, the monthly previews are often wrong where the minis are concerned, while the checklist is a direct scan and adds up. Maybe there was a change, but then my other source would also have to be incorrect. | |
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vanrulzz
Commander
2778 Posts
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| | 06/11/2007 4:58 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/11/2007 1:46 PM Posted By gss_000 on 06/11/2007 1:20 PM
Remember rule 3 of the spoiler policy:
3) Spoilers are often erroneous in some way.
I will bet you cash it's uncommon and the mistake was actually in the preview not the spoiler. 
me too. The previews are wrong way more than set lists.
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/11/2007 5:34 PM |
| | So when I asked what was wrong, how ome only one person answered? Can you give me some more instances? | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/11/2007 6:39 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 06/11/2007 5:34 PM
So when I asked what was wrong, how ome only one person answered? Can you give me some more instances?
Large gold dragon damage was wrong from this set of previews, though now changed.
Rarities of huges was incorrectly stated in WoDQ prevews :|
I'm pretty sure other rarites have ben wrong from once or twice before, but would be hard to look for them, as you would expect, errors (like the large gold dragon) are fixed when noticed.
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