Sirohk Commander
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 USA
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Idzy Commander
 3082 Posts



 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
 | | 06/09/2007 7:28 AM |
| | I think everyone that wants to has already seen these but no hurt in posting it here now just in case and to torment ShadowlordXT | | Champion of Champions (for all races! even Gnomes ) Reference Thread Winnipeg Gryphon Cavalry Forums
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 06/09/2007 8:28 AM |
| | WE NEED STATS!!! PLZ!!! :S .... | | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6637 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 06/09/2007 9:10 AM |
| | yes bring on the stats! | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 06/09/2007 11:59 AM |
| | That`list has at least one confirmed error. The Brass Golem is rare, not uncommon. Who knows how many other typos there might be? | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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dumdragon Sergeant
 684 Posts


 Amityville, NY
 | | 06/09/2007 12:21 PM |
| | If the Brass Golem is a rare, then which mini thats listed as rare is a uncommon? | | Email me
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 06/09/2007 12:46 PM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/09/2007 11:59 AM That`list has at least one confirmed error. The Brass Golem is rare, not uncommon. Who knows how many other typos there might be?
The totals match up on the list, 24 rare, 24 Unc and 12 Cs. I think it's equally likely that the error was in the preview(I hope anyway). Otherwise, I'm very curious as to what stepped down to Unc. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 06/09/2007 12:55 PM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/09/2007 11:59 AM That`list has at least one confirmed error. The Brass Golem is rare, not uncommon. Who knows how many other typos there might be?
Has this been confirmed by WotC? | |
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Mjollnir Underboss
 1500 Posts



 Canary Islands - Spain
 | | 06/09/2007 12:57 PM |
| Posted By dumdragon on 06/09/2007 12:21 PM If the Brass Golem is a rare, then which mini thats listed as rare is a uncommon? I hope for Noble Salamander.
| | Champion of the Molydeus Vindicated Blood War Called Shot: Cornugon (Horned Devil) Icons Called Shot: Tarrasque Vindicated Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Mind Flayer Against the Giants Called Shot: Uncommon Fire Giant Demonweb Called Shot: Myrlochar Feywild Called Shot: Molydeus "Sé que me acusan de soberbia, y tal vez de misantropía, y tal vez de locura. Tales acusaciones (que yo castigaré a su debido tiempo) son irrisorias." - Jorge Luis Borges
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PaSquall Underboss
 1399 Posts




 | | 06/09/2007 1:10 PM |
| | Could be flesh golem, or exarch of tyranny, or shadowbane inquisitor. | | Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON (Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 06/09/2007 1:21 PM |
| | Let's assume that the check list is incorrect. They couldn't release it as such, could they? | |
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Alamanther's comeback Sneak
 168 Posts



 Denmark
 | | 06/09/2007 3:30 PM |
| Posted By nyjastul69 on 06/09/2007 1:21 PM Let's assume that the check list is incorrect. They couldn't release it as such, could they?
Why not? I'm more likely to suspect an error in the article than on this set list. It is also worth noting that the brass golem is not particularly complicated - why would it need to be a rare? | | Champion of the Catoblepas | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5132 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 06/09/2007 7:30 PM |
| Posted By Alamanther's comeback on 06/09/2007 3:30 PM It is also worth noting that the brass golem is not particularly complicated - why would it need to be a rare? While not a terribly complicated sculpt, it could be rare due to time invested in paint steps (i.e. making sure that it turns out shiny brass rather than bleh with a blackwash) and/or rare due to skirmish stats. Could also be rare since it isn't a creature that is encountered in large numbers. There are a number of factors that seem to go into rarity decisions.
The only mini I would really like to see dropped from rare to uncommon status would be the Dire Tiger (summonable, found in packs, potential for very good skirmish stats, semi-complicated paintjob).
I actually would prefer the Brass Golem to be uncommon (thus the article being incorrect) since I would like to use them as statues/dungeon dressing 
| | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Zyla Underboss
 1201 Posts




 | | 06/09/2007 10:20 PM |
| Isnt there supposed to be more then 2 Epics? Â Â And since the Large Gold Dragon is Epic, how will it compare to the Huge Gold Dragon? | | | |
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Raland Sergeant
 924 Posts




 | | 06/10/2007 5:30 AM |
| Posted By Zyla on 06/09/2007 10:20 PM And since the Large Gold Dragon is Epic, how will it compare to the Huge Gold Dragon? Â We can hope, playable. | | Champion of the Kender ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007" Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 06/10/2007 6:32 AM |
| Posted By Alamanther's comeback on 06/09/2007 3:30 PM Posted By nyjastul69 on 06/09/2007 1:21 PM Let's assume that the check list is incorrect. They couldn't release it as such, could they? Why not? I'm more likely to suspect an error in the article than on this set list. It is also worth noting that the brass golem is not particularly complicated - why would it need to be a rare?
I use my checklists as part of my inventory process. It's gonna suck if they didn't catch/correct such a simple error. | |
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BoloBaby Sergeant
 640 Posts



 Fort Mill, SC
 | | 06/10/2007 6:33 AM |
| If the Brass Golem is a rare, then I am digging this set even more.
3x Dragons A mounted humanoid A neat looking mounted orc A nice 31 point LG piece Another bodyguard of some type Raistlin Low cost commanders Wulfgar Some nice animal sculpts Ghostly figs Good commons for RPG (prisoner, hobgoblin, for example)
Yeah... this is shaping up to be a great set, imo.
Which is good, because Unhallowed was underwhelming for me, to say the least.
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6637 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 06/10/2007 11:15 AM |
| | yes this set is starting to win me over i am actually looking forward to it | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 7737 Posts




 | | 06/10/2007 1:06 PM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/09/2007 11:59 AM That`list has at least one confirmed error. The Brass Golem is rare, not uncommon. Who knows how many other typos there might be? It is NOT a confirmed error. The preview is as likely to have a typo as the set list scan is. You should not state that the set list scan has a confirmed error when it does not. wtg. As far as I'm concerned, until some one posts a link to an official wotc person saying it is indeed a rare, it's uncommon. | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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Bring_it_On_DDM Sneak
 121 Posts



 Canada
 | | 06/11/2007 7:32 AM |
| | Wow thanks for the scans Shirohk... This set is looking awesome but too much power creep for CG again IMO | | I'm new to DDM. But have played D&D for 13 years!
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 Bert the Troll Commander
 3964 Posts



 Adelaide
 | | 06/11/2007 6:45 PM |
| | I think it (and the other two missing epics) are in error on the preview and advertising material. | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7908 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 06/12/2007 8:00 AM |
| I'll be interested to see how this rolls out.
My guess? They purposefully gave the misinfo in the preview to churn up discussion
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 06/12/2007 3:14 PM |
| I too am really liking this set.   Looking better and better with each Preview / spoiler.  Although I'm still not happy with the CG love fest in this set.Â

| | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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 Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
 10152 Posts



 Edinboro PA
 | | 06/12/2007 4:56 PM |
| | I've seen it before but thanks for posting it here.Bring on the stats! | | | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6843 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 06/12/2007 5:35 PM |
| I think the advertising department has disappointed me with this set. They advertise miniatures in thi smanner "Various figures are drawn from key D&D titles, including the various Monster Manual supplements, as well the Eberron, Forgotten Realms, and Dragonlance campaign settings."
There are multiple miniatures from Eberron and the monster manuals and Forgotten Realms. There has been a dearth of Dragonlance minis since Dragoneye (I don't really count Mina since her promo was back in the early days, too). Then they announce Raistlin way ahead (good). Then then announce various miniatures from books including Dragonlance. And the set list comes out. And Raistlin is the ONLY Dragonlance mini. I don't even see why they advertized using Dragonlance as a source after they already announced that Raistlin was in the set. It was misleading and disappointing.
Advertising hasn't disappointed me entirely. They have on this issue, though. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Raland Sergeant
 924 Posts




 | | 06/13/2007 5:54 AM |
| | I'm with Corim on this one, had my heart set on more DL stuff... though I suppose they had to include it because of Raist. | | Champion of the Kender ckissee - "providing TPK's since 2007" Albert Einstein never once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left" but the theory is a scary prospect. | |
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Bring_it_On_DDM Sneak
 121 Posts



 Canada
 | | 06/13/2007 6:09 AM |
| | I won't be surprsied if WOTC only gives out one to two greyhawk minis per set. | | I'm new to DDM. But have played D&D for 13 years!
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Man of Renown Wraithborne Warlord
 5309 Posts



 The Red Light District
 | | 06/13/2007 6:21 PM |
| Posted By Bring_it_On_DDM on 06/13/2007 6:09 AM I won't be surprsied if WOTC only gives out one to two greyhawk minis per set.
I'd be shocked if they had that many. | | Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card -Jimgang So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away? So you can't read what's engraved, Is this Heaven or merely Decay? Was there a light, enchantingly bright, A Question, just how did it end? Just let me sift through your calm remains, And tear you away from your skin. -Sumerias Fain. | |
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Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6843 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 06/13/2007 7:46 PM |
| Posted By Bring_it_On_DDM on 06/13/2007 6:09 AM I won't be surprsied if WOTC only gives out one to two greyhawk minis per set. I can hardly consider the Greyhawk City Militia Sergeant a Greyhawk mini just because it has Greyhawk in the name. This is a vanilla (as far as campaign setting) miniature. This militia sergeant sculpt could be given a name from any campaign setting, and we wouldn't know the difference. Is there anything else in this set that looks like it's Greyhawk?
| | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Dordledum Commander
 3463 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 06/15/2007 1:47 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 06/09/2007 11:59 AM That`list has at least one confirmed error. The Brass Golem is rare, not uncommon. Who knows how many other typos there might be? Confirmed by who and where? Because I still believe it was uncommon when I saw one a few eeks ago.
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| | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and the Orog Fighter! | |
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iluvxtina Underboss
 1501 Posts



 Spain
 | | 06/15/2007 10:47 AM |
| | I cannot wait for raistlin majere! | | LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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