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bonelock
Underboss
1272 Posts
    
 | | 06/30/2007 5:01 PM |
| *drumroll* pretty bad I hate to say  . A step back in the quality we've seen in the last two sets. I played in a pre-release today and saw a majority of the figures. Sloppy jobs and goofy eyes all-round. The sculpts are good except for the mithral guard... aka 'roid dwarf. The brass golem was probably the best paint job which isn't saying much. Sorry to be the first to say it... | |
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Wolfgang
Warlord
6637 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/30/2007 7:02 PM |
| i thought rastlin was well done and the giant eagle was nice but man roid dwarf is UGLY!
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Underboss
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Wolfgang
Warlord
6637 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/30/2007 7:48 PM |
| | we never saw a gold dragon and only one white and your right it did look crappy (the white that is) | |
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Jere_RB
Skirmisher
35 Posts
| | 06/30/2007 9:15 PM |
| Agreed. It looks like they didn't thin the paint well enough on quite a few of the minis. A lot of the fine detail is just lost under so thick a coat (lifeleech otyugh, *all* the dragons*, etc).Â
Also, they need to learn to do stripes. The digester isn't too bad (only had 'em on the legs). The dire tiger, otoh...*shudder*.
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/30/2007 9:16 PM |
| | The Large Banana Dragon looked horrible in the preview (as far as paintjobs go). | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 06/30/2007 10:02 PM |
| | Just got my hands on two packs and the ones I got for the most part look better than what y'all are describing. I have to see them in sunlight before I make my final decissions, but I'm seeing no mistakes or bad coat jobs like in others and the brighter minis look pretty good so far (carrion crawler, golem). | |
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LCS
Underboss
1928 Posts
| | 06/30/2007 11:39 PM |
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Overall, the paint jobs I saw today were good enough to satisfy me.
The biggest issue seems to be a few minis like my Assassin and Halfling Tombseeker which have too much flesh colored paint on and around the faces, but I also saw others of the same mini that looked a lot better, so I don't think it's systematic. Several people mentioned that the eyes on many of the common and uncomon minis aren't painted as well as they have been in the past, but some of the uncommons are on the other end of the spectrum with lots of detail.
I don't mind a few minis that are below average in the paint department, if the quality of most of the other commons and uncommons stays as high as it has been on the majority of the minis from the last few sets.
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 06/30/2007 11:55 PM |
| | I hope it's just a few batches then and not an overall thing. | | | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 07/01/2007 4:11 AM |
| I didn't pull a Large Gold for my band (as a matter of fact, my pieces SUCKED). But, I did see a Large Gold Dragon.
And, I must say, I was disappointed. The Gold isn't very shiny, and the thing looks like it has no eyes. A friend of mine said it looked like Falcor. I wouldn't go that far.
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basic_aim
Sneak
172 Posts
London ON. Canada
| | 07/01/2007 5:12 AM |
| It seems it's the same every set before we have minis in hannds it's ohhhhhhhhhhs and ahhhhhhhhhhs but as soon as the pre lease or release happens it's this is wrong or that is wrong. Could the paints be better? ALWAYS no matter how good they get there's always room for improvement.
Impressions from what I've seen so far for the most part as good or better than the poster and some like the greenspawn Zealot look fricking amazing this opinion is based on my 10 boosters so far and the 5 cases I saw opened at the pre release.
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Guardian Naga
Large Gold Dragon
Mind Flayer Lich
Orc Banebreak Rider
They fixed the problem that War Drums created and have slowly been moving forward.
If the paint jobs are that bad and you feel that choked about it I guess maybe it might be time to switch to a different hobby where one has 100% QC on the paints something like oooohhhh I don't know ....
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Red Ranger
Sergeant
708 Posts
| | 07/01/2007 5:32 AM |
| | Overall I was happy with what I saw. THe LGD was more gold than it looked in the pics and the Large Shadow Dragon I thought was really cool looking (along with the Shadow). I like a lot of the brighter minis in the set. I do agree that the Dire Tiger's stripes could have been better, but so far as I recall this was really their first attempt at stripes, wasn't it? | |
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Wolfgang
Warlord
6637 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 07/01/2007 5:38 AM |
| | Over all i think they did a good job i was impressed with what i saw and hope they keep up the good work | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 07/01/2007 12:10 PM |
| | This set is a worse paint job than unhallowed?God,I dislike unhallowed paintjob a little bit so...I cannot imagine the paints in the NB.One thing is sure: It cannot be worse than wardrums. | |
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Thousandsofminis
Warrior
269 Posts
| | 07/01/2007 1:55 PM |
| From what I saw at the pre-release I was quite pleased. Yeah there are a few things here and there, but things like the Shadow Dragon and Noble Salamander just plain made my day. The Shadow Dragon was far better than I expected, and the Noble Salamander which I didn't like the look of in the preview, looked just plain impressive in person. So overall I was very pleased with what I have seen so far, and I think I saw all but 3 or 4 of the rares at this point.
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/01/2007 2:56 PM |
| Posted By Thousandsofminis on 07/01/2007 1:55 PM
the Noble Salamander which I didn't like the look of in the preview, looked just plain impressive in person.
That's good news. Noble Salamander and Dire Tiger are the two rares I'm most interested in from NB (for RPG). Good to hear that the Salamander is looking good  | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 07/01/2007 3:55 PM |
| The two bosters I got looked pretty decent.  I will agree, the uber-dwarf isn't good looking by any stretch of the imagination | |
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Sneak
168 Posts
Denmark
| | 07/01/2007 4:31 PM |
| Could anyone be persuaded to share pictures of their Night Below minis at some point? I always find amateur pictures to be the most informative regarding the quality of the minis...
Anyway, I'm glad to know that opinions are at least divided, and that everyone isn't disappointed. | |
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Pedro
Commander
3926 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 07/03/2007 7:56 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 07/01/2007 4:11 AM I didn't pull a Large Gold for my band (as a matter of fact, my pieces SUCKED). But, I did see a Large Gold Dragon. And, I must say, I was disappointed. The Gold isn't very shiny, and the thing looks like it has no eyes. A friend of mine said it looked like Falcor. I wouldn't go that far. Dave
I, too, was very disappointed. his face is all mashed up, no eyes, strange whiskers... Very bad. | |
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Sneak
168 Posts
Denmark
| | 07/06/2007 9:04 AM |
| I was so looking forward to this set, but I've been disheartened by various accounts and photographic evidence... I found this picture on flickr, which I hope the owner won't mind me linking to:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=689822363&size=o&context=set-72057594097409446
There are definitely some paintjob issues, but the SEAMS, oh my! The seams on the lifeleech otyugh and the dire tiger are VERY OBVIOUS, even in the official gallery (which tends to use the most flattering angle that a given mini has), but the above link shows that also the large gold dragon has some HIDEOUS SEAMS. The one along the spine and the one where the head meets the neck are both conspicuous to say the least, but the one on the tail is downright awful: it is so poorly integrated and fitted, and so exposed that it all but ruins the mini's appearance. After thirteen sets, something like this just isn't acceptable. I am very sad that the product line I care so much about can yield something this bad.
I will say, however, that Lady Vol seems to have some nice detail. Also, the dread wraith is simplistic, which works very well with the concept. Good job!
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Morg1411
Skirmisher
17 Posts
| | 07/06/2007 9:17 AM |
| The two boosters that I got looked fine. The Orc Banebreak, in particular, looks great. (But I agree on the big-headed dwarf of the mithral hall...looks like some kind of garden gnome on steroids). | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 07/06/2007 11:10 AM |
| | First case came today, they look pretty good overall. LGD dos look a bit off, but mines not too bad. One side is better than the other. | |
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
361 Posts
Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 07/06/2007 10:09 PM |
| | I found a family of refugees living in the seams of one of my miniatures | |
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
11113 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 07/06/2007 11:35 PM |
| Ouch, you can scare them away by offering them Wrackspawns.Posted By ScruffyRanger on 07/06/2007 10:09 PM I found a family of refugees living in the seams of one of my miniatures
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Michael
Warrior
256 Posts
Sydney, Australia
| | 07/06/2007 11:44 PM |
| 12 Boosters and only two of my wanted minis. I haven't seen one of the dragons, the Orc, Wulfgar or Raistlin. I got the Frost Giant and was very pleased with the paint job on him. Somebody wrote, that the cloak was black. I had more luck with mine.
Lady Vol and the riders look good as well.
Best paintjob from the minis I've seen goes to the Kuo-Toa Whip so far. | |
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ScruffyRanger
Sergeant
361 Posts
Central Coast AUSTRALIA
| | 07/06/2007 11:52 PM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 07/06/2007 11:35 PM
Ouch, you can scare them away by offering them Wrackspawns.
Dude, I'll try that 
I'm wondering, who was the genius who thought they should change the gold dragon's paint colour, re: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=689811983&size=l
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 07/07/2007 2:37 PM |
| Posted By ScruffyRanger on 07/06/2007 11:52 PM Posted By Cthulhufnord on 07/06/2007 11:35 PM
Ouch, you can scare them away by offering them Wrackspawns.
Dude, I'll try that I'm wondering, who was the genius who thought they should change the gold dragon's paint colour, re: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=689811983&size=l
I think they really look pretty good actually. Not the greatest, but I'll wait until I have them in my hand to judge for sure. | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 07/07/2007 2:43 PM |
| | It cannot be worse than wardrums | |
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Anaxagoras
Warrior
318 Posts
| | 07/07/2007 3:11 PM |
| | Gotta disagree...in general I was very pleased with this whole set-selection, sculpts, paintjobs....wonderful on a whole. | |
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
11113 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 07/07/2007 4:30 PM |
| | The four boosters I snagged turned out allright. All of my humanoids had pretty good paint jobs, no wandering eyes in the whole batch. I was realy impressed with the three Delvers I pulled, they looked pretty good for commons. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/07/2007 8:01 PM |
| So far so good in my opinion on the paint jobs in general. There are always a couple minor issues but that can be expected with mass production on this scale.
I am a little disappointed once again in the damaged cards in the box syndrome again.
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shazam01
Warrior
230 Posts
| | 07/07/2007 8:37 PM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 07/07/2007 8:01 PM
I am a little disappointed once again in the damaged cared in the box syndrome again.
What?
From the little I've seen so far I think that the minis look good, my Heirophant wasn't bad, and the paint on the uncommons looks particularly good. Although I haven't seen some of the most frequently complained about minis.
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vanrulzz
Commander
2778 Posts
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| | 07/07/2007 9:45 PM |
| | from those amatuer photos i have to say "VERY NICE" (but not for tiger) | | | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/07/2007 10:11 PM |
| | Form the one case, the only paint jobs I wasn't thrilled with was the dire tiger, mainly because the stripes didn't look too realistic, and the Guard of Mithril Hall (but enough has been said about that). Otherwise, I was really pleased with what I saw and so has everyone else I've shown the figs to. | |
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tirwin
Sergeant
462 Posts
North Dakota, USA
| | 07/08/2007 8:02 AM |
| | Of the one half case I opened I was pleasantly surprised, since much of the early reviews said the paint was poor I was expecting much worse. Of the nearly 50 minis I have thus far they look good, but I have two cases still on the way in the mail. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/08/2007 12:04 PM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 07/07/2007 8:01 PM
I am a little disappointed once again in the damaged cards in the box syndrome again.
Sorry about that. I must luck out becuase I've never had damaged cards. What do you term as damaged, I may just see it as "normal". and how often does it happen?
How many were damaged in your set? A couple of my boosters were smashed on the tp of my case, but I think that was a shipping issue more than anything else. Could it be the same?
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Zyla
Underboss
1201 Posts
| | 07/08/2007 2:14 PM |
| | The most i got in terms of card damage was a few minor dents, mostly due to large figures with pointy parts, such as the scarrow | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/08/2007 2:14 PM |
| Booster boxes intact. There was a Dire Tiger card that was crumpled and ripped a little as the worst case. Othewise the typical odd dinged edge or scratch.
Nothing I'm seriously worried about. | | | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/08/2007 5:49 PM |
| | That's the type of damage I usually ignore, so I do get some of this but not enough to care. | |
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 07/08/2007 6:53 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 07/08/2007 5:49 PM
That's the type of damage I usually ignore, so I do get some of this but not enough to care.
That's about where I'm at with the issue, although I can't speak to any damage to cards in this set, since I don't have any yet. Although my purple Hill Giant Barbarian card is pretty wonky... | |
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