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Jere_RB
Skirmisher
35 Posts
    
 | | 07/16/2007 10:49 AM |
| Just looking around, I found prices on these minis:
Large Black Dragon $29.00
Raistlin Epic $40.00 (an ending ebay bid)
I don't really see anything all that special about the LBD. Good skirmish stats, but nothing that would justify an almost $30.00 price tag.
As for the Epic Raistlin...the fig can be had for $10.00. How in hades can the extra cardboard cost $40.00?
If someone could explain this to me, I would appreciate it.
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 07/16/2007 11:16 AM |
| LBD is an excellent skirmish piece that works well in multiples - and - it's a much sought after RPG piece. Try to find someone willing to give one up, and you'll quickly see why they are so expensive.
Raistlin, I'm not sure, guess it's the fanboy appeal. I only have 2 because I collect a minimum of 2 anyways... skirmish he's decent, but you only need one, and RPG, how many could you possibly want? So must be the collectors that are pushing this market. | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 07/16/2007 12:28 PM |
| Someone help me understand this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=150140541878&rd=1&rd=1
$51 for a Hobgoblin Marshall?Â
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 07/16/2007 12:40 PM |
| | It was a promo Hobgob Marshall, but still...$51???? | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/16/2007 12:58 PM |
| Some people are crazy. 
The Dragon makes some sense. The rare combination of a good skirmish piece, a desirable RPG figure, and a collectable worthy mini. People want more than one.
As for the Raistlin Epic Card so far you can only get one if you happen to be by at a store for one of the Night Below release events. Down the line it'll be in a retailer kit and put on the web for download but some people just have to have it now I guess. | | | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 07/16/2007 1:32 PM |
| The Large Black Dragon's price is justified. It looks good, it's an awesome skirmish piece, and it's a core RPG mini. In fact, I'm surprised that it's not more expensive than the Beholder Lich - most price guides seem to have the B Lich as more expensive.
The epic Raistlin card, on the other hand, is way too much for $40 (and I'm a big Raistlin fan). Nuff said. | |
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BoloBaby
Sergeant
640 Posts
Fort Mill, SC
| | 07/16/2007 1:34 PM |
| I remember when I was selling some Magic cards on eBay. I had a signed foil Rack and Ruin. At the time, a non-signed foil Rack and Ruin went for about $3.
Bidding closed on my signed copy at $38. I was pretty stoked. Especially when you consider that the artist says on his website that he will gladly sign cards if you simply mail the card to him and provide return postage. Ha.
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Turboman
Warrior
212 Posts
| | 07/16/2007 1:56 PM |
| | Some people are just stupid. Wasting that huge $ on a brand new common mini is just plain stupid. | |
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Jere_RB
Skirmisher
35 Posts
| | 07/16/2007 2:27 PM |
| And to think, I thought I was getting shafted when I traded my strahd for the beholder lich and LBD...
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 07/16/2007 3:01 PM |
| | You can,t understand the LBD price?Ok,it is very easy: it is the best skirmish piece nowadays and everybody want to win the tournaments with them.You always need two or three and it is rare so,it has a big price.And about raistlin....well here he is not so expensive but,like the other legendary characters minis,every D&D fan want to have at least one | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6843 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 07/16/2007 3:20 PM |
| 30 dollars is very reasonable for the LBD.
40 dollars for an epic card is ridiculous. Epic cards aren't worth more than $5, IMO. | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 07/16/2007 3:51 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 07/16/2007 3:20 PM
30 dollars is very reasonable for the LBD.
40 dollars for an epic card is ridiculous. Epic cards aren't worth more than $5, IMO.
I agree, right after GenCon last year the epic Drizzt's were going for about $50 apiece on ebay (and I gave 2 extras away D'oh) the price didn't really go down until they released it in a retailer kit. Its the fan appeal even People who never skirmish and never intend to skirmish want a card with their favorite characters stats.
 At the Blood wars prerelease I had a kid offer me half his entire collection,moderatly large one going back to deathknell, for Drizzt and his epic card. I wasn't sure if he was serious and told him that Drizzt simply wasn't worth that much and I wouldn't feel right taking advantage of him like that. I told him the card would be in future retailer kits and he could hunt for Drizzts on Ebay for about 80 bucks or so if he really wanted one that bad. But the point is that a fanboy will pay exorbitant just to get something they feel they must have right now.
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 07/16/2007 11:15 PM |
| | The LBD price sounds right, the others....well people is crazy. | | | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5132 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 07/17/2007 1:24 AM |
| LBD for $29 is relatively cheap. Look at buy it now options (in the $35-45 range and selling out). Glad I snagged mine for $15 during prerelease prices.
Raistlin's Epic going for $40? Pure fanboydom.
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Raland
Sergeant
924 Posts
| | 07/17/2007 4:17 AM |
| Wow, that's crazy for the Epic Raistlin... especially since every store that had a release got 20 of them. Seeing how our stored didn't even get 20 people, many folks got extras. That and it will likely appear in a prize kit and for download. The dragon that seems reasonable, and will likely only grow higher. | |
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Pedro
Commander
3926 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 07/17/2007 5:21 AM |
| Posted By BoloBaby on 07/16/2007 1:34 PM
I remember when I was selling some Magic cards on eBay. I had a signed foil Rack and Ruin. At the time, a non-signed foil Rack and Ruin went for about $3.
Bidding closed on my signed copy at $38. I was pretty stoked. Especially when you consider that the artist says on his website that he will gladly sign cards if you simply mail the card to him and provide return postage. Ha.
LOL.
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You can get epic cards for 2-3 dollars...
I agree that the price on LBD might be reasonable, but it is still too much, I'd say. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7737 Posts
| | 07/17/2007 6:34 AM |
| | I bought my raistlin online for $20, it came with the NB dice. So basically I paid $40 for 2 dice and 2 cards - because there is only one place in all of Toronto that bothered to get the release kit - and I have a feeling that they may not sell them to me at all. I figure that $10/card and $10/dice was steep, but acceptable. Then again, I am a Raistlin fan. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/17/2007 11:49 AM |
| Posted By Raland on 07/17/2007 4:17 AM That and it will likely appear in a prize kit and for download.Â
If availabilty for download curtailed desire, there would be no more orphaned card threads. I don't get it (but there are things I value that others don't get), but there is something about the original card that makes people care more about it than one they can download.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10493 Posts
United States
| | 07/17/2007 3:55 PM |
| The epic Raistlin card is currently very hard to find. So, it's expensive.
I agree with the people who say they'd never pay that much for it. But, there are quite a few people who will. Hence the price.
Pretty simple really. A thing is expensive if there are buyers willing to compete with one another to set the selling price.
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joedj
Skirmisher
35 Posts
olympia
| | 07/17/2007 7:59 PM |
| Raistlin - collectors/fans mainly, plus the Epic has quite a few more fun 'bells and whistles'!
Large Black Dragon - great looks, mid-range skirmish cost, excellent skirmish abilities. I think the competitive skirmish players drive the market. Rarity = steep price. NOTE: I predict the Large Shadow Dragon will make a run on the LBD's skirmish reign. Swift jumps to the LBD's face or to their rear-guard commander will force the LBDs to be less roaming... | | | |
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mickey mouse
Warrior
237 Posts
Victoria, Canada
| | 07/18/2007 2:45 AM |
| | Yes the Large Black Dragon rocks, and I do have 5 (five), wooooooot !! | | | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/18/2007 11:08 AM |
| | People like dragons. Even if they don't skirmish, or play the game, some want any dragon they can get their hands on. As I said before with Raistlin, any time you hit the collectors as well as the other two groups, the price on auctions are going to go up. | |
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dj-chuckles
Underboss
2455 Posts
The State that invented Spam!
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 07/18/2007 5:57 PM |
| The LBkD for $30 is as has been stated reasonable. The current average seems to be in the mid 20's but it is a great skirmish piece that is used in multiple and a popular RPG figure. In RPG it finishes the first complete dragon family tree as we now have black dragons in all available sizes; unless they start as tiny but I think most of us can forgive missing that size.
Paying $40 for a card and a die is just a bit crazy. I almost wonder if someone is spending other peoples money (maybe without their consent) when they do things like that. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 07/18/2007 6:50 PM |
| The Large Black should be had pretty easily for about $20.
Raistlin for that much is insanity with figure AND card. His price will drop like a rock when the smoke clears. | |
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MuscledDestroyer
Sergeant
435 Posts
Prospect Park, Pa
| | 07/18/2007 7:36 PM |
| | I can see LBD going for 20.00 or 25.00 not $40.00. I dont like the twisted neck thing. I can see it going high because its a rare tier 1 piece that you need multiples of. I can clearly see people going nuts over Raistlin. I'm not a Dragonlance fan but alot of people are and I would be surprised if alot of packs get sold to non skirmishers just to get him. His story is a D&D classic. | |
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Frederyck
Sneak
139 Posts
Uppsala, Sweden
| | 07/19/2007 12:06 AM |
| | Two Dread Guard Game Master Reward GMR1 repaints went for about $102 and $120 respectively a few weeks ago. There is always money in rare collectibles, even in a such a relatively limited fandom such as D&D minis... | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
12507 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 07/19/2007 12:08 AM |
| | And that is about the going rate for teh GMR1 Dread Guard. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/19/2007 5:20 AM |
| | *whew* My wallet is very happy that I'm not such a completest that I need every promo and repaint. | |
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mege
Sneak
67 Posts
| | 07/19/2007 9:59 AM |
| Posted By Gunthar on 07/18/2007 6:50 PM
The Large Black should be had pretty easily for about $20.
Raistlin for that much is insanity with figure AND card. His price will drop like a rock when the smoke clears. wtb as many LBDs as you have for $20 please pm me
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 07/19/2007 10:37 AM |
| Yeah, fan favorites or skirmish multiple pieces are always going to be higher. Look at Drizzt...
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rtcmc
Sneak
146 Posts
Eugene, OR
| | 07/19/2007 11:08 AM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 07/19/2007 5:20 AM *whew* My wallet is very happy that I'm not such a completest that I need every promo and repaint. 
Yeah, I'm crazy about getting the GMRs and D&DC, and can't imagine how much it would be if I wanted all the promos too. My GMR1 set me back a bit, though thankfully not $100. It was the only one I didn't get via judge points.
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 07/19/2007 3:00 PM |
| | I love this trait in others, though. It means any one I get for judging or from cons is bonus trade stock. | |
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Weder
Skirmisher
28 Posts
| | 07/19/2007 3:54 PM |
| Epic card for $40,00, is it kidding?
Uhaahahahahaa, only stuppids pays this price! | | | |
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Frederyck
Sneak
139 Posts
Uppsala, Sweden
| | 07/20/2007 9:56 AM |
| Posted By rtcmc on 07/19/2007 11:08 AM
Yeah, I'm crazy about getting the GMRs and D&DC, and can't imagine how much it would be if I wanted all the promos too. My GMR1 set me back a bit, though thankfully not $100. It was the only one I didn't get via judge points.
I am one of the suckers that want all of them: promos, basic set prints, repaints, RPGA rewards etc... I haven't gotten GMR1 yet, but I'm guessing I'll be a hot contender the next time one pops up for trade or sale. | |
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Dagaron
Sneak
146 Posts
Indiana, USA
| | 07/20/2007 12:21 PM |
| Greyhaze, are you rexx344 on eBay? If so send me a PM when you get the Epics/Dice I always get nervous when shipping to Canada because it always seems to take so long. Â I can see why the LBD are at that price, and am glad I snagged 3 early. As for the Epic Card.. I don't know same thing that happened with the Drizzt Epic. Â Posted By Frederyck on 07/20/2007 9:56 AM
I am one of the suckers that want all of them: promos, basic set prints, repaints, RPGA rewards etc... I haven't gotten GMR1 yet, but I'm guessing I'll be a hot contender the next time one pops up for trade or sale.
I'm not positive, but I think Sharn Inquisitor has 2 that he's selling for $80 each over at the Wizards trading boards.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7908 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 07/20/2007 10:49 PM |
| I don't look forward to trading for my LBD's...
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Wraithborne
Warlord
5309 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 07/21/2007 11:50 AM |
| | As far as raistlin goes, a fanboy and his cash are soon parted. | |
Eye dun no why youse guys think im not relly a person im jimgang from canada but im moving to cali as soon as i get a master card
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vanrulzz
Commander
2778 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 07/21/2007 11:59 AM |
| | people are crazy on ebay. period. on a side note i havean epic raistlin for trade. | | | |
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vanrulzz
Commander
2778 Posts
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| | 07/21/2007 11:59 AM |
| Posted By Weder on 07/19/2007 3:54 PM
Epic card for $40,00, is it kidding?
Uhaahahahahaa, only stuppids pays this price!
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