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08/16/2007 6:28 PM  
Thanks to Yams on WoTC board.

Wonder if it will have a soon to be useless stat card.



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08/16/2007 6:32 PM  
OK...he does look super cool...But Orcus is a large demon...Whats this gargantuan thing?

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08/16/2007 6:32 PM  
Wow cool... wish we could see the face more... thanks for sharing.

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08/16/2007 6:35 PM  
Hmmm...Awesome....will make a nice finishing touch to my D&D collection.
I'll take a couple.....really should be fat instead of a 6 pack though.

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08/16/2007 6:44 PM  
That...is...HAWT!!!!!

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08/16/2007 7:05 PM  
That makes my sphincter itch

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08/16/2007 7:26 PM  
It looks impressive in sculpt and paint. But I'm not the very least interested in a Gargantuan Orcus. I bought the Gargantuan Black and the Collossal Red after a while
when they were cheaper for 15 (black) and 20 (red) Euros, but I'm not sure, if I'd do the same with Orcus.

I have a feeling as if Orcus was just made since the dragons will change in there look compared for the 4.0 edition (if you saw the picture of the next starter set and
the large green, you know what I mean).

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08/16/2007 8:28 PM  
Very cool looking. Can't say I'd ever have use for it as a DM.
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08/16/2007 8:37 PM  
Well, it looks nice for what it is. But I am not in the least interested in getting it. My groups don't do demons/devils. Or if they do, it is a rare quasit here or imp there. Almost never.

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Posted By yack on 08/16/2007 6:32 PM
Wow cool... wish we could see the face more... thanks for sharing.

A few images I got from CMGRealms.com

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08/16/2007 10:27 PM  
nice pictures, I like it a lot!



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08/16/2007 10:49 PM  
Why...

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08/16/2007 11:43 PM  
I miss the original orcus, the potbellied redneck demon... Then there's the factor that he isn't gargantuan either in any sourcebook that I can recall.. I'd use it as a very powerful balor.

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08/17/2007 1:24 AM  
I am getting one for the collection.

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08/17/2007 1:34 AM  
It's cool that they're making an Icon that isn't a dragon, but I don't think that I'd ever actually use it in a game. I might buy it anyway though.

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08/17/2007 2:14 AM  
WOO FREAKIN' HOO!

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08/17/2007 2:40 AM  
Wonderful, must-have miniature. But how probable this will be a production mini?

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08/17/2007 2:41 AM  
Posted By Corim Danex on 08/16/2007 8:37 PM
Well, it looks nice for what it is. But I am not in the least interested in getting it. My groups don't do demons/devils. Or if they do, it is a rare quasit here or imp there. Almost never.

Wow... Remind me never to join your groups!  For me, demons and devils are just as central to the world as dragons are. Maybe even more so. They represent evil as a force, as something concrete. They embody the very thing that the pcs in most campaigns fight against.

As for Orcus - he looks cool, I must say. But I am also wondering if he has soon-to-be useless stats on his cards, or if they'll have 4th edition stats reflecting his new size?

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08/17/2007 2:53 AM  
really cool
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08/17/2007 5:04 AM  
Posted By Count Dooku on 08/16/2007 6:32 PM
OK...he does look super cool...But Orcus is a large demon...Whats this gargantuan thing?
Maybe in 4E he's gargantuan...


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08/17/2007 5:32 AM  
ill take my large orcus as he takes up less room. wish it been a more generic demon.

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08/17/2007 5:51 AM  
I think Icons will come into its own when WotC finally knuckle down and use the line to make something with broader RPG appeal.

Massive dragons are OK, but their movement rate is too large for them to be very useful on a playmat or a scale map on a sheet of paper (unless your sheet is the size of a state highway). They've been produced essentially to look 'cool' sitting on a shelf (in my opinion) - and there are cheaper and better looking products out there that perform that function. Massive Icons are too expensive to buy and then not use (or not use terribly often).

Making creatures that are just the wrong size (again, inconsistency with their own product) is plain silly. This is just another icon that I won't be buying - not because of its look (which is fine), but because of its lack of usefulness.

Now, if they brough out a non-random pack of huge demons, huge dragons, huge aberrations, or aquatic creatures, or villagers, then I'd be interested...

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08/17/2007 8:44 AM  
Hmm why Orcus. Like everyone here has said I don't remember him ever even being huge. If they had done it for one of the other demon lords that was listed as gargantuan or colossal then fine (I would have literally soiled myself with excitement if they had done Dagon) or even a huge sized demon lord that could pull it of. In my personal opinion Demogorgon would have been great for this check out this cover and you'll see what I mean , Wayne Reynolds at his finest http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/TSR/TSRDUN150_500.jpeg.
This is not to say that I don't like the model its just to say that they where other better choices in my opinion. I must saying looking at it it is nice and I will probably get one for sheer viewing pleasure alone. Definatly puts shame to the old 'Aspect of Orcus'.

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08/17/2007 8:48 AM  
mmmmmm it's ok

i will never use it

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08/17/2007 8:52 AM  
Awesome.
and to all the "he's supposed to be Large" folks...
Relax, unclench a little.

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08/17/2007 9:06 AM  
Why complain that Orcus is gargantuan when he's never been statted out at that size before?  Come on people the guys a Demon Prince, essentially a Diety!  Why can't he be any size he wants to be?!  If it were an Aspect of Orcus, then I'd be concerned about his size, but it seems that they're presenting this figure as Orcus himself.  Size matters not.  He could be Tiny for all I care, as a player I'm still going to run from him.

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08/17/2007 9:30 AM  


Wonder if it will have a soon to be useless stat card.



Bet on it!
The other Icons (except Drizzy fo Shizzy) gonna be useless too!

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08/17/2007 9:39 AM  
Posted By Cheddar Bearer on 08/17/2007 8:44 AM
Hmm why Orcus. Like everyone here has said I don't remember him ever even being huge. If they had done it for one of the other demon lords that was listed as gargantuan or colossal then fine (I would have literally soiled myself with excitement if they had done Dagon) or even a huge sized demon lord that could pull it of. In my personal opinion Demogorgon would have been great for this check out this cover and you'll see what I mean , Wayne Reynolds at his finest http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/TSR/TSRDUN150_500.jpeg.
This is not to say that I don't like the model its just to say that they where other better choices in my opinion. I must saying looking at it it is nice and I will probably get one for sheer viewing pleasure alone. Definatly puts shame to the old 'Aspect of Orcus'.


Dagon would have been awesome!

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08/17/2007 9:42 AM  
Posted By TheChuck on 08/17/2007 9:06 AM
Why complain that Orcus is gargantuan when he's never been statted out at that size before?  Come on people the guys a Demon Prince, essentially a Diety!  Why can't he be any size he wants to be?!  If it were an Aspect of Orcus, then I'd be concerned about his size, but it seems that they're presenting this figure as Orcus himself.  Size matters not.  He could be Tiny for all I care, as a player I'm still going to run from him.


Only reason why Orcus was always so big was because he was so fat! He made the Fat Bastard look malnourished and starved...

Orcus was never bigger than huge, even from 1st edition... 1976!

Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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08/17/2007 10:05 AM  
Well when Orcus was known as Tenabrous and killed a 2nd time, his god-corpse that floated in the Astral plane was way bigger than gargantuan. It was miles long.

I don't think there's really an exact size for a god. Also, the form that a god takes is his own choosing most of the time. Maybe Orcus lost weight when he was resurrected



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08/17/2007 10:28 AM  
Speaking of Orcus, it looks like he's on the front cover of the 4e Monster Manual. I wonder if that book is going to have deities in it.


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08/17/2007 11:58 AM  
I wonder if that book is going to have deities in it.


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08/18/2007 10:23 AM  
Nice-looking. Still not buying.

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08/18/2007 11:55 AM  
I might get Orcus. I haven't decided. If a gargantuan Demogorgon was offered, that I would get for sure.

I have collected one collosal red dragon, two gargantuan blues, two gargantuan blacks, and I already ordered the gargantuan white dragon. I would definitely get two gargantuan greens if WOTC put such for sale.


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08/18/2007 11:56 AM  
Yeah, the price point on this guy will be a factor in if I get him or not.
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08/18/2007 2:46 PM  
It was put on Amazon as a mistake and will not be available for sale anytime in the forseeable future.
A shame too, as I would've bought a couple at least.

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08/19/2007 12:14 PM  
Incredibly cool miniature.But The price will be too for sure

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08/19/2007 4:30 PM  
Going by the gencon gossip, Orus isnt meant for sale

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08/19/2007 6:35 PM  
Yep the minis seminar comfirmed it. The price point is so high the marketing department says they cannot sell enough to meet costs so it has been put on hold indefinitly. They tell us any and all Amazon preorders are going to be cancelled.

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08/19/2007 6:41 PM  
Too Bad its the only new fig that I have seen since the talk of 4e that i like.

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