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08/31/2007 6:21 PM  
Posted By iluvxtina on 08/31/2007 12:27 PM
And what about the hydra? I have been waiting for it since giants legend was released.It is a typical monster very cool looking and not impossible to beat for the Main player characters in a RPG campaing.I hope new 4 ed will crete it (and make a decent skirmish piece if possible)

Well, they did say there was a huge set coming out. If they could an Aspect of Tiamat, this is not out of the realm of possibility.


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09/01/2007 3:58 PM  
I wonder if all basic slaads will see the light before 4e. Gray is the only left one.

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09/02/2007 12:51 PM  
If you really need a grey slaad, gray render (Underdark) makes a correct proxy IMO.

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09/04/2007 8:40 AM  
I could defintely go for a Grey slaad in the next set or two... Maybe I can finally play a fully colored "Tossed slaad" warband

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09/04/2007 8:01 PM  

Considering we have a Death Slaad and the descriptions of Gray and death slaadi are exactly the same, I don't see the point other than getting a new gray/death slaad at some point (allong with an Uncommon red and Blue first).

The death slaad even specifically calls this out in the combat text.  End of first paragraph after the verbatim description:  "They look exactly like a gray slaadi."


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05/30/2008 8:16 PM  

Basilisk, Gorgon, Cyclops made the cut.

The only creature from the salamander/xorn/arrowhawk/tojanida symetry that made it was the salamander - in several flavors - all large.


Oddly Cockatrice isn't in the 4e MM but it looks like it's in AtG anyway.


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05/30/2008 9:36 PM  
The cockatrice I have listed in my page, will have to be replaced as you're right the cockatrice didn't make the cut. This may sound odd, but it might be a hellhound... of course, it's about medium size and looks like it has yellow feathery wings, but who knows, it could be another Harpy. It's odd, cause it just doesn't look like anything from the 4e MM.


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05/30/2008 10:37 PM  

Given Medusa, Basilisk, Bodak, and Gorgon made it - I think it is a cockatrice.  No rules rationale not to include it.

 

Chain Golem isn't in 4e MM1 but we have good information it is in the set.


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05/30/2008 10:55 PM  
I'm more concerned about the lack of Rust Monsters from the 4e MM1.

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05/31/2008 6:59 AM  
Posted By JodyJ on 05/30/2008 10:37 PM
Chain Golem isn't in 4e MM1 but we have good information it is in the set.
Excellent point, I'll leave it as-is until otherwise proven wrong.



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05/31/2008 8:17 AM  
Quite a lot of the monsters in future and recent sets aren't in the 4e MM: gnaw demon, chain golem, shadow demon, spectral magelord (unless it's a very specialized ghost), shade knight (pretty sure this isn't a sub-member of another monster type), and the giant centipede.

My best guess is that while the bulk of new minis will support recent 4e rpg books, there will always be "new" monsters to encourage rpg-only players to buy the set so that they can get rpg stats for the monsters.

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05/31/2008 9:14 AM  

Looking at last year's sets and even what we know of this year's sets, it seems to me that WotC is going with a mix of a few older (3.x and earlier), mostly new (4e), and a couple completely new (future creatures).

Unhallowed 22 creatures 3.x but not 4e (so far)

Night Below 23 creatures 3.x but not 4e (so far)

DoD1 2 creatures 3.x but not 4e (so far)

DoD2 1 creature 3.x but not 4e (so far), 2 completely new

AtG is not known enough for numbers but it looks like 2 are 3.5 but not 4e yet.


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05/31/2008 6:56 PM  
I imagine some minis get made that will be in future supplements or MM's...

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06/06/2008 5:56 AM  
Posted By jacksonm on 08/25/2007 5:06 AM
The Cockatrice is too much of a classic D&D monster not to be included in the new edition, even if they haven't done a mini of it yet. I want that mini though.

Given the rampant slaughter of scared cows, I wouldn't bet on any creature, no matter how classic, making the 4e cut.

I know I'll probably never see the creature I'm championing, classic monster or not.

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06/07/2008 2:37 PM  

Well I got my 4th ed. MOnstre Manual and sad to say

Cockatrice, Rust Monsters, Will O wisps Blink Dogs did not make it in.

That's a whole lot of creatures that coincidentally don't have minis yet either-

interestingly enough for it being MM1 alot of creatures that DO have minis

seem to have made it in that I did not expect- Krithicks, Shadar Kai, Rage Drakes etc.



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06/10/2008 10:38 PM  
Posted By snafu on 06/07/2008 2:37 PM

interestingly enough for it being MM1 alot of creatures that DO have minis

seem to have made it in that I did not expect- Krithicks, Shadar Kai, Rage Drakes etc.




I was surprised to see the venerable Fell Drake sneak in under an assumed name.

I do wish they could have gotten DoD2 or AtG to at least go with 100% 4th Edition Monsters.   

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06/11/2008 5:59 AM  
Yeh, at LEAST 100%... *rolls eyes*


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06/11/2008 6:18 AM  
I wish WotC would post the 4E MM1 gallery so we could have a peak of what's coming down the pipe.

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06/11/2008 9:10 AM  

Boooooooo!  No Blink Dog?!?!  Boooooooooo!!!!

 

The least they could have done was make a mini before booting the pup to the curb.  Sigh,  I get farther and farther from feeling the love.  I haven't even finished the last two sets, and now I'm not even excited about seeing future sets.Â

But, hey, at least we've got another metal dog robot hunk of junk.Â

Again, I say, Booooooooooo!


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06/11/2008 8:11 PM  
Posted By greyhaze on 06/11/2008 5:59 AM
Yeh, at LEAST 100%... *rolls eyes*


Sorry I meant to say:

I do wish they could have at least made either DoD2 or AtG 100% 4th Edition Monsters.   

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06/12/2008 6:53 AM  
Sorry, I still don't agree. (But, thank you for clarifying)


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